World Heavyweight Championship or WWE Championship?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon See, I agree with mainly everything there, but JBL is in no way more deserving then Eddie IMO. I think the Belt did a 180 with JBL and went backwards.

I agree with that. But in 20 years when the new generation sprouts up and Eddie Guerrero's greatness is legend, and JBL is just another mark in the WWE Championship heritage, they're gonna look at the history of the belt and go "Wow, JBL (storyline-wise) was tougher than Eddie Guerrero then. Then they'll look at how he won it (in a Texas Bullrope Match), and they'll go "Oh, he was a otough Texas guy!".

The point of the story is that Eddie Guerrero is much more deserving in reality, but JBL is being billed as deserving storyline-wise. Eddie Guerrero will get the title again, and then we'll see Eddie Guerrero was still getting better when he won his first championship. Just being optimistic, I guess.

[The CyNick]

At the same time with wrestling being a work, you could take anyone, even David Arquete and make them champion. WCW could have ran with Arquette as champ for months, but people would have been turned off.

So with any world title you have to keep it on people that fans accpet as top guys. I agree with LC when he says JBL was put int he world title picture with literally no build, that definately hurt.

I dont think JBL has hurt the company in any way, because numbers wise SD is pretty much in the same spot with him as champ as they were with Eddie and slightly better than they are on RAW with the almighty as World Champ. But I do think it would help the credibility of the title if they put it one of the universally recognized top guys on that side (Eddie, Kurt, Show or Taker). Ultimately it should be put on Cena, but thats another story for another day.

In terms of Eddie, I think fans still see Eddie as a guy who is "above" JBL even though JBL won every match they had. The fact of the matter is that every one of their matches were laid out to make Eddie look better than JBL. In the match in LA, Eddie wouldn't quit even though he lost 4 or 5 pints of blood. In the Bull Rope match, JBL only won because Angle overturned the initial decision and JBL didn't win with an offensive move. And then in the Cage Match, Kurt cost Eddie the match. And even judging by the reactions of the fans, I still think Eddie is seen as a bigger star.

As for where to go with JBL post dropping the title. I would hope think he'll be given a US title run. But at the same time, Carlito has that belt, and I'd hate to see him drop it too quickly. I mentioned before that I'd like to see Hogan-JBL do a program at Mania (brutal match in the ring, I know). But I think they could do some good stuff promo wise, and their gimmicks are perfect opponents for one another. Of course JBL would have to go over, and I think that would give him some legitimacy in the fans' eyes. From there maybe he could get the US title or remain a top challenger for the WWE title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by The CyNick At the same time with wrestling being a work, you could take anyone, even David Arquete and make them champion. WCW could have ran with Arquette as champ for months, but people would have been turned off. So with any world title you have to keep it on people that fans accpet as top guys. I agree with LC when he says JBL was put int he world title picture with literally no build, that definately hurt. I dont think JBL has hurt the company in any way, because numbers wise SD is pretty much in the same spot with him as champ as they were with Eddie and slightly better than they are on RAW with the almighty as World Champ. But I do think it would help the credibility of the title if they put it one of the universally recognized top guys on that side (Eddie, Kurt, Show or Taker). Ultimately it should be put on Cena, but thats another story for another day. In terms of Eddie, I think fans still see Eddie as a guy who is "above" JBL even though JBL won every match they had. The fact of the matter is that every one of their matches were laid out to make Eddie look better than JBL. In the match in LA, Eddie wouldn't quit even though he lost 4 or 5 pints of blood. In the Bull Rope match, JBL only won because Angle overturned the initial decision and JBL didn't win with an offensive move. And then in the Cage Match, Kurt cost Eddie the match. And even judging by the reactions of the fans, I still think Eddie is seen as a bigger star. As for where to go with JBL post dropping the title. I would hope think he'll be given a US title run. But at the same time, Carlito has that belt, and I'd hate to see him drop it too quickly. I mentioned before that I'd like to see Hogan-JBL do a program at Mania (brutal match in the ring, I know). But I think they could do some good stuff promo wise, and their gimmicks are perfect opponents for one another. Of course JBL would have to go over, and I think that would give him some legitimacy in the fans' eyes. From there maybe he could get the US title or remain a top challenger for the WWE title.

That is why you are the best.

I would love to see JBL/Hogan. I also think something as simple as JBL/Triple H would be good

[Aussie Skier]

Originally Posted by The CyNick As for where to go with JBL post dropping the title. I would hope think he'll be given a US title run. But at the same time, Carlito has that belt, and I'd hate to see him drop it too quickly. I mentioned before that I'd like to see Hogan-JBL do a program at Mania (brutal match in the ring, I know). But I think they could do some good stuff promo wise, and their gimmicks are perfect opponents for one another. Of course JBL would have to go over, and I think that would give him some legitimacy in the fans' eyes. From there maybe he could get the US title or remain a top challenger for the WWE title.

a match between hogan and JBL would be awesome!!!

And i dont neccasarilly feel that JBL would hafta win either.
If they could both bleed a bit, ppl recognise hogan's legacy, and JBL even matching it with hogan would be

[Aussie Skier]

i think the world championship is higher than the wwe championship.

as much as i love JBL (i was the only person cheering for him at the melbourne show), he was rushed into the spotlight too quickly. A month earlier he had lost in a four way tag team match to two wrestlers who were fairly big names in 2000. a month before that, him and farooq were outclasses by charlie haas and shelton benjamin, and a month before that, he was the first wrestler eliminated in the royal rumble.

i just HATE that fast run 2 the top.

but alienoid is saying is quite correct, and in years to come, that fast run to the top wont be recognsied as such

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Aussie_Skier a match between hogan and JBL would be awesome!!! And i dont neccasarilly feel that JBL would hafta win either. If they could both bleed a bit, ppl recognise hogan's legacy, and JBL even matching it with hogan would be

I agree. I think it would have almost a "classic" feel to it. Hogan's got the finishing leg strike, and Bradshaw's got the arm strike. Plus they've both got cartoony characters they portray, which will paint face and heel quite easily. Their names as well (Hollywood Hulk Hogan & John Bradshaw Layfield), there's just something about them that clicks.

Maybe it could turn out JBL has "invested" in Brooke Hogan, and that ticks of the Hulkster.

[diamondcutter]

I voted for the World Title. Since the lineage of both belts are rather convoluted, I based my decision by the names of the titles. To me, being the "Heavyweight Champion of the World," sounds more important than being "The Heavyweight Champion of WWE.