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Old 02-21-2022, 08:45 PM   #41
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Storm was very good in ECW and deserves a ton of praise for getting himself over in WCW 2000.

Also it’s very funny that he started the Invasion angle
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That match he had with Booker T on Nitro was excellent
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I’m going to go and watch Booker T vs. Lance Storm, I think.
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In honor of Stone Cold's posdible return, I watched his last match. Wrestlemania 19 vs The Rock.

Considering what all came out after the fact, Austin being in the hospital the night before, that it was going to close the show before that happened, and the way it incorporated their previous bouts, even though Austin lost, this is probably my 2nd favorite match of his (1st being the 13 match Supreme brought up, which funny enough Austin also lost).

If the Bret match was a 10/10, I think it is fair to rate his Mania 19 match as a 9.75/10.
Ok I’ve watched this. It is good. Better than I remember. Or maybe I just appreciate it more knowing that Austin was in the hospital the day before and it’s his last match. Hollywood Rock is the best Rock and I will hear nothing of it.

The crowd seems a little subdued at the start. They really heat up at the end with all the finisher spamming. It’s probably the 3rd best match on the card and the 2nd best of their Wrestlemania trilogy.

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I was on WWE Network looking for weird shit and found Sean Michaels AWA debut against Buddhakhan!



I no nothing of Buddhakhan, but Shawn Michaels was as raw as it gets. Constant slapping of wrists and thighs like he's trying to communicate. Shawn basically slaps wrists the entire match. It's a pretty bad match. I looked for it...
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2:59 in Michaels did a Super Kick. It was called as a Super Kick.
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Austin vs Bret: Survivor Series 96

This match does not get enough love. Totally overshadowed by WM13 but what a fantastic match. Love everything about it, especially the end

5/5. One of my favourite matches ever.
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This match does not get enough love. Totally overshadowed by WM13 but what a fantastic match. Love everything about it, especially the end

5/5. One of my favourite matches ever.
Being at MSG really adds to it.
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Love Austin vs. Bret from Survivor Series. I love the whole story. JR is so into the story of these two wrestling machines trying to submit each other, which plays into the finish so well. Perfect for the story.
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Every now and then I remember World Wrestling All-Stars existed. The whole thing feels like a fever dream. I’ve never seen much of it, even though a lot of it happened in my backyard. I’m watching The Inception now. Thoughts to come.
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Some Australian girl group is kicking off with the Australian National Anthem. I’ve never heard of them. Bret Hart is coming down as the Commissioner. Jeremy Borash and Jerry Lawler are your commentators. The promoter is a guy named Andrew McManus. In 2015 he got busted for importing 600lbs of cocaine and did 30 days community service, no jail time. Fucking wild.
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Bret Hart is cutting a meandering promo. It covers 9/11, never coming to Australia, being stuck here, being grateful, never being beaten as champion, passing the torch, not watching wrestling for a year being “fun,” and calling Vince McMahon a piece of shit. You can tell the crowd wants him to shut up, but they respect him so they’re kind of just waiting for it to be over. You cannot make this stuff up.
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Borash and Lawler can be heard over the PA system and it’s weird. But I think that if they didn’t do it, no one would have a fucking clue what is going on. Anyway, the first actual match is Juventud Guerrera vs. Psicosis in a Ladder Match for the WWA International Cruiserweight Championship. It’s also the first round in the Seven Deadly Sins Tournament to crown a WWA World Heavyweight Champion.

Juventud is doing his Rock rip-off bit. They basically have what you’re expect between Juvi and Psicosis on an off night. Psicosis is bleeding. Juvi fucks up a crossbody off a ladder. The ladder then falls onto the referee’s head as he’s checking on both guys and King is hysterically laughing. I have no clue why a referee is in there anyway. That’s about the standout stuff. 2/5. If you expected a classic between these two talented guys, you’d probably be disappointed. The standout spot being the fuck up is a bit sad. But it wasn’t as horrible as horrible can be.
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They just brought out a knockoff Nitro Girls group called “The Starettes.” They dance like strippers as Jerry Lawler gushes over the PA. Because people are listening to the commentary, they are eerily quiet when on regular shows people would be making a bit of noise. So these strippers are dancing to nothing but a pervy old man talking about how horny he is. This is amazing for all the wrong reasons.
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A limo pulls up and Rove McManus hops out with Nathan Jones. Rove is an Australian TV personality. He’s no relation to the Andrew McManus financing the thing. He’s a big wrestling fan. Well, at least he was. He slaps Nathan Jones in a “let’s go buddy” kind of way and hurts his hand. Lenny & Lodi are there and say he’s got no fashion sense. Disco Inferno is then walking backstage and tells a production guy he’s been getting bombed since being in this country, so he wants “two suits” for protection. Faaaarrrrkkk, I know where this is going. I feel like I’ve seen this and just erased it from my memory.
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The other day I watched Dan Severn vs. Chris Candido for the NWA Title. It was a fairly standard, by the book match with Severn going over. Mark Curtis (R.I.P.) was the referee.

