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Old 11-08-2004, 12:15 AM   #1
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Quite interesting. I will be interested to see who Savage sides with, and holpefully in the long run this will lead to the new gaurd (Styles, Hardy, AMW, 3LK etc.) beating all of the old gaurd.

Imagine AMW Hardy and Stlyes in a Wargames Cage.
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Quite interesting. I will be interested to see who Savage sides with, and holpefully in the long run this will lead to the new gaurd (Styles, Hardy, AMW, 3LK etc.) beating all of the old gaurd.

Imagine AMW Hardy and Stlyes in a Wargames Cage.
take out Hardy, put it Killings and you've got it.
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jarret is worse than triple h man, how long is he gonna hold on to the damn belt, he should just get it surgically attached
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I'll def. be taping Impact for the next few weeks to see how this shit plays out. So what did Savage do? They just showed him walking down the ramp then it ended? WTF?
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He came down to an altered version of the graduation music and the security didn't let him through. Then it ended.
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I can't believe they're recycling the nWo angle once again. Even Hollywood Hogan was backstage, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they did the thing where people thought he was going to help 3LK, AJ Styles, etc., and then he winds up turning on them.
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It is a good thing. Recycled angle or not it should generate interest. Like it or not in the wrestling world the Outsiders and Savage are high profile. People will tune in to see what is going to happen. Now if they snag Hogan it is really all on because he is not just a wrestling personality but it can be argued he is a mainstream celebrity. Hogan in the fed would make a lot of people sit up and take notice, and I am sure a few eyebrows have already been raised by the Outsiders and Savage return.

Now quite frankly this is a big chance for TNA because if done right then they can gain some media attention as well as giving there own guys (Styles, Raven, AMW etc.) a real rub. If they keep all of the old guys under control (No booking or creative control) then they can give the young guys a rub and exploit these older guys for all they are worth.

I think if the old gaurd is controlled this could be quite entertaining and very rewarding for TNA.
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It is a good thing. Recycled angle or not it should generate interest. Like it or not in the wrestling world the Outsiders and Savage are high profile. People will tune in to see what is going to happen. Now if they snag Hogan it is really all on because he is not just a wrestling personality but it can be argued he is a mainstream celebrity. Hogan in the fed would make a lot of people sit up and take notice, and I am sure a few eyebrows have already been raised by the Outsiders and Savage return.

Now quite frankly this is a big chance for TNA because if done right then they can gain some media attention as well as giving there own guys (Styles, Raven, AMW etc.) a real rub. If they keep all of the old guys under control (No booking or creative control) then they can give the young guys a rub and exploit these older guys for all they are worth.

I think if the old gaurd is controlled this could be quite entertaining and very rewarding for TNA.
Well you're right, it could be a good angle if they don't get outta control with it like WCW did, but with Jarrett, Nash, and Hogan being backstage... I have strong doubts about the whole thing. Jarrett alone was bad enough.

BTW I bet all of those former WWE wrestlers'll be joining this "new" faction.
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can't wait till they're ready to go head to head with WWE, if they keep things like this happening then it shouldnt' be too long

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Killings is in 3LK but yes I agree he really should be named apart because I think he along with Styles and Hardy is the near future of TNA.

As for the old gaurd getting out of control, I just hope Jerry Jarrett hes learnt the mistakes of WCW. And last but not least I want a T.V deal in NZ. Does anyone know if it shows on ESPN at all?
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Old 11-08-2004, 03:02 AM   #12
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Wow! Sounds like a really good PPV!
Disappointed Jeff Hardy didnt win the title, and I hope that wasnt his last shot because he is doing wonders right now.
But the ending sounded really good as it was.

Cant wait to see how this pans out.
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:11 AM   #13
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I wonder if they're going ot call their stable "The Outsiders" or what? An itneretsing way to look at this scenario is this. Here is Jeff Jarret, he's spent a few years trying to establish himself as a champion of a company he tries so hard to make into competition for the big fed, and now here come two guys (or three) guys who want to destroy it?

I guess they didn't say they were destroying it, I guess they just said they are taking the money of the younger stars that aren't on their level. It's sort of like introducing big fish into the small pond type storyline.

I think the best way to explain this is that Vince Russo went out with a rage, and hired Randy Savage, Kevin Nash & Scott Hall in because after all these years of trying to push new talent, he's been forced out, so he's goin got destroy what he started. I think a new name is in need for htis group, and not something like the "National world Order", something more original. I would like it if BG James & Billy Gunn joined the stable, leaving Konnan & Ron Killings alone (unless they allowed Konnan in). I don't think it should be flooding with members, but maybe just 5 or 6 guys.

