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Old 12-08-2021, 10:18 PM   #1
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Maybe I'm just being shitty but after all the layoffs and they'll allow these new bloods to use the facilities. sounds suspicious
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Old 12-08-2021, 10:50 PM   #2
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I am trying to see the down-side.

The Kids get training in both wrestling and the media side of things, should neither work out.

The WWE gets folks who are coachable, have personality, and lack the bad habits many indy folks have.

If even one of these folks go into WWE and are successful, this is a big win. And, just on looks alone, they have about 4 or 5 of this class who will be success.
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Old 12-08-2021, 10:54 PM   #3
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and they can still try and grab guys like dante martin or whoever else fits that young and super talented mold and wwe thinks can be coached in their system.
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Old 12-09-2021, 09:39 AM   #4
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Not sure what this changes really..
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Old 12-09-2021, 01:56 PM   #5
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What changes is you could have a large influx of people who don't give a shit about wrestling and never wanted to be a wrestler, but are doing it for the money and to get on tv. Possibly to get closer to doing something they actually want to do like television or movies. A whole locker room of sables, in other words. Sure you have the occasional genetic freak like lesnar or Goldberg who are successful despite their lack of interest growing up. But I'd wager most people who enter professional wrestling purely for monetary reasons don't end up lasting very long. See: the entire diva era.

And that's not to say making money shouldn't be a motivation. Making bank has always been very very important in wrestling. But I believe the best wrestlers of all time have that ambition and hunger to be stars and make the big money, while simultaneously having a deep rooted appreciation for the wrestling itself.

All that said, from purely a business perspective, WWE is probably too big at this point for these negatives to hurt them. The product may suffer more, in the eyes of the fans, but wwe has already made it clear that they're fine with that as long as their investors are happy. And I'm sure wwe having more control over how their wrestlers are shaped and molded makes those investors very happy.
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Old 12-09-2021, 02:08 PM   #6
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I just don’t agree that appreciation isn’t found in the coachable athletes that come from other sports, and that it does lead to a lockerroom of Divas. That’s more if you give the wrestlers’ girlfriends jobs. A lot of the younger athletes have way better habits and can pick up what makes wrestling work — therefore appreciating it.

Ernie Ladd picked up wrestling for the money outside football. Historically, it has been VERY good to wrestling.

It also allows the right kinds of athletes to be influencing wrestling itself, which makes wrestling more appealing to those sorts of athletes. It can change the culture. And the WWE offering this sort of opportunity is good for their PR and helps embed them more as a possibility for athletes who get through college but don’t necessarily see a way to transfer their wrestling or other sporting prowess into a career. Who knows? In a few decades maybe the actual goal will be to go and play college football, if the NFL calls, cool, but if your knee hurts a bit, just go to the WWE and be a wrestler.
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Old 12-09-2021, 05:13 PM   #7
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I just mean.. they could of (and did) grabbed those people before. They still can (and will) grab independent wrestlers. I guess it’s a change on the business side but changes nothing for the fans. Still the same bullshit no?
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Even the most hardcore fans will be seeing less familiar names debut
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Old 12-10-2021, 01:10 AM   #9
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Yeah of course.
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So less interesting in the short term and hoping to build in the long term. I just have no trust in them building any sort of star regardless. I hope they do. I’d love a reason to watch WWE again.
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Look, I get it. I absolutely get it. Right now the business needs more Drew McIntyres and fewer Kenny Omegas. And it's possible that some of the people they recruit will genuinely fall in love with what they're doing. But what what they'll be doing is WWE's idea of what wrestling should be. And given their track record, I can't help but feel this will lead to the product becoming even more homogenized than it is now.
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Look, I get it. I absolutely get it. Right now the business needs more Drew McIntyres and fewer Kenny Omegas. And it's possible that some of the people they recruit will genuinely fall in love with what they're doing. But what what they'll be doing is WWE's idea of what wrestling should be. And given their track record, I can't help but feel this will lead to the product becoming even more homogenized than it is now.
I don’t have a big disagreement with you or anything. I’m just choosing to see the net benefits, haha. I don’t think it’s going to lead to what you think it will, because I think the talent signed are probably going to be good enough to put themselves into what they do. The smart ones are probably going to learn on the side too, talk to veterans, etc. They’ll hopefully realize that standing out, at a certain point, is good.

I do wish they would open their training philosophy though. Tom Prichard in Knoxville, Al Snow in OVW, Lance Storm in Canada, The Samoans on the West Coast, Harley Race’s school, etc. Diversification is not a bad thing. They’re the right prospects to do it with though.
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