Severn was the right choice during that time to keep some eyeballs on their belt. Everyone knew he was legit because it was right after UFC 4. And no one was going to fuck with him because it was Dan fucking Severn.
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The next match is a Dog Collar Match between “Konan” and “The Road Dog.”

Never been the biggest fan of either guy, but their promo work wakes the crowd up, I’ve got to say. Konnan attacks Road Dogg before he can do his routine intro and basically mocks Road Dogg because the other members of DX are still gainfully employed and he got fired by the WWF. So I don’t know what WWA is supposed to count for. I think that’s the first time anyone has been mocked for not being Billy Gunn.

Jeremy Borash keeps calling Road Dogg a 7-time WWF Tag Team Champion. He’s only won it 5 times. The only 7 time champs are Edge & Christian. Mankind & Billy Gunn are on 8 each. Has no clue where he is getting that number from.

In this Dog Collar Match you can win by slapping the turnbuckles, which isn’t announced until it starts happening in the match. So there are lots of accidentally comedic spots where Road Dogg or Konnan is touching the turnbuckles and the other guy just comes up and starts beating them up like they couldn’t detect them coming. So many low blows. I’ve counted 3. Hilarious spot where Konnan tries to mock Road Dogg’s theatrics but then gets knocked on his ass.

Holy fucking shit, this is amazing. Konnan’s dog collar keeps popping off and he just doesn’t give a shit at some point. He climbs the top rope and dives off with a crowbar or something, but he’s holding it so weird because he’s going to catch a foot from RD to chin himself, which just looks so funny. Road Dogg now awkwardly tied up Konnan with the chain, mimes having anal sex with the hog-tied man, then struggles to keep his own collar on as Konnan’s fat ass keeps pulling it off. Road Dogg is basically holding it on looking like he’s choking himself as he touches the turnbuckles, but it pops off before he touches the 4th and they’re all like “Fuck it.”

This show is an amazing time capsule of fuckery. I’m giving that one 4/5 for just the comedy of how insane it was.
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There’s going to be a “Skin to Win” match. It’s four women and…I don’t know, I’m watching the show, but I guess the plan is someone is supposed to get naked? There’s a Penthouse Pet and two other women. They are all shown “stretching” seductively. Borash and Lawler are gushing over a fourth — Borash is like “bring it on baby.” They’re looking at their ass, then it is revealed they have a bulge in the front and King freaks out. Hahaha, homophobia/transphobia.
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From the other side of sanity, here comes Devon Storm for a Hardcore Match with Norman Smiley. “The following is a Hardcore Rules Match which means there are no rules.” - Jeremy Borash. This is amazing.

I’ve never seen much Devon Storm. He hits the ring in jeans and does three sentons to no one in the ring. It looks so silly but I think it’s supposed to make him look deranged. I’m feeling deranged after watching this show.

“Devon Storm listens to the voices in his head. I listen to the voices in my pants.” - I’m not going to go back and quote it verbatim, but that’s a Jerry Lawler quote. He’s not even trying. You can tell King LOVES Norman Smiley though. He’s easily the best part of the show so far.
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Okay, so the finish to this match was fucking amazing. Devon Storm puts Norman Smiley on two stacked tables. He then throws a trash can up on the rigging to the stage. He climbs up and then throws the trash can down on Smiley. He then hits a splash off the rigging, putting Smiley through the two tables and…Smiley covers Storm to win the match.

2/5. Smiley brought it to life at times. They busted their ass, but it was a WCW Hardcore Match. The best spot was Norman’s body slam.
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Disco Inferno is presented with his “friends.” He said he didn’t want friends, he wanted “suits.” They are a Bananas in Pyjamas parody. I don’t understand how anyone could write this.
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Stevie Ray is a backstage interviewer. He’s interviewing Bret Hart. It’s so weird to think of Bret Hart being the kayfabe matchmaker on this show. He makes a Battle Royal, which was already announced, and opens it up to anybody. Stevie Ray asks if roving reporters like him can enter. Bret Hart asks him what he’s waiting for, Stevie rips off his glasses and says “I’m going to kick me some ass.” It’s easily the best thing on the show so far, at least intentionally. The referee getting hit with the ladder might be up there.
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This Battle Royal is surreal. It starts off with just Buff Bagwell and Disco Inferno. Stevie Ray then walks out and starts beating up both guys. Devon Storm and Norman Smiley then join the fray. Jerry Lawler then gets off commentary and pulls Jeremy Borash into the ring with him. It’s so weird seeing Lawler interact with so many WCW guys.

