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Old 05-30-2004, 06:12 PM   #41
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:13 PM   #42
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:13 PM   #43
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Terrell Davis should not be in the hall of fame.
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Old 05-31-2004, 02:28 AM   #45
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Personally I don't think so too, but its kind of the same situation as this.
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It's not even fucking close. Terrell Davis put up numbers for four years. Griffey put up numbers for 10.

And after he retired, Denver produced three more running backs with huge numbers, so it's hard to even say how much of that was Davis and how much was the system.

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Old 05-31-2004, 02:47 AM   #47
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I don't know if that is supposed to be flaming me? But this same topic was in here a few months ago, but change Ken Griffey Jr. with Terrell Davis. I was just saying that compared to Davis, Griffey is a shoe in. And I do know that baseball is harder to get in than football, I was just saying...
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I wasn't flaming you.

But those two cases aren't even remotely comparable. You can't seriously say that you look at a guy with four great seasons and make a sensible comparison with a guy who was arguably the best player in his sport for nearly a decade.
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Old 05-31-2004, 03:25 AM   #49
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The reason I said this was that people on TPWW were talking about it, and I was saying that if you're going to even consider Davis, then Griffey would be a shoe-in.
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Old 06-01-2004, 05:59 PM   #50
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If Griffey Jr. gets in the Hall of Fame, then Don Mattingly should get in too. He too was a great player (probably the best of the mid to late 80's), and was hit with the injury bug (bad back). If not for injuries to both players, they would be shoe-in's for the Hall.
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Old 06-01-2004, 08:00 PM   #51
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I don't know stats or anything off my head, but I would assume that Griffey was much more dominant and for a longer time, otherwise Mattingly would already be in this discussion.
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Well, mattingly was a 6 time all star, 6 years straight. 9 Gold Gloves. AL MVP in '85?Runner up the year after

He was in the top 3 for batting average from 84-86, then dropped but still was in the top 10 the two years after. Had an above 300 career batting average, averaged 80 RBI's a year, and this is all taken into consideration his injuries.
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Old 06-01-2004, 09:09 PM   #53
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Grifeey in the HOF... tough call, I don't care much about now winning a WS... But, can you say for a 5year period he "dominated"... cause his career has been hurt by injuries... Koufax was one of the best for a short time.

That being said, if he stays around and turns it up again... then he's a lock.
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Old 06-01-2004, 09:27 PM   #54
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It's going to take a miracle to get Mattingly into the Hall of Fame. Now believe me, I want Mattingly in there more then anyone else. He was my idol growing up and the one sports persona I looked up to. Mattinlgy was the heart and soul of the Yankees when I was a kid. He had some tremendous years in the mid 80's hitting as high as .352 In 1986. He hi higher then .310 FOR FIVE YEARS straight. But, his injuries killed all the momentum he had and his numbers just don't have enough juice on them to put him in the HOF. His 9 GG and six straight AS appearences will not put him through. He only played for 14 seasons and his numbers considerably dropped after the 80's. You definately can make a case that he was the greatest player in the mid 80's, but he had a rough 90's. He has over 2000 hits and a .307 career average which are good numbers. But Mattingly also never won a championship and played on some horrible Yankee teams. It's a tough call with Mattingly also, but I think with the way his votes have dropped off these past few years, he has a slim chance.

BTW: DID YOU KNOW that Mattingly holds the record for most Gran Slams in a single season with 6
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Old 06-01-2004, 09:30 PM   #55
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Yeah I was a pretty big Mattingly fan, even though I still had a hatred for the Yankees even back then.
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:33 PM   #57
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BTW, if there was anybody you can make a case for that belongs in the HOF, it's Carl Mays. I mean go to baseball reference and look at his stats and tell me those aren't HOF #'s. I mean he killed a guy and all, but he threw a curve and Champman didn't move. Not really his fault. I think because of that he never got his chance in Cooperstown.
 
 
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