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Old 07-29-2004, 03:45 AM   #41
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Old 07-29-2004, 12:25 PM   #42
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Old 07-29-2004, 03:00 PM   #43
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Old 07-29-2004, 03:22 PM   #44
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I genuinely hope that in 2008, David Flair becomes the "Red Blazer" in the WWE and he dies in the exact same manner as Owen did.
I wouldn't wish death on anyone and David Flair actually has some respect for people unlike his old man.
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Old 07-29-2004, 03:29 PM   #45
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Ric Flair is just a cranky old bastard (read his book, he is a bastard) who is bitter over the fact that people realize what he truly is. A Talentless fuckwad who only got over because of rednecks who were to poor to watch the WWF.


~EDIT~ This is sarcasm. You act like I'm pissing on the bible or something. JEsus.

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Old 07-29-2004, 03:34 PM   #46
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Ric Flair is just a cranky old bastard (read his book, he is a bastard) who is bitter over the fact that people realize what he truly is. A Talentless fuckwad who only got over because of rednecks who were to poor to watch the WWF.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:01 PM   #47
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Ric Flair can't hold Bret Hart's jock
Because one would need a jock to hold...Bret's abit "short" in that department.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:02 PM   #48
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Ric Flair is just a cranky old bastard (read his book, he is a bastard) who is bitter over the fact that people realize what he truly is. A Talentless fuckwad who only got over because of rednecks who were to poor to watch the WWF.
You deserve to be disembowled through your throat.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:02 PM   #49
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Because one would need a jock to hold...Bret's abit "short" in that department.
So you are one of those fans who watch matches just to stare at dicks?
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Ric Flair is just a cranky old bastard (read his book, he is a bastard) who is bitter over the fact that people realize what he truly is. A Talentless fuckwad who only got over because of rednecks who were to poor to watch the WWF.
At least he's not some bitter Canadian who still bitches about his past to this very day. And who is stuck being liked but stupid foreigners who never had the privelage of watching a Ric Flair match, promo, or segment.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:07 PM   #51
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:34 PM   #52
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At least he's not some bitter Canadian who still bitches about his past to this very day. And who is stuck being liked but stupid foreigners who never had the privelage of watching a Ric Flair match, promo, or segment.
Man, besides your love for Pearl Jam, which is something everyone should have, you're an idiot. It's "by", not "but".

BTW, who keeps bringing it up? Yeah, everyone but Bret now. Face it, we'd all be bored without Bret convos to bide our time.
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Old 07-29-2004, 05:36 PM   #53
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Man, besides your love for Pearl Jam, which is something everyone should have, you're an idiot. It's "by", not "but".

BTW, who keeps bringing it up? Yeah, everyone but Bret now. Face it, we'd all be bored without Bret convos to bide our time.
Yeah. 9/10 it's the bret haters who bring it up, usually in a way as idiotic as KoOS here.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:01 PM   #54
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I genuinely hope that in 2008, David Flair becomes the "Red Blazer" in the WWE and he dies in the exact same manner as Owen did.
Why do you wish death upon someone who has never done or siad anything disrespectful about anyone in wrestling.

As far as Flair is concerned, I[ might not be Bret's greatest fan that ever existed but the stuff Flair has spoken about is just f***** up. I will forever respect Flair as a wrestler but the person behind the wrestler is just an asshole.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:36 PM   #55
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Why do you wish death upon someone who has never done or siad anything disrespectful about anyone in wrestling.
Well, 1) It's heyman, and 2) I think he's going for the whole "So Flair can feel the same loss as a loved one and see if he still talks this shit."

While I don't want David dead or anything, I do wonder just how strong Flair's convictions would be if his family started dropping like flies.
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Old 07-29-2004, 07:15 PM   #56
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Man, besides your love for Pearl Jam, which is something everyone should have, you're an idiot.
Why?

Because I don't have my head up Bret Hart's ass like most of you do and have actually watched enough of Ric Flair's stuff over the years to realize that Flair is better than Bret?

Why?

Because I've actually stayed true to my favorite wrestler of all time and not turn on him just because he says stuff about Bret Hart that made idiots like you get their Huggies in a bunch?

