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Old 10-06-2004, 04:54 PM   #41
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Fine man, sorry. The only thing I did it for was that it might spark interest for people to watch the show. What's done is done.
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Old 10-06-2004, 04:56 PM   #42
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Geez, guys, Carlito WON BY BLATANTLY CHEATING!!!!

How does that ruin the credibility? Besides, when Cena comes back, he'll prolly be on the main event status. And from what I hear, Carlito DOES have the wrestling skill. Firstly, it's in his blood, and secondly, I've that he's definite not bad and only needs TV experience.
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Old 10-06-2004, 04:57 PM   #43
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No everyone's just pissed because of my thread title, that's all.
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:04 PM   #44
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No everyone's just pissed because of my thread title, that's all.
So why didn't you change it?
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Old 10-06-2004, 06:14 PM   #45
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Well I don't think I'm gonna bother going to the Smackdown show next week, free ticket or not - I'd rather get pissed with my mates than have to watch Hardcore Holly live again, let alone watch him face JBL for the WWE title
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Old 10-06-2004, 06:18 PM   #46
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I just thought,in the WWE how many titles are around heel's waists at the moment?

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Trish..
la resistance and spike, kenzo and rene dupree.

missed alot there bud


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Old 10-06-2004, 06:18 PM   #47
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I didn't read anything in this topic but Fuck you Splaya. You don't put New champ in the god damn title when the show hasn't aired.
yeah, don't put a fucking spoiler in the title especially when you say "spoilers."
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Old 10-06-2004, 06:47 PM   #48
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Oh my god, NO. The last time a WWE Champion feuded with Holly, HE QUIT.
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Old 10-06-2004, 06:51 PM   #49
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That could have it's advantages this time around.
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Old 10-06-2004, 07:09 PM   #50
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Well, not sure what to think about all of this. I'll have to wait until the show to see how it goes down, but you have the most popular guy on the SD roster (besides Taker) get jobbed to a rookie, for his belt. And the belt, he had just won 2/4 days before this match. I don't really agree with this, but have to wait to see the show to really judge.
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Old 10-06-2004, 07:17 PM   #51
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Oh my god, NO. The last time a WWE Champion feuded with Holly, HE QUIT.
lol I witnessed it... It was HELL
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Old 10-06-2004, 07:17 PM   #52
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lol I witnessed it live... It was HELL
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Old 10-06-2004, 07:58 PM   #53
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Oh my god, NO. The last time a WWE Champion feuded with Holly, HE QUIT.
Oddly, too, Brock quit because he was not going to stoop as low as to feud with Hardcore Holly overseas.

When is the WWE going on tour again?
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:04 PM   #54
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I am not to sure about CCC as champion but I have seen nothing from him so I will keep my thoughts for then. One thing that does stick out though is he used a chain to win it wasnt clean or anything so it could be very good if booked right and if he has the skills. Most people bitch about rookies not being pushed well you cant get a much better push than this.

Also guys it wasnt like Splaya said what title changed hands on the show. It could have been any of three so quit bitching and get on with life.
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:13 PM   #55
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Also guys it wasnt like Splaya said what title changed hands on the show. It could have been any of three so quit bitching and get on with life.
Process of elimination. Do you think JBL was gonna job the title on SMACKDOWN? No. When someone says "title" it almost exclusively rules out the tag team division. So whats left? Gee, I wonder.

People will usually get pissed when you post a spoiler without saying that it is. So I think people are justified for being pissed when someone says "Smackdown title change" in the topic title.

BTW thank you Splaya for changing the title.
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:16 PM   #56
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Its not probable but it could happen. Also the tag titles seem to be whored around on SD so much lately who says it wasnt tags again.
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:21 PM   #57
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Its not probable but it could happen. Also the tag titles seem to be whored around on SD so much lately who says it wasnt tags again.
Tag or US titles, it doesn't matter. No one should be posting a fucking spoiler in a title.
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:26 PM   #58
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No they shouldnt but why the fuck were people giving him shit 3 pages later I mean damn he posted a spoiler (a very non descriptive one at that) and people are still giving him shit after 3 pages.

Dont get me wrong I'm not exactly happy about it. I dont get to see this for 2 weeks because I'm in NZ but you dont see me crying over it. If you dont want absolutely any of your viewing ruined by spoilers why come to a wrestling discusssion board where a lot of spoilers are posted. Sooner or later there will be a spoiler somwhere it shouldnt be.

Someone could have just told him to change the title (Which he did when asked) and that could be the end of it why make such a huge fucking deal over something so small.
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:30 PM   #59
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:25 PM   #60
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No they shouldnt but why the fuck were people giving him shit 3 pages later I mean damn he posted a spoiler (a very non descriptive one at that) and people are still giving him shit after 3 pages.

Dont get me wrong I'm not exactly happy about it. I dont get to see this for 2 weeks because I'm in NZ but you dont see me crying over it. If you dont want absolutely any of your viewing ruined by spoilers why come to a wrestling discusssion board where a lot of spoilers are posted. Sooner or later there will be a spoiler somwhere it shouldnt be.

