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Old 12-16-2004, 03:11 PM   #41
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:15 PM   #42
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T&A doesn't sell unless you are talking about an 80's pornedie (in the late 80's tons of crappy R rated comedies featuring T&A and some naked boobies surfaced, they are known as Pornedies).

Sex on the other hand does sell. Though, with wrestling, and the demographic they are after, it isn't just barely dressed women running around, it is much more complicated than that. Instead, they need more hot dudes running around getting the girls, making the dudes at home get jealous, and start working out and all the jazz. Then realize that they neither have the time nor the money (both being the same in some cases) to achieve the level of manliness one Randy Orton or Edge might have. So they kids at home figure, well if I can't be has hot as Christian, I might as well start liking him cause that hottest girl in my class likes him, so if I like him too, we have something to talk about, and I might get and date, blah blah blah. So, wrestling doesn't need to bring in more women on the show, they just need a small base of girls to watch wrestling so an even large base of males will watch it and get hooked.

All half naked girls hitting each other with pillows is going to do is bring in 40 year old horn dogs, and drive away the chicks that would otherwise watch the show.

They need to start thinking like an 18 to 34 year old male who can't get anything, i.e., like me. Or copy MTV, who tells that demographic what to think. Maybe a few wrestlers with the new rock star mentality of not washing or grooming and constantly whining about how everything sucks...you know kinda like how Edge is now, but he needs to get his hair messier.

So, somewhere in that rambling, I think my point is, get a small group of girls in the age range of 16-22 to watch WWE's product, and you will hook the 18-34 age range of males.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:48 PM   #43
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:29 PM   #44
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T&A doesn't sell unless you are talking about an 80's pornedie (in the late 80's tons of crappy R rated comedies featuring T&A and some naked boobies surfaced, they are known as Pornedies).

Sex on the other hand does sell. Though, with wrestling, and the demographic they are after, it isn't just barely dressed women running around, it is much more complicated than that. Instead, they need more hot dudes running around getting the girls, making the dudes at home get jealous, and start working out and all the jazz. Then realize that they neither have the time nor the money (both being the same in some cases) to achieve the level of manliness one Randy Orton or Edge might have. So they kids at home figure, well if I can't be has hot as Christian, I might as well start liking him cause that hottest girl in my class likes him, so if I like him too, we have something to talk about, and I might get and date, blah blah blah. So, wrestling doesn't need to bring in more women on the show, they just need a small base of girls to watch wrestling so an even large base of males will watch it and get hooked.

All half naked girls hitting each other with pillows is going to do is bring in 40 year old horn dogs, and drive away the chicks that would otherwise watch the show.

They need to start thinking like an 18 to 34 year old male who can't get anything, i.e., like me. Or copy MTV, who tells that demographic what to think. Maybe a few wrestlers with the new rock star mentality of not washing or grooming and constantly whining about how everything sucks...you know kinda like how Edge is now, but he needs to get his hair messier.

So, somewhere in that rambling, I think my point is, get a small group of girls in the age range of 16-22 to watch WWE's product, and you will hook the 18-34 