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Old 02-20-2019, 01:17 AM   #1
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Not as random as him being the "objection" to Teddy Long's wedding.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:24 AM   #2
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Not as random as him being the "objection" to Teddy Long's wedding.
lol he also objected to Billy and Chuck's wedding

he needs to interrupt every wrestling wedding
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:19 AM   #3
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WWE HOF gets ready to Suck It (aka The Godfather Appreciation Thread)
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Lol, heel Godfather. Memories of Metal or whatever the fuck that was stuck on.
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Only thing I really remember about it was him wearing all black and using his cane to win matches.
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He was one of the most over acts of his era
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really scrapping the bottom of the barrel now, Torrie Wilson does not deserve to be in the fame neither does this bloke, how many gimmicks can one have and still not get over

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He was one of the more over acts from 87-91
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What did he accomplish in this time ?

I am sorry I must missing something he never stood out for me
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What did he accomplish in this time ?

I am sorry I must missing something he never stood out for me
He was one of the most over acts in the company from 87 till 91. That's what he accomplished.
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He was one of the most over acts in the company from 87 till 91. That's what he accomplished.
It's easy to shit on the guy because of how over-the-top wrestlecrap he was in WCW. But what Gertman is saying is the truth. He headlined Summerslam, was the guy who ended Mr. Perfect's unbeaten streak, and was on his way to an IC Title reign (when it meant something) until his face got smashed.

Beyond those random highlights, he was also a tag champ on a classic team with Greg Valentine, had a cool gimmick with awesome gear.

And 87-91 was a hot period for the WWF. For him to be one of the hottest acts means something. To ignore that means you're not as "with it" as you think.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:31 PM   #13
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On Charles Wright...

I recently herd Bischoff say that they were going to sign Wright to a big money deal and he would've been the NWO's head of security, but they ended up getting in touch with Virgil who agreed to a much smaller deal so they went with him. I gotta say that if Charles Wright would have gone to WCW and been an NWO member that he could have possibly had a "bigger run" in a bigger spot. Even though Godfather was on ever WWF show for like 4 years, he could've been great in the NWO.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:39 PM   #14
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I thought Brutus was really cool when I was a kid. It took me like a full year to realize that he couldn't do shit in the ring though. Like, I just kept waiting for it. I'd rented or bought like every wrestling VHS in my county and was left feeling like "he must have some real classics out there somewhere!". I loved how he'd cut the hair of the jobbers after the match. And his tights reminded me of HBK who I was watching real time and was obsessed with.

I think by the time I saw WM9 I was like okay fuck that guy.
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He was horrible in WCW as The Booty Man and The Zodiac, my god. The Disciple had me excited because he looked awesome but yeah, once the bell rang...
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Lol I had no idea until years later that The Disciple was Brutus
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Brutus was one of those weird 80's gimmicks that was over even if he didn't win a lot. Back then though it didn't really matter.

In the 80s there were 3 levels of babyfaces.

Popular gimmick guys, who didn't really win but against jobbers but could sell merch, like Brutus or Koko.
Then there was a few guys who were gimmicks but also really good, who were there to get guys ready for Hogan, like Jake Roberts or Tito Santana.
Then there was Hogan.
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Brutus was one of those weird 80's gimmicks that was over even if he didn't win a lot. Back then though it didn't really matter.

In the 80s there were 3 levels of babyfaces.

Popular gimmick guys, who didn't really win but against jobbers but could sell merch, like Brutus or Koko.
Then there was a few guys who were gimmicks but also really good, who were there to get guys ready for Hogan, like Jake Roberts or Tito Santana.
Then there was Hogan.
He won loads lol
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He won loads lol
He never won big matches. He won against jobbers and balding guys who would get their haircut like Ron Bass . The only title he ever won was a tag title, which was before he was even "the barber".
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The only title he ever won was a tag title, which was before he was even "the barber".
By today’s standards when there’s 20 titles that change hands on a weekly basis and everyone gets a turn, never holding a title might mean you’re a jobber. In the 80’s, not so much,
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Brutus won ALOT more than he lost. He's not in the Koko realm of JTTS.
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Brutus main evented PPVs with Hogan. Not to mention ending Perfect’s undefeated streak at WM and being a legit IC title contender. He’s nowhere near comparable to Koko as a jobber.
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Brutus main evented PPVs with Hogan. Not to mention ending Perfect’s undefeated streak at WM and being a legit IC title contender. He’s nowhere near comparable to Koko as a jobber.
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He ended Mr.Perfect's Win streak. He was an upper mid card guy. He also beat HTM at WM4. He hardly ever lost once he became the Barber.

