DISCUSSION - Which FACE will "face" Triple H at Wrestlemania 21?, other thoughts

[The CyNick]

Its way too many turns. It'll be like WCW in 99/2000, after a while nothing means anything.

Plus, if you do that, you'll still have Benoit-HHH as the main program on the show, maybe with Edge thrown in there, so there's no progression.

Plus, Orton is still buried behind HHH. At leats if Orton turns, he can get up to the top level with HHH for as long as HHH lets him be there. And then Orotn as a face can fued with all the Evo guys.

I could see maybe turning say Edge and then Benjamin down the line, but to switch all of those guys right away, its just too much.

yeah, with the way Orton is getting pops right now, you HAVE TO turn him babyface and put him against all odds (Evolution, Bischoff) and make him overcome them. It would be like Rock right before he joined the Corporation. Remember how Vince kept trying to keep him down and then he kept overcoming the odds, until he turned on the fans.

I say Orton is the main guy right now who they have to watch how they book. He is the guy that will be like the Rock and Austin, although I don't think he'll ever draw as much as they did or amount to the heights they did. But he is their X-Factor, if you want to call him that.

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Its way too many turns. It'll be like WCW in 99/2000, after a while nothing means anything. Plus, if you do that, you'll still have Benoit-HHH as the main program on the show, maybe with Edge thrown in there, so there's no progression.

Well actually - If Trips turned face (and Benoit stayed face), then they'd be on the same side (atleast in my scenerio ). Jericho, Edge, Christian, Kane, and Benjamin "take turns" in the main-event spotlight under Team Bischoff (or maybe just Jericho, Edge, and Kane).

Plus, Orton is still buried behind HHH. At leats if Orton turns, he can get up to the top level with HHH for as long as HHH lets him be there. And then Orotn as a face can fued with all the Evo guys.

True...true. I guess what I was thinking, was that Evolution could somehow be more "co-operative". For example, let's say Triple H beats Benoit at Summerslam, but then drops the title to someone (not Orton) at Mania. After Mania, Orton "steps up" and goes after the guy who beat Triple H.

Triple H supports Orton. I guess this goes against Triple H's character of "being champ at all costs", but I still think it would be interesting to see Evolution work as an EXTREMELY cohesive unit. No dissension, no nothing (atleast for a year longer or so).


Assuming that "Team Bischoff" can stay co-operate (while Evolution does the same), then perhaps all of Jericho, Orton, Batista, and Edge can all have World title reigns within a two year time span.

It does sound very unrealisitic, but the idea of this does fascinate me.

If you have no 'pecking order' within the ranks of Team Bischoff and Evolution (and everyone co-operates), then you pretty much eliminate the glass ceiling. A whole slew of guys can potentially win the World title, while the Evolution/Team Bischoff feud still remains in-tact.

I could see maybe turning say Edge and then Benjamin down the line, but to switch all of those guys right away, its just too much.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. Remember the night when the alliance (WCW and ECW) formed? That night in Atlanta Georgia, the ENTIRE WWE roster turned face, while many WCW/ECW alumni wrestlers turned heel.

Granted - the angle that followed that night sucked ASS, but the WWE still did a good job in turning everyone.

[The CyNick]

Thats a totally different thing though, that was all the WWE guys gettign together to fight off the WCW guys. What you're talking about is turing half the lockerroom heel to join Bischoff after you've turned Evolution babyafce. Like I said, the fans would be very confused .

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Thats a totally different thing though, that was all the WWE guys gettign together to fight off the WCW guys. What you're talking about is turing half the lockerroom heel to join Bischoff after you've turned Evolution babyafce. Like I said, the fans would be very confused .

Yeah I agree.

Anyyyyyyyyways, I'd much rather see Orton still be in Evolution until Wrestlemania (as a heel stable).....but that's just me.


As far as Edge and Benjamin go? Although Edge's current character is SLOWLY starting to get better (he impressed me last night with his match against Orton and promo against Orton), but I still think he needs to add that extra 'something' to his personality to REALLY get the fans behind him (perhaps being more like his OLDSCHOOL original self?).

I'm still not completely sold on Edge, but he's warming up on me.


As far as Shelton Benjamin is concerned, what do you think of the idea of him being more "Ken Shamrock/Joe Fraizer" like? (a very serious, intense, and resilient competitor that lets his actions do the talking).

I have a feeling that the fans would buy more into Benjamin if he had that gimmick. I don't know about you guys, but he kind of comes across as.......gay........when tries to act 'cocky' or 'smug' in the ring (and when he smiles and stuff).