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Old 06-13-2021, 10:09 PM   #41
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Love a good monster champion. Kross doesnt do a lot, but he doesnt need to do a lot.
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Old 06-13-2021, 10:23 PM   #42
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Fun main. Kross generally bores me and is the main reason I’ve not watched NXT much lately but they weren’t taking the belt off of him unless Vince was ready to bring him to Raw and fuck him up in short order.
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Old 06-13-2021, 10:24 PM   #43
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Regal teasing stepping down as GM. Not the first time he’s done that, we’ll see.
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Will watch later but scrolling thru comments -- always see people say they think Grimes will be a star and I haven't seen much of him in-ring but his look will hurt him. Vince likes people to be either super in-shape or super fat and Grimes is sort in between those two things, visually, so that could hurt him and he'd be probably be safest in NXT versus RAW or SD.
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Knew Knight was going to win the moment I saw his trunks
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So I decided to watch the NXT press conference, and I swear Grimes called Raquel Gonzalez "Big Tits". Her face afterwards, she wasnt even sure what he said. Laughing my ass off right now.
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Fun show even without knowing any of the storylines. Main event was chaos and I loved it.
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Will watch later but scrolling thru comments -- always see people say they think Grimes will be a star and I haven't seen much of him in-ring but his look will hurt him. Vince likes people to be either super in-shape or super fat and Grimes is sort in between those two things, visually, so that could hurt him and he'd be probably be safest in NXT versus RAW or SD.
Part of the thing with Grimes is his hairy, dumpy look always actually *worked* for him as opposed to ROH era Kevin Steen who looked like a random fan hopped the guardrail. In short; it was the same thing, but Grimes looks categorically less like a generic everyman than Owens. However, the meta issue of the GameStonks gave him a much needed gimmick for WWE's sake, which makes that look kinda unneccessary. We'll see if he gets the "Kassius Ohno treatment" in time.
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Xia got a nice bod
She stood out to me from day one, as she's built like a legit ass kicker.
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Eli Drake is in nxt huh? I remember Noid hating that guy. Has he been any good there?
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Cuts a shouty, arrogant promo; average in the ring so far. He and Grimes have cut some good promos together though.
He's talented, but he still reeks of "Knockoff Rock" with his promo tone and inflection and insistence in shoving in a bunch of catchprhases. Take a shot everytime he says the following: lemmie talk to ya, undeniable kevorka, perpetual motion machine, dummy, yeah!, do you know why?, It's LA Knight's game, and him saying his name while he does the pointing thing (plus a couple of others that I've probably missed). Seriously, you could write all those things on index cards and make nearly every Eli Drake promo ever madlibs style.

If he knocks that shit off, he might have a chance... but then he fell into the patented WWE Random Name Generator and got this generic shit that's actually worse than what he used. Made funnier that his gear like his jacket still has the stylized "ED" all on it. LA Knight sounds like when you have to create a character to start playing a game, but you're in a hurry and just want to start playing, so you put together some bullshit from stuff you've seen around the room like in Usual Suspects.
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Watching highlights...

Adam Cole looks like he stopped going to the gym and now has like the same body as me... not good...
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:29 AM   #53
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Reed/MSK vs. Legado del Fantasma was pretty good. I think Escobar is one of the best going right now. Definitely understand Reed having the belt, but Escobar could carry any of the belts in NXT convincingly.

Still don't care about any of this Xia Li stuff.

This Million Dollar ladder match REALLY needs Nikolai Volkoff, the 123 Kid, and Tatanka in the Corporation to put over the In Your House-ness of this.

Good ladder match, some really intense spots. Thought Grimes was winning for sure though. I'm impressed how over he is. Also, how great would Drip King Santos Escobar look with the Million Dollar championship?

Raquel / Ember seemed like a filler defense to me, basically a squash.

Five way match was lots of fun. Felt like none of the challengers were going to take it off Kross this soon though.
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Old 06-14-2021, 09:23 AM   #54
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grimes is over? there were like 75 people in that place. he's a pretty shit face, if that even what he is right now.
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Old 06-14-2021, 10:16 AM   #55
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Looks like Samoa Joe is replacing Regal
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Given that the context was that there was so much bedlam backstage, maybe Joe is coming in as Regal's self-appointed "enforcer" or something.