Just taking a quick glance and he was beating Rick Rude and Ted DiBiase around the loop in 89
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yeah I don't remember him losing as the Barber tbh
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He also won in the main event of a SummerSlam with Hogan against Savage and Zeus. I’d call that a big match.

You can say he was just along for the ride with Hogan but teaming with Hogan in a main event in the 80’s isn’t exactly indicative of a jobber.
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I just went back and checked : between 1987 and 1990 Brutus was only pinned once in any of the Big 4 PPVs (Rumble, SummerSlam, Survivor Series and Wrestlemania).

It happened at the 87 Survivor Series against HTM in a SS match.

Total jobber.
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Chill guys. Where did I ever say he was a jobber? All I said was he deserved to be in the Hall of Fame because in the 80's you could be a huge star without ever winning big feuds or titles, because it was all setup to build heels to feed to Hogan. Hence, the only title he won was a tag title before he became the barber, meaning the dude didn't need to win titles, he was super over regardless.

I put Brutus in the tier below Jake Roberts, I never said anybody not as good as Jake Roberts is a jobber. The only time I even used the word was saying Brutus beat jobbers because he wasn't cutting the hair of most other superstars.

I was defending him as a HOFer because he was a known star.

And yes, he was bigger than Koko, I'm not saying they are the same, they are just in the same tier for how they were used on the card. That is not saying it was a bad thing.
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Brutus Beefcake main-evented Summerslam, beat Mr. Perfect, Rick Rude, and Ted DiBiase. Koko literally never won matches unless it was against a jobber.

It's ok to admit you were wrong, hoss.
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Brutus Beefcake main-evented Summerslam, beat Mr. Perfect, Rick Rude, and Ted DiBiase. Koko literally never won matches unless it was against a jobber.

It's ok to admit you were wrong, hoss.
It's also ok to admit you misread what I wrote, and I never called the dude a jobber or that he wasn't worthy of the Hall of fame.
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It's also ok to admit you misread what I wrote, and I never called the dude a jobber or that he wasn't worthy of the Hall of fame.
You likened him to KoKo B. Ware who was a prelim guy. He was also at Jake's level if not above it. The only feud I can remember Snake winning was against Martel lol. I guess he beat Hercules who was pretty much just a jobber.

Accept that you've lost and move on, fiend.
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You likened him to KoKo B. Ware who was a prelim guy. He was also at Jake's level if not above it. The only feud I can remember Snake winning was against Martel lol. I guess he beat Hercules who was pretty much just a jobber.

Accept that you've lost and move on, fiend.
Jake Roberts beat Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania...
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Jake Roberts beat Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania...
It was a non-finish if anything. He got his shit stomped and John Studd saved him IIRC. Not exactly a DDT in the middle of the ring.
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But you were comparing him to Koko who was literally a JTTS. Brutus was at Jake Roberts level.
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But you were comparing him to Koko who was literally a JTTS. Brutus was at Jake Roberts level.
Brutus was an over gimmick but not a great worker, like Koko.
Jake was an over gimmick and a great worker, like Tito.

That was the comparison.
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I wouldn't put him above Jake. I'd put him with Jake.
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Also, getting guys ready to feed to Hogan meant losing to those guys. It didn't mean they were bad, it meant they were trusted to make the heels look as strong as possible for Hulk.
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Also, getting guys ready to feed to Hogan meant losing to those guys. It didn't mean they were bad, it meant they were trusted to make the heels look as strong as possible for Hulk.
That was more of a Hillbilly Jim/Hacksaw Duggan kinda role. Brutus wasn't getting fed to the Hogan monsters. He was protected big time because he was Hogans buddy
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Brother Bruti was a tag team champion. Even though he was the lesser of the Dream Team he was champion.

Over like rover.

Koko was over in Mempho and everywhere he went. JTTS at the end of his career in the WWF but he had higggggggggggh eneeeeeergggyy and Frankie. Yeahhhhh!

Both are worthy of WWE Hall of Fame because it's just what Vince says and goes.

Torrie Wilson is the new bottom for the Hall of Fame in terms of quality.
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