What's so great about Booker T?

[el fregadero]

He's black.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by el fregadero He's black.

Shelton Benjamin's awesome.

[CBright7831]

Booker T

The Resume
(March 1, 1965- )
Wrestles for WWE/WCW
Birth name was Booker Huffman
WCW U.S. Champion
WWE Tag Team Champion
WWE Intercontinental Champion
Joined the WWE (then WWF) in June 2001

Why he might be annoying:
As a teen he to beat up people.
He was arrested.
His finishing move is called the spin-a-rooni.
He still break dances (the '80s are over).
He did poorly on the Weakest Link.
He has tattoos.
He use to wear a gold tooth.

Why he might not be annoying
He really loves kids.
When he quits wrestling he wants to be a motivation speaker for kids.

http://amiannoying.com/(wblgmzihbr4ccc45zqz11r45)/view.aspx?ID=3274

[Marc the Smark]

Before Kane Knight tells the whole world, I just sent him a private message. I wrote, "Fine. I did not explain myself well. Let it die." And I'll stick by that. I was not able to explain my point, and it's probably too late to try. He'll never be one of the greatest (whether anyone said that or not), and he'll never be better than average. That's my opinion of him. So whatever.

[Stickman]

I liked BT at one time. When he was in Harlem Heat he was great. Maybe his first World Title reign. Other than that I agree with Scott. I thought he was alright until I bought a PPV that was in Vancouver (thankfully I didn't buy tickets to it). The pay per view sucked big time and then the main event came, it was between Booker T and Jeff Jarrett for the title. It must of been one of the worst matches ever. They played an angle where his knee hurt so all 20 minutes of the match JJ worked on the leg. It was boring as hell. Since then, even while in WCW, I haven't been a huge fan of him.

Now, Scott keeps talking about hime being slightly above average. I think the best person to compare him to is Edge.

That's all i have to say now.

[Nowhere Man]

Originally Posted by Stickman I liked BT at one time. When he was in Harlem Heat he was great. Maybe his first World Title reign. Other than that I agree with Scott. I thought he was alright until I bought a PPV that was in Vancouver (thankfully I didn't buy tickets to it). The pay per view sucked big time and then the main event came, it was between Booker T and Jeff Jarrett for the title. It must of been one of the worst matches ever. They played an angle where his knee hurt so all 20 minutes of the match JJ worked on the leg. It was boring as hell. Since then, even while in WCW, I haven't been a huge fan of him.

Oh, come on, you can't blame that on Booker. Jarrett's work has always been utter shit, no matter who he's paired against.

[diamondcutter]

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man Oh, come on, you can't blame that on Booker. Jarrett's work has always been utter shit, no matter who he's paired against.

I find that odd, seeing is that alot of people still rave about their match at Bash at the Beach 2000---or maybe that was because they didn't have alot of time to go over the match.

As far as what's so great about Booker, I agree with those who say it's mostly a matter of poor storylines and injuries in his WWE career. I've always seen Booker T. as a black Chris Benoit---as in I like him mostly for his wrestling than his promos. He needs to change two things, though:

1. Stop using the spin-a-roonie after hitting a couple of big moves. It makes his character look stupid, as he could be going for the pin. He needs to go back to using it as a "kip-up" type move after an axe kick, or flapjack. Also, the spin-a-roonie was funny by the name alone back in WCW when Mark Madden used to say it, but Booker never even acknowledged it.

2. Get a new finisher. This might be the more difficult of the two changes, but the axe kick doesn't cut it as a finisher, IMO. No Bookend, either, since whether or not The Rock decides to be full-time, fans will always think of that move as the Rock Bottom. The Houston Hangover would be good to go back to, but I heard he actually hurt someone with that when he tried it in WWE.

[John la Rock]

Originally Posted by diamondcutter 1. Stop using the spin-a-roonie after hitting a couple of big moves. It makes his character look stupid, as he could be going for the pin. He needs to go back to using it as a "kip-up" type move after an axe kick, or flapjack. Also, the spin-a-roonie was funny by the name alone back in WCW when Mark Madden used to say it, but Booker never even acknowledged it. 2. Get a new finisher. This might be the more difficult of the two changes, but the axe kick doesn't cut it as a finisher, IMO. No Bookend, either, since whether or not The Rock decides to be full-time, fans will always think of that move as the Rock Bottom. The Houston Hangover would be good to go back to, but I heard he actually hurt someone with that when he tried it in WWE.

The WWE told him to stop using the Spin-A-Rooinie because it generated too much of a face reaction from the crowd. They want him to tease the Rooine and then not do it so the fans can boo him

I also agree that he needs a new finisher. The Axe Kick is crap, The Bookend is a cheap ripoff of The Rock Bottom, Houston Hangover would be good but it should only be used on special occasions (Wrestlemania). I remember in WCW he used a Missle Drop Kick (before he started to immitate The Rock) and it looked pretty sick

[Wondermouse]

I think the best person to compare him to is Edge.

