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View Poll Results: Will Brock/Taker III be a gimmick match?
Yes, probably HELL in a CELL 9 45.00%
Yes, Casket Match 2 10.00%
Yes, Buried Alive Match 2 10.00%
Biker Taker returns for "Biker's Chain match" 2 10.00%
No 4 20.00%
Yes, Texas DEATH Match 3 15.00%
Yes, Texas Strap Match 0 0%
Yes, TLC match 0 0%
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Old 08-28-2015, 07:13 PM   #1
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But if all Taker wanted was another Mania match, why cost him the title at Battleground? Taker costing Lesnar the title match was a heel move to begin with. Taker using low blows are heel tactics. Taker tapping behind the refs back is a heel move. Its a heel move to say I wont fight you right here right now. Holding off till Mania is a heel move.

From a kayfabe perspective, it gets Lesnar pissed off and emotionally invested in wanting to destroy Taker (as opposed to Taker randomly calling out Lesnar via satellite sometime in January/February 2016, with Lesnar smiling and saying, "I already kicked your ass, I got nothing to prove to you buddy! "


As far as Taker challenging Brock at Mania goes, I'm not sure how the WWE will play it out. Maybe this coming Monday on RAW, Undertaker challenges Lesnar to Mania' and states himself that, "if I can't beat you at Mania', I will retire" (both Taker and Lesnar are in the ring). Heyman gets Lesnar to shake Taker's hand to agree to it. They do. Immediately after however, Lesnar "low blows" Taker (revenge for low-blow) and beats the living shit out of Taker. [perhaps this comes across as heelish to the fans, so that the fans don't interpret Undertaker being a clear cut heel heading into Mania].


The WWE suspends Lesnar as result of his actions until February.



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Plus I dont see what is gained from Brock going 2-1 against Taker. If Brock went 2-0 against Taker, sure I see a point in that. But to go 1-1 in their last two fights does Brock no good. And there's no continued winning ways. He hasn't won a big match since Royal Rumble 2015. Assuming he doesn't have another big fight till Survivor Series or Rumble, thats close to a year.
I think the WWE respects Taker to the point where they didn't want him to have zero victories against Brock. Taker looks like a bitch if he never get one official victory over Brock, while losing his streak and career to Brock. By getting one victory, it atleast makes Taker looks like he's a guy that has heart and backs down from no one even if he's a little old and passed his prime now.


As far as Brock goes, I don't think the fans really care that Brock hasn't won since RR 2015. He still has that presence and respect amongst the fans. Lesnar absolutely dominated both Reigns and Rollins in their matches, and kayfabe wise, the fans know that he only lost due to unforeseen circumstances. Lesnar is still credible as fuck.


However - if Lesnar was in the main-event of Wrestlemania this year and lost CLEANLY, then yes, he would lose some credibility. On the flip side, if you have Lesnar destroy Reigns or Rollins for the title at Mania', then it hurts the development of Reigns/Rollins as future credible "franchise guys" for the WWE. That's why I like the idea of keeping Lesnar away from Reigns/Rollins until 2017. During 2016, you can have Lesnar get more dominating victories over other wrestlers, while on the other side, building up Reigns and/or Rollins as credible #1 guys in the company.


If Lesnar ends Taker's career at Mania however, it further adds to Brock's credibility and accomplishments.


That's how I see it.


And yes - I know Taker has done some heelish/cowardly things against Lesnar thus far, but I just can't see people in his own home state booing Taker.....especially if there's a built in implication/stipulation that it will be Taker's last match.


The WWE loves their poignant moments and if they can re-create HBK-Flair or Taker-HBK, via Lesnar-Taker, then I think they'll do it (along with giving Taker a Flair-esque send off on RAW the next night).
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Old 08-27-2015, 08:16 PM   #2
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I was all for the Brock/Taker SummerSlam match. It makes total sense for Taker to look for revenge against Lesnar. Well, if not "revenge" then certainly "retribution." He's the big dog and Brock taking the streak challenges that.

I wasn't a fan of the shenanigans at SummerSlam. I would have preferred Brock got the clean win and asserted himself as the dominant guy in WWE. Where you run into problems with this is that you have nothing keeping Brock from the WWE Title. They booked themselves into a corner with it. The best solution I could come up with was Brock beating Taker, and actually selling a bit of respect for him (remember that Brock does not respect anyone). Then you could have had a new Wyatt Family consisting of Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper and either Roman Reigns or Dean Ambrose (depending on which one you want to turn heel) laying out both guys to set them up as the dominant heel force moving forward.

Now, I know many would not like that idea -- but the Brock is pissed so he is not going to be around thing makes him look like a bit of a diva. And I don't really feel the need to see Brock vs. Taker again, because I feel that Brock got the streak (arguably the biggest win you can get), and that Taker got to prove that this could still be his yard. I'm not really feeling the tension that these two have something real to fight over.

As I type this, I feel that maybe having the World Title involved would help things. But I think I'd rather just skip the whole match together and just have Taker lock up with someone else that could get a rub from being in a program with him, whilst Brock fights someone fresh and interesting that has long legs ahead of him so you could kind of buy them putting The Beast down. But that's just me and my subjective opinion.

I think the book should be closed on Brock vs. Taker. I think we're going into a fourth act here after a false climax.
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Old 08-27-2015, 09:08 PM   #3
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wtf why didn't I make Tuxedo Match an option?
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:17 PM   #4
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wtf why didn't I make Tuxedo Match an option?
Or Michelle McCool-on-a-pole match? It could happen.
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:02 PM   #5
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Put Taker with Cena. Taker's Last Match.
Brock against a Returning Daniel Bryan.

Brock vs Taker at SS should have been it. I realize the way the ending was booked there kinda has to be another match, I just hope it isn't at Mania. Maybe Rumble?
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:26 PM   #6
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Why are we assuming WWE has to explain why Taker disappears the next six months? Since when have they addressed why Taker disappears for a year, or maintained heat continuously on matches booked a year in advance (re: Cena vs The Rock)?

They'll just pretend we're too dumb to question the lack of logic.
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Old 08-28-2015, 08:20 AM   #7
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Why are we assuming WWE has to explain why Taker disappears the next six months? Since when have they addressed why Taker disappears for a year, or maintained heat continuously on matches booked a year in advance (re: Cena vs The Rock)?

They'll just pretend we're too dumb to question the lack of logic.
With Taker I always looked at it like he's done everything, he's just there to defend the streak at Mania. So that's why he only showed up once a year.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:01 AM   #8
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Poignant moments at the end of a "10 stars outvof 5" kind of match are great.
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Inter-gender Tag Team Match

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Aww. I love seeing pictures of parents and their grown children. It's great The Undertaker spends time with his daughter and Brock Lesnar spends time with his mother.
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