JB is dumped and two referees high five each other and enter the match. A camera guy puts down his camera and enters. One of the referees — I think it is Slick Johnson — jumps onto Stevie’s shoulders. I think that’s the most athletic thing anyone has done on this show. Devon Storm is on commentary for some reason. He’s horrible. He’s making this weird noise at the end of his statements — I don’t know if that’s supposed to be a reference to something, but it’s not funny.

A woman enters the match. Of course Jerry Lawler tries to pin her. She voluntarily exits the match she voluntarily entered to avoid being sexually assaulted by The King.

It comes down to Disco Inferno and Buff Bagwell. The Fruits in Suits come down and eliminate Disco Inferno. Buff Bagwell then eliminates the guys in ghoulish banana costumes to advance in the tournament to crown a World Champion.

This cannot be rated with numerical values. This is @/5. It’s from another planet. Who would think that a staggered comedy Battle Royal for a World Title shot is a good idea to include on your inaugural PPV?
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Jerry Lawler is going to investigate The Fruits in Suits. I can’t remember exactly what happens, but I know it is horrible.
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Rove McManus cuts a promo on Jeff Jarrett. “The only person doing some stroking tonight is going to be you in your hotel room.”
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Jeff Jarrett comes out and cuts a promo calling Rove McManus a gay slur. He uses both “slapnuts” and “slapasses.” He’s wrestling Nathan Jones, whose contribution to the Rove promo was to say “Yeah!”
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Rove McManus cuts an in-ring promo. More gay slurs. I have to say that Rove is not bad though. You can tell he loves wrestling. It’s a shame that he’s the best promo on the show so far.

Nathan Jones…been a while since I’ve seen this gem. They announce him from Sydney, Australia, but I’m fairly certain he’s from another state completely.

His selling is fucking terrible. Had no clue he started this early, and apparently he made his debut in 1997. He shouldn’t be this bad. Will be interesting to see if Jeff can carry him.

Holy shit. So Jeff just charged Jones. It’s like Jones got caught between going for a sidewalk slam and a tilt-a-whirl. He powers Jeff up, but he’s facing the wrong way to put him down in a sidewalk slam, so Jeff goes backwards, and flips right out.

Lol, Rove is actually really good on commentary. It’s actually him that tries to cover for Jones by pointing out that Jarrett is sweaty. He’s actually got a knack for this. He points out his specialty is the Chokeslam. He’s actually using lines and delivery to get this guy over.

Holy shit, Nathan Jones clotheslined Jeff out of the ring, but went with him. You can tell he didn’t mean to. He is HORRIBLE. He just tossed Jeff back into the ring, but didn’t clear him over the top rope, so Jeff’s leg got caught and he spun back in.

I know Jeff Jarrett has done an episode of his podcast about the WWA. He has to talk about this match. It would be a nightmare. This guy has dropped him, or dropped himself on him no less than 3 times in 3 minutes.
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I want to see Nathan Jones vs. Bobby Walker.
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Rove McManus would probably work a better match with Jeff.

By the way, I forgot to mention — this is a Guitar on a Pole Match.
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Jeff Jarrett fucking KILLS Rove with the guitar. Rove sells better than just about anyone on this show.

The match was horrible. That’s got to be a 0/5. But Rove McManus made it very enjoyable in parts. You can’t ask much more from a celebrity’s involvement.
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Ah yes. Jerry Lawler brings out the bananas and Lenny & Lodi come out. Jerry calls him “Low-dye.” There are lots of gay jokes about fruits. Bret Hart comes out and tells King to get behind the desk and not to leave it again. He asks the fruits to get out of the ring and Jerry asks “Which ones?” Bret goes to keep talking but then “gets it” and chuckles to himself. That’s the funniest part of this horrible, horrible segment.

We’re now getting Lenny (or “Lonnie” as Bret called him) vs. Lodi vs. Road Dogg in a three-way semi-final.

I’m exhausted. I’m going to bed. I hope this doesn’t invade my dreams. Way more fun than AEW, but was heartbreaking at the time for anyone who wanted an alternative, I’m sure.
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