And Edge is a tag champ on Raw with the World champ, and looks as though he could be headlining a PPV any time now. And this is on RAW, who has Benoit, Trips, HBK, Jericho, Kane, Christian, and Orton.

Booker's on Smackdown. Who do they have? Eddie, Rey, RVD, Cena? And he's jobbing to UT, who could lose his next 100 matches and not lose any heat at all.

Eddie/Booker would be a helluva match. Not MOTY quality, but a hell of a match.

Tell me - who on smackdown, in the Midcard-Main Event status, is more deserving of him than a world title shot?

JBL, and his inability to wrestle? Cena, who panders to the crowd and puts on the same vanilla match every night?

[Nowhere Man]

The only real problem I see with Booker T is that he's a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none. His mic work is decent, but pales in comparison to the better promo men out there (a la Rock, Jericho, Foley, Raven, Benoit ) His ring work is solid (superb back in his day), but nowhere near the level of your Benoits or Guerreros or Jerichos. His psychology is great, but when did that ever matter in WWE?

Most importantly, though, his character has gone to the shitter. People bought it when he was the underdog challenger going into Wrestlemania (I still think it's bullshit that Triple H got away with cutting a blatantly racist promo, then getting a clean pin), and he got massive pops when he was knocking around with Goldust, but what's he done recently? Whined and moped about being on Smackdown. Gotten murdered by the Undertaker in a lame "voodoo" angle. Lost his push to fucking BRADSHAW, of all people. All the while not really having any sort of direction. I just don't think Booker works very well as a heel.

I can see why a lot of people don't like him: he's got all aspects of wrestling covered solid, but doesn't really stick out in particular. Kinda sad, since the guy's a good overall worker.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Wondermouse Tell me - who on smackdown, in the Midcard-Main Event status, is more deserving of him than a world title shot? JBL, and his inability to wrestle? Cena, who panders to the crowd and puts on the same vanilla match every night?

R V D

[OssMan]

[Wondermouse]

Booker's matches usually depend on who he's working with. That is, he's very easily carried, but incapable of being paired with a stiff.

[John la Rock]

The only matches I liked him in were his matches with Chris Benoit in the Best of 7 Series and his match against HHH at Wrestlemania XIX was good (not including the worst ending to a match I've ever seen)

[Batsu]

I like The Bookend. I'm actually surprised they allowed Booker to keep it considering WWE's asinine "no two wrestlers with the same finisher" policy. Though, I think that should be a secondary finisher behind his familiar Axe Kick.

I dunno what else Booker could use for a finisher that WWE would allow, however.

[Wondermouse]

Wouldn't mind RVD if he updates his offense a little and gets a good heel turn.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Wondermouse Wouldn't mind RVD if he updates his offense a little and gets a good heel turn.

Yeah, he needs to do something move-wise to remind people that he's more bad-ass now (or should be)
Even doing the Van Daminator after the match on every opponent that he beats would be cool.
Aside from the moves, it's all ATTITUDE!

[Wildcat789]

Scott,

The problem with your statement about Booker T, is that you compared him to (quite possibly)some of the GREATEST of all time. At that standpoint, sure he's gonna look like shyte. Every wrestler would in that opinion.

How about we compare him to other guys on his position on the card?
Comparitively to these people-
JBL
RVD
Rey Rey
and any other high-midcard positioned wrestlers I forgot...

He looks like a wrestling GOD! Why your standpoint makes little sense is because any wrestler looks bad when compared to people who were practically legends in the game. Even EDDIE looks sub par compared to Rocky or even Austin, but we all know he isn't.

Don't bash the Bookman, he's given us some of the best stuff in the last few years, except for WMXIX. I say it's a great thing he's on Smackdown. He'll draw for the brand soon enough, and if they were to take the belt off Eddie and give it to the next most credible guy on SD, it would definately go to Booker.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Wildcat789 Scott, The problem with your statement about Booker T, is that you compared him to (quite possibly)some of the GREATEST of all time. At that standpoint, sure he's gonna look like shyte. Every wrestler would in that opinion. How about we compare him to other guys on his position on the card? Comparitively to these people- JBL RVD Rey Rey and any other high-midcard positioned wrestlers I forgot... He looks like a wrestling GOD! Why your standpoint makes little sense is because any wrestler looks bad when compared to people who were practically legends in the game. Even EDDIE looks sub par compared to Rocky or even Austin, but we all know he isn't. Don't bash the Bookman, he's given us some of the best stuff in the last few years, except for WMXIX. I say it's a great thing he's on Smackdown. He'll draw for the brand soon enough, and if they were to take the belt off Eddie and give it to the next most credible guy on SD, it would definately go to Booker.

indeed. You rock.