Why?

Because I'm not a 14 year old ignorant loser who has never gotten the chance to actually watch a lot of Flair stuff from the time where he was actually used correctly? Or is it because I'm not someone who's only source of wrestling was the WWF therefor making biased opinions about Flair left and right just because of it?
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Old 07-29-2004, 07:31 PM   #57
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All that man just because I called you out on something that is now pretty much fact? Bret hasn't been bringing the Montreal thing up unless he is forced into bringing it up. You were making a rather stupid comment on that situation, thus entitling me to call you out on that.

And BTW, you assume too much. Many of us can realize Bret isn't perfect or some saint. I've seen them both enough myself to have a rather valid opinion, and I'm telling you, Flair is senile now. He's like a fucking blind sheep.

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Old 07-29-2004, 08:01 PM   #58
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LOL @ the notion of Triple S of all people trying to "keep it real" by remaining true like the idiot fanboys he alleges the Bret fans are.

I guess faking getting shot is also part of the whole keepin' it real" thing.

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Why?

Because I don't have my head up Bret Hart's ass like most of you do and have actually watched enough of Ric Flair's stuff over the years to realize that Flair is better than Bret?

Why?

Because I've actually stayed true to my favorite wrestler of all time and not turn on him just because he says stuff about Bret Hart that made idiots like you get their Huggies in a bunch?

Why?

Because I'm not a 14 year old ignorant loser who has never gotten the chance to actually watch a lot of Flair stuff from the time where he was actually used correctly? Or is it because I'm not someone who's only source of wrestling was the WWF therefor making biased opinions about Flair left and right just because of it?
Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!
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LOL @ the notion of Triple S of all people trying to "keep it real" by remaining true like the idiot fanboys he alleges the Bret fans are.

I guess faking getting shot is also part of the whole keepin' it real" thing.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!
You are the fucking man.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:11 PM   #62
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Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!
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Old 07-31-2004, 06:28 PM   #64
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Why?

Because I don't have my head up Bret Hart's ass like most of you do and have actually watched enough of Ric Flair's stuff over the years to realize that Flair is better than Bret?

Why?

Because I've actually stayed true to my favorite wrestler of all time and not turn on him just because he says stuff about Bret Hart that made idiots like you get their Huggies in a bunch?

Why?

Because I'm not a 14 year old ignorant loser who has never gotten the chance to actually watch a lot of Flair stuff from the time where he was actually used correctly? Or is it because I'm not someone who's only source of wrestling was the WWF therefor making biased opinions about Flair left and right just because of it?
If you watch Flair as much as you claim to, you would know that Bret hit the nail on the head when he said that all Flair's matches are the same routine. I know myself, because i've watched wrestling for over twenty years, so i've seen my share of Flair matches. It was the same routine against every opponent. About the only thing Flair was good at was cutting a good promo. There is a misconceived perseption that because Flair was a 16-time champ that he was a legendary wrestler. If Goldberg or Kevin Nash were 16-time champs would that make them legendary too?
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CoE, you really do dislike me greatly don't you
Sorry I got to this late.

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Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!
When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work.

Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:32 PM   #67
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If you watch Flair as much as you claim to, you would know that Bret hit the nail on the head when he said that all Flair's matches are the same routine. I know myself, because i've watched wrestling for over twenty years, so i've seen my share of Flair matches. It was the same routine against every opponent. About the only thing Flair was good at was cutting a good promo. There is a misconceived perseption that because Flair was a 16-time champ that he was a legendary wrestler. If Goldberg or Kevin Nash were 16-time champs would that make them legendary too?
Bret Hart does the same routine against every opponent.

Likewise with just about every other guy in American feds.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:37 PM   #68
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LOL @ the notion of Triple S of all people trying to "keep it real" by remaining true like the idiot fanboys he alleges the Bret fans are.

I guess faking getting shot is also part of the whole keepin' it real" thing.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
So says the guy who had a baby that killed itself when it realized that you were going to be the father of it.
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:00 AM   #69
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When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work.

Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.
Funny. I've found reasons to hate Triple H on and off screen.

The boredom factor is pretty high up there, and sum total would beat out his backstage politics.