Someone could have just told him to change the title (Which he did when asked) and that could be the end of it why make such a huge fucking deal over something so small.
Sooner or later yes, but people will get rightfully annoyed by it.

I agree, it is my choice to come to this, a wrestling discussion board, but most people would appreciate a spoiler warning with a title that will not inadvertenly post some sort of spoiler in itself. If I know that spoiler information is going to be contained in a topic, and the topic title courteously states what is contained, I won't read it. I'm sure people would appreciate having the option.

But he made an honest mistake and was called to task for it. He changed the title. Its all good.
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:32 PM   #61
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Sweet as man it just bugs me when someone get annoyed with someone (rightfully or not) and everyone gangs up on that person for ages.

Trust me I do agree spoilers in titles are annoying.
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:37 PM   #62
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Coll as man it just bugs me when someone get annoyed with someone (rightfully or not) and everyone gangs up on that person for ages.
On the flipside of the real world, I'd agree with you 110%

But, this place is different from other boards I've seen. In here if we sense a wounded animal, we are like wolves marking out for a kill.

That is just the way of it. But.........its all in fun.
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:12 PM   #63
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Oh my god, NO. The last time a WWE Champion feuded with Holly, HE QUIT.
I'm shocked I'm the one to be the first to post this.


If JBL quit, would it necessarily be the worst thing in the world?
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:17 PM   #65
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:49 PM   #66
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What an embarrasement here's a guy who hasn't paid his dues and gains a major title in his first match on smackdown.No wonder WWE is going down hill they need to hire some new writers .Plus they ruin Cena's rep losing to a rookie
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Old 10-07-2004, 12:58 AM   #67
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Some guys are untouchable when it comes to doing JOBs. Best examples are Rock and Foley. Those two guys could lose every night to everyone on the roster and people will still go crazy for them. Cena isn't over to their level yet, but he's about the closest thing the WWE has to one of those guys, at least of the younger guys (atker and HBK could JOB every night and they would still be over).

I agree with what LC was saying. They made a new star, and it wont hurt Cena a bit. Especially if he's off TV shooting his movie. I mean he's already one of the most over guys on either roster, if he's off TV for a month or so, people will still see him as a huge star when he comes back. Cena needs to move up anyway, so this is a good way to get the ball rolling. Or at the very least, Cena has a new program to come back to.

As for where to go with CCC, I think RVD/Rey might be staying as a team for the time being. But there are plenty of other options. You could go to BT (whose turning face), you got Haas, and Chavo will be a face when he comes back, so they could do something.
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Old 10-07-2004, 01:09 AM   #68
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I hope the Booker Jordan confrontation leads to Booker T vs JBL.

With Booker going over of course.
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:50 AM   #69
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What is really fucking stupid tho is this whole CCC. In australia, we dont get the vignettes u guys get, so the only thing i've ever seen about him was when Paul Heyman wrestled Funaki (and heidenriech raped Mitchell Cole (Y2J ref)). They showed the end of him promo video...and that was it!

Fruthermore, we saw none of the Mr.Benjamin vignettes and have not seen any simon dean vignettes either.

Anyway, muy hope for smackdown is 2 months down the road....
WWE Champ: Booker T
Tag Team Champs: RVD and Mysterio or Rico and Haas
US Champ: Charlie Haas or RVD



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Old 10-07-2004, 01:27 PM   #70
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It does seem somewhat weird that Cena went through 5 Matched just to win the belt only to lose it the very next show.

Either way I havent seen CCC so ill save judgement till i do.

Can't say im a big fan of his name though :/

Either way Ill definatly have to check it out.
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Old 10-07-2004, 08:04 PM   #71
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What an embarrasement here's a guy who hasn't paid his dues and gains a major title in his first match on smackdown.No wonder WWE is going down hill they need to hire some new writers .Plus they ruin Cena's rep losing to a rookie
That's some bullshit right there.

First of all, the whole "paid his dues" thing is crap. Anyone who's made it to the WWE has obviously paid their dues (with the exception of the Tough Enough kids, and they aren't even getting pushes so it doesn't matter). The WWE is the top of the top, and when you get there, you've paid your fucking dues.

And the whole thing about ruining Cena's rep is even bigger bullshit. Being the average WWE fan, you probably don't remember how John Cena himself debuted: victories over Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle in his first two fucking matches. That's how you debut a wrestler with great potential. Did Cena's wins over Jericho and Angle hurt their careers? Let's see: Jericho is (arguably) the top face on RAW, and Kurt Angle is (arguably) the best heel on Smackdown.

I'm glad they did something unexpected like have Cena drop the title so soon and to a debuting worker. It makes for exciting TV, and puts Carlito in a position to prove himself, which I'm sure he will in the coming weeks.
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Old 10-07-2004, 11:28 PM   #72
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HUGE PROPS to the WWE for giving CCC that push.

That came off perfect on TV. Not just the match, but all of CCC's segments. The backstage promo was excellent. CCC definatel has "It." You could tell by that promo and the way he delievered his lines. He knows how to use expressions, which as just as important as words and he knows how to use timing when speaking.