I think he funny as Hell i wish Golddust was still with wwe they were a great tag team unlike him and RVD because RVD is better as a single then as a tag team partner

[Gone Mad]

Booker T honestly became "great" over time. He started like a couple of main eventers start: in a successful tag-team. He seemed to be the better of the two so he was noticed more. And over time, he got to main-event many WCW shows because as the fans noticed,he was good. But of course, if you compare him to some of the WWE main guys, he will be seen as average. But in any case, he is a great athelete and at times, becomes a likable character with the only fault is his mic skills and the injuries that slowed him abit. That and his now limited move set.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Is it the Spin-a-roonie? His average charisma? His average mic skills? That's all he is. Average. Yeah, he was a 5 Time Champion in the WCW. Didn't David Arquette win the title there too? Didn't Scott Steiner? So what's the big deal? What's so great about Booker T?

The post that started it all.

Note he didn't say anything about him being the next Rock/Angle, he didn't complain about how he was stacked against the best, he just talked about how average Booker is.

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott He has a catch-phrase, so people assume he's a master on the mic. But when it comes to mic skills, he couldn't hold his own with someone like The Rock, or Austin, or Chris Jericho, or even Triple H. He's out of his element in that field.

Next, he goes into how he's not the Rock or Austin.

Well, he still hasn't brought up how people are claiming that Booker is the next Rocky.

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott No, I'm saying Booker T and The Rock (or Austin, Jericho, or Triple H) aren't even in the same league. I'm saying Booker T isn't as good as those guys, and never will be, and trying to figure out why people think he is.

22 posts.

It takes 22 posts for him to get even close to what he claims he's trying to say. Now, this is the first indication that people might think Booker's the next Rock. On the other hand, since he's made no solid indication that it's even been said by anyone before, it's really hard to draw his conclusions.

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott People are saying he's above average ("above par"). I'm saying he's not.

A statement he's evidently trying to distance himself from. You know, since every time people bring up this sort of thing, he goes back to his other statement...

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott People have said he could be the man in the company. I'm saying he can't. And I've tried to explain my reasoning. No, he isn't The Rock. So he's not one of the greatest, but Booker's still not as good as people think he is. How is that hard to understand?

David Copperfield couldn't have pulled this argument out of thin air so seemlessly.

How hard is it to understand? The fact that it wasn't part of your argument until the 32nd post might be a part of that, retard.

Don't blame other people if you cannot successfully explain yourself in your first dozen tries. You're suddenly making a case that simply wasn't your case before, and getting pissed because people don't "get" a point you haven't explained until after the post you'r getting so moody over. I dunno. The moral of this story is that, no matter what my posts in this thread look like, I was arguing that Aliens exist and are operating from a secret base on the moon to control our minds...And if you didn't get thatfrom my statements about Booker T not needing to be the rock to be good, you're obviously a morn.

[Kane Knight]

Before I tell the whole world?



God, you really are such a retard.

You started attacking people because they didn't get a point you didn't even illustrate! Now you want to let it die...Oh, poor baby...

So the question is: If this is all about your immutable opinion, why did you ask what was so great about him? Surely, it wasn't rhetorical, because contextually you left absolutely nothing to indicate such.

Why ask for an opinion when you're too latched into your own mindset to even understand where everyone else is coming from? Especially with this illusory Ëveryone claims tha booker is the next rock!" argument.

[Corkscrewed]

Basically, Booker was awesome in WCW. Even you agree. He's not been as impressive now because of both injuries but more importantly, a lack of a good push. If they don't let him put on a good character, how can he be?

Greatest ever? Of course not. Pretty darn good? You betcha.

[Aussie Skier]

Kane Knight


WTF! people, Chill! Christ, this isn't a sledging match.
Sounds like a game of cricket here now (of course, u ppl prolly dont know about sledging in cricket)

[LK]

Basically Booker T could be huge right now. He wasone of th emost popular performers on Raw at a time and if booked right he could have become the most popular superstar in the WWE. But a certain someone *coughcoughHHHcoughcough* recognised how big Booker could have become and squashed him at Wrestlemania following a feud which was based on people like Booker not winning anything. Therefore Booker was made to look weak and hasn't gotten back anywhere near the main event scene.

Originally Posted by Aussie_Skier Kane Knight WTF! people, Chill! Christ, this isn't a sledging match. Sounds like a game of cricket here now (of course, u ppl prolly dont know about sledging in cricket)

If you think this is bad, check out the casual forums. It's war out there. And KK here is recognised as one chewing up people and spitting them out. Live with it.

[Goldbird]

Originally Posted by c4g2 ^ If you think this is bad, check out the casual forums. It's war out there. And KK here is recognised as one chewing up people and spitting them out. Live with it.

He chews them, but he doesnt spit it out. He isnt that kind.

[Aussie Skier]

hehehe....if only he could put this to good use, rather than on a wrestling forum