Judging by the reports, it seems Scott Hall is remotivated, so it should be itneresting to see what he can do.
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Well if you ask me that ppv was more entertaining then alot of the WWE ppvs that have happened....not counting wrestlemania.
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man it sounds a whole lot better than I thought it wouda been.
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I fear for TNA, I hope Nash, Hall and Savage can generate plenty of money otherwise TNA are fucked - unless they are working for free.
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Oh yeah and it sounded like it was a great event, I'm considering buying it. I think TNA can be pleased with what they've done.
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Woah, didn't realize this last night when I was posting the results, but Fk'n Williams hit the Destroyer of the turnbuckle.
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Woah, didn't realize this last night when I was posting the results, but Fk'n Williams hit the Destroyer of the turnbuckle.
well he jumped off it and landed it...so I guess in a way it was off the turnbuckle.....it was bad ass non the less.
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well he jumped off it and landed it...so I guess in a way it was off the turnbuckle.....it was bad ass non the less.
Was it a sunset flip into the Destroyer?
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Was it a sunset flip into the Destroyer?
It actually looked like it was going to be that way, but he hoped off, and landed with Styles head between his legs, before nailing it, almost as quickly as he landed
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It actually looked like it was going to be that way, but he hoped off, and landed with Styles head between his legs, before nailing it, almost as quickly as he landed
That is one of the greatest ways to apply a finishing move I have ever heard.
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The start of that match sounds good as well.
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Yeah, he jumped off, while Styles came running in and was doubled over, He jumps and lands with his legs around styles head, before hoping into the Canadian Destroyer, with maybe a half second delay between the jumps
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But I'm actually glad a little with how the PPV ended and how the group of Hall, Nash and Jarrett called out anyone from the TNA Locker Room to be answered by AJ Styles, I actually marked out like Crazy, since he is in most people's mind, the Franchise of TNA and if TNA keeps going like this, will be a household name
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I like Jarret. I think he keeps things interesting has the champ. I also like is little catch phrase.

Welcome to planet Jarret
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But I'm actually glad a little with how the PPV ended and how the group of Hall, Nash and Jarrett called out anyone from the TNA Locker Room to be answered by AJ Styles, I actually marked out like Crazy, since he is in most people's mind, the Franchise of TNA and if TNA keeps going like this, will be a household name
Bingo. That's what's going to make this work. When I heard that AJ Styles was the one to come out, I said to myself, "They booked that perfectly." He got some offense in which was great too.

Now, I would hold off with AJ/Jarrett until like FEB/MAR, but since TNA is realy on a short term basis right now, they are most likely going with that for the DEC PPV. They could do a Sting/Hogan deal out of the Jarrett/AJ feud, which would be so much better.
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I really like the sounds of this PPV. If they release it on DVD, I'd certainly buy it (if they released it over in Australia). I would like to see them have a bonus disk which has the greatest matches in each man's career (Nash, Hall, Savage, Jarret), and maybe the Impact! after.
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:10 PM   #29
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Cool, looks like they're doing the six man, which I thought they should do at the next PPV.
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After Victory Road last night, Randy Savage got in the ring and challenged Jeff Jarrett and the Outsiders to a match. The three backed down and Savage said there was a new sheriff in TNA and stood next to 3 Live Kru and AJ Styles.

Kevin Nash and Scott Hall are both scheduled for the Impact! tapings this week.

The main event of the 2/5 Turning Point PPV is scheduled to be Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall & Kevin Nash vs. Randy Savage, Monty Brown & AJ Styles
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:41 PM   #30
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The main event of the 2/5 Turning Point PPV is scheduled to be Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall & Kevin Nash vs. Randy Savage, Monty Brown & AJ Styles
Holy crap...that sounds like an awesome ppv. God im actually anticipating TNA's next ppv more than im anticipating WWEs. For some reason I was expecting Hardy to be there instead of Monty Brown.
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:11 PM   #31
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God, TNA just went from a 4 to an 8 with yesterday's PPV in my eyes
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:55 PM   #33
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Agreed, with TNA. When I saw Monty Brown, I was kind of like "Hell Yeah" as well. Him and Styles are the two most over faces. Hardy's Pop has seemed to have dropped off a little.

This is the very first time that I am looking foward to Impact. And I expect a lot of others to feel the same way. I just hope they do the Hall/Nash/Jarrett segment a little later because I don't get home until 3:30.

But I'm thinking they will go the Nitro way and do an interview at the BEG of the show and then have them appear in the backstage during the middle of the show and then have them do something at the end. I kind of like that booking with the top heel group.
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Yeah I am actually excited for Impact. But last time I watched, Monty Brown was a heel...so it looks as though he is face now.

Also, they had some NASCAR dude on too. Kind of a turn off I must say.
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Old 11-08-2004, 08:14 PM   #35
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The six-man looks interesting, but I'd rather see Macho Man as the match's Special Guest Referee. Actually I'd rather see The Outsiders (Nash, Hall & Jarret) vs. Monty Brown, BG James & Ron Killings. Konnan is "injured" by the heels after Macho Man betrays them as Special Guest Referee and costs them the titles to Nash & Hall.

In the main event of Turning Point, Macho man is the special guest ref, but out runs Billy Gunn and gives him the Fame Asser! Fame Assers for all the heels, and Billy G. puts BG James on Nash. 1-2-3. Billy Gunn is here, The Outlaws are back and the faces prove that they aren't gonig to go down to The Outsiders without a fight. The Outlaws then do a heelish thing and "injure" Macho Man as a warning that TNA is theirs.
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Someone wanna count how many blown spots and/or recycled moves Hardy used in the ladder match?

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