His work in the ring is decent and will only get better. I loved how he asked the ref to put the US Title on him at the end and I loved how he stole Cena's chain. His outfit is really cool too with that white Hawian shirt he had on He looked.....well he looked "Cool."

Only problem I have with him is his theme. The theme is way too slow. It needs a little more pace IMO. Also, I hate the way it just stops half way through and he says his phrase. Sounds wierd.

But, CCC is a huge + all together.
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Old 10-07-2004, 11:31 PM   #73
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Old 10-07-2004, 11:47 PM   #74
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That's some bullshit right there.

First of all, the whole "paid his dues" thing is crap. Anyone who's made it to the WWE has obviously paid their dues (with the exception of the Tough Enough kids, and they aren't even getting pushes so it doesn't matter). The WWE is the top of the top, and when you get there, you've paid your fucking dues.

And the whole thing about ruining Cena's rep is even bigger bullshit. Being the average WWE fan, you probably don't remember how John Cena himself debuted: victories over Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle in his first two fucking matches. That's how you debut a wrestler with great potential. Did Cena's wins over Jericho and Angle hurt their careers? Let's see: Jericho is (arguably) the top face on RAW, and Kurt Angle is (arguably) the best heel on Smackdown.

I'm glad they did something unexpected like have Cena drop the title so soon and to a debuting worker. It makes for exciting TV, and puts Carlito in a position to prove himself, which I'm sure he will in the coming weeks.
I respect your opinion but having Cena win the best of 5 series and losing the title the next week doesn't give Cena much recoginition as a great champ."The Champ is here" Ya for about a week.So you don't find it wrong that a guy like RVD doesn't recieve a major title push after he works his tail off but a debuting wrestler wins the U.S title in his first match?The Rock started off as a no name,HHH as well even Kurt Angle didn't recieve this kind of a push this early so why is CCC special?
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Old 10-07-2004, 11:58 PM   #76
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RVD has been buried to hell so many times that being champ won't really help him. With CCC, he was just in the right place at the right time. He looks strong as ever now and that's what the WWE needs. strong characters. Why would they push Carlito in all those videos, bring him to TV and do nothing with him. Now that makes zero sense to me. This isn't 1994 anymore. You can't give guys slow pushes. You have to make an impact right away and they did exactly that. "Deserves" should not even be questioned in this day and age. Who's to say "wrestler x" doesn't deserve a shot?

Cena is sooooooooooo over that this loss won't even affect him. He'll go do his movie, come back and probably be feuding with someone like Kurt. No effect at all. The WWE just made a potential star tonight and yet we're complaining. Isn't this what you guys want? I know it's what I want.
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That's some bullshit right there.

First of all, the whole "paid his dues" thing is crap.

I 1000% agree. I mean, look at Goldberg and regal. Regal didnt let him win easily because he said Goldberg hadn't "paid his dues". Therefore, goldberg should have jobbed for 2 months or something?

You have to give what the fans want, that is how you spark interest, and the rise and rise of goldberg did that.


CCC is a similar thing. It might be slightly unfair to someone like RVD who is busting his arse and hasnt got the title, but then, what exactly does a title show?
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[QUOTE=Aussie_Skier]I 1000% agree. I mean, look at Goldberg and regal. Regal didnt let him win easily because he said Goldberg hadn't "paid his dues". Therefore, goldberg should have jobbed for 2 months or something?
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Goldberg was different as he was quite physically built and really athletic.The streak was something that was never seen before in pro wrestling.I just saw Carlito and what does he have beeter then most guys.

Good Mic skills:No all he could come up with was those "cool" phrases which will get old quick

Physical stature:No,he isn't that big and isn't ripped like most.With that fro he should be a pro football player not a wrestler.

Haven't seen the match with Cena just the interview maybe that will change my mind
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I respect your opinion but having Cena win the best of 5 series and losing the title the next week doesn't give Cena much recoginition as a great champ."The Champ is here" Ya for about a week.So you don't find it wrong that a guy like RVD doesn't recieve a major title push after he works his tail off but a debuting wrestler wins the U.S title in his first match?The Rock started off as a no name,HHH as well even Kurt Angle didn't recieve this kind of a push this early so why is CCC special?
First of all, I'm a huge RVD fan and I think his recent demotion to Velocity is utter bullshit, but that doesn't mean I should be bitter towards every other debuting worker who gets a push. It's an injustice, yes, but life in the WWE is not fair.

Second, Kurt Angle DID recieve this kind of push, and won the European Championship in one of his first televised matches in the WWE. He also went on a legitimate undefeated streak, until being beaten by Tazz at Royal Rumble 2000. When the WWE sees great potential and talent in a wrestler, they give them the mega push and sometimes it works (Cena, Angle, Mysterio, Austin) and sometimes it doesn't (Tazz, Mordecai, Mark Henry).

The best of 5 series wasn't even that great, so the fact that he won doesn't really mean anything. It's not like Cena was squashed on Smackdown, and if he was then my opinion would be much different. Cena did lose, but he did it to put over an up and comer, just as Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho did for him.
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Also guys it wasnt like Splaya said what title changed hands on the show. It could have been any of three so quit bitching and get on with life.
Um yeah onlt one title was on the line.
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