Whatever he's doing I have to imagine he'll be wrestling before long. He's gone on about how much he wants to get back into the ring and with his release he had plenty of places he could've wrestled. Can't imagine he'd have re-signed with the E unless they promised him he could resume his in-ring career.
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I don't get Kross' appeal or presentation.
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For some fans, we like rage monsters who actually look like they can beat the shit out of other people. Yes it is a throwback to yesteryear, but it still works.
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Gave this a watch.

Wasn't crazy about either women's match. Boa guy at ringside is cute tho.

Main-Event was that same Bucks/Omega overbooked style I am not a fan of. I do like Kross though, great look for a heel.

Bronson Reed is good. Beth Phoenix is still horrendous on commentary. Todd Pettingill parts were annoying. Six-Man tag was probably the best thing on the show for me. Couldn't get into the ladder match bc I felt like both guys would go nowhere on the main roster and would have totally different gimmicks than they do now so it was hard for me to invest in it.
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Gave this a watch.

Wasn't crazy about either women's match. Boa guy at ringside is cute tho.

Main-Event was that same Bucks/Omega overbooked style I am not a fan of. I do like Kross though, great look for a heel.

Bronson Reed is good. Beth Phoenix is still horrendous on commentary. Todd Pettingill parts were annoying. Six-Man tag was probably the best thing on the show for me. Couldn't get into the ladder match bc I felt like both guys would go nowhere on the main roster and would have totally different gimmicks than they do now so it was hard for me to invest in it.
Its still odd to me that Renee Young got so much backlash for commentary but Beth gets a pass. I guess Beth's earned respect as a wrestler bought her more goodwill, but I always thought Renee was significantly better and got an undeserved critique.
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Renee was significantly better than Beth and I actually enjoyed Renee's commentary in NXT when she did it with (IIRC) Tom Phillips.
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The ladder match dis-invest isn't anything the two guys in it did wrong for me, they both did fine. I've just got burned too many times investing in wrestlers in NXT and then watching RAW/SD abandon whatever made those wrestlers interesting and for some reason both those guys ticked that box for me, IDK why.


It'd probably be amazing if we could just ship the Bucks/Omega/Adam Cole/Gargano/O'Reilly off into their own fed far away from both NXT and AEW.
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He's not particularly endearing nor does he leave a lasting impression.
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NXT commentary team is one of the main reasons I can't watch it anymore

Vic Joseph is unbearable... his voice fucks up my head... and just says "OOOH!!!" after every single move... like 6,000 times per show... can't handle it

And Beth Phoenix is even worse than him
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Old 06-15-2021, 12:00 AM   #67
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Lemme talk to ya...

I've said this before with Ryback, and I'll say it with Eli Drake/LA Knight. If you're gonna rip someone off, rip off someone who actually made money in this business. Dude has a charisma to him and a look. That's pretty much 4/5s of what you need to be a star in this business. And there is absolutely no reason a guy who looks like Knight should be putting over a guy who looks like Steampunk Jimmy Garvin. Which is unfair... to Jimmy Garvin. Garvin at least was in shape and had a cool presentation to him when he was with Precious. One of them is a fun character that the IWC will like and be mad when he doesn't move beyond his station. LA Knight is the kind of guy the IWC will hate but will be having matches with named talent.

As for Karrion Kross. I say let him have his moment now. But there is a reason why I say that any picture of him with Scarlett features "The biggest star in NXT, alongside the NXT Champion."
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The ladder match dis-invest isn't anything the two guys in it did wrong for me, they both did fine. I've just got burned too many times investing in wrestlers in NXT and then watching RAW/SD abandon whatever made those wrestlers interesting and for some reason both those guys ticked that box for me, IDK why.


It'd probably be amazing if we could just ship the Bucks/Omega/Adam Cole/Gargano/O'Reilly off into their own fed far away from both NXT and AEW.
Can we send Ciampa, PAC, Aleister Black, Ricochet and Will Ospreay to this new fed too?
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Call it the FOWA (Fuck-Off Wrestling Association)?
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Ricochet/Ospreay/Black are all good wrestlers too
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Kross doesn't come off as a "killer" or anything else at all.


I member actually watching the last NXT event where he fought Balor. I think it ended after a forearm to the back of the neck or something?




weak.
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Yeah I never bought into the hype with Kross. Decent wrestler but that's about it.

All about Scarlett though.
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At times, he was struggling to keep up with the other wrestlers in the main event.
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