But that's just me.
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:00 AM   #70
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Oh man, scot. You sure showed me.
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:18 AM   #71
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It's funny because Flair has said to Bret before that the greatest match he's ever seen was Bret/Bulldog: Summerslam 92.
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Old 08-01-2004, 10:04 AM   #72
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When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work.

Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.
Okay firstly you are full of shit. If your posts were made up from opinions based on what you see on TV only then I could accept it but they aren't and you know it. I could easily go through the last few big threads and post examples but I'm sure you already know all this anyway so there is no point.

Bret Hart was on the active WCW roster from November 1997 to January 2000. Aside from the matches with Benoit, he gave Booker T arguably the match of his career to that point. Ditto for Goldberg. Sting had the best matches of the last 7 years of his career and he also had a great match with Ric Flair. Now in that same period, what did Flair do? As a matter of fact, what classic matches did Flair have in WCW after his WCW title win against Vader?
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It's funny because Flair has said to Bret before that the greatest match he's ever seen was Bret/Bulldog: Summerslam 92.
He says that to everyone though. He told Rico it was an honour to work with him!
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:08 AM   #74
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You Flair Ass Kissers are just pissed because i was right.

RIC FLAIR IS NOTHING MORE THAN:

a cranky old bastard (read his book, he is a bastard) who is bitter over the fact that people realize what he truly is. A Talentless fuckwad who only got over because of rednecks who were to poor to watch the WWF.


Get over it, Bret > Flair, Sharpshooter (except Rock's) > Figure 4 (By Flair)


Bret > EVERYBODY.


I may have my head up Bret's ass, but it least my tapes don't require "porno" sticker for all the rubber cleavage.
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Old 08-01-2004, 06:45 PM   #75
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When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work.

Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.
I can't think of one good match Flair has done since being back in the WWE. It's still the same ol' routine. Throw him in the corner, do that stupid flip in the corner, stand for a second, then fall flat on his face. Then for some idiotic reason, climb to the top rope, only to get slammed. Has he ever hit a move off the tope rope to even consider climbing up there to begin with? I know he is old, and it's admirable that he is still active, but if you look back ten years ago, it was still the same routine. Flair is nothing more than an average wrestler. People's mind's get skewed because they see he has been champ 16-times. If he was so legendary, than why has he only held the WWE title once? And that was only for a short period of time, before McMahon realized that he wasn't as good as he thought he was.
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I don't actually "wish that", but I was trying to prove a point.

If anyone is allowed to have opinions without caring about the consequences, then why should I be any different? Furthermore - why should Flair "react" if he happens to read my comments?
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Old 08-01-2004, 07:27 PM   #77
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I can't even count the times throughout the 80's and 90's that I saw the PWI results month after month showing that Ric Flair retained his NWA title because of his many, many matches that ended in his loss due to disqualification.

Was jobbing foreign to him?
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I can't think of one good match Flair has done since being back in the WWE. It's still the same ol' routine. Throw him in the corner, do that stupid flip in the corner, stand for a second, then fall flat on his face. Then for some idiotic reason, climb to the top rope, only to get slammed. Has he ever hit a move off the tope rope to even consider climbing up there to begin with? I know he is old, and it's admirable that he is still active, but if you look back ten years ago, it was still the same routine. Flair is nothing more than an average wrestler. People's mind's get skewed because they see he has been champ 16-times. If he was so legendary, than why has he only held the WWE title once? And that was only for a short period of time, before McMahon realized that he wasn't as good as he thought he was.
Exactly what I was going to say. He is way past his prime, and he should stick to managing because he would be one of the best to help get new talent over. He has dedicated his life to wrestling, and for that fact he deserves great respect, but for his bashing of other great wrestlers and for asskissing so much, he has lost a great deal of respect in my eyes.
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I can't even count the times throughout the 80's and 90's that I saw the PWI results month after month showing that Ric Flair retained his NWA title because of his many, many matches that ended in his loss due to disqualification.

Was jobbing foreign to him?
Doing the JOB is not foreign for Flair.......especially if it involves Triple H's penis.
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I think he meant jobbing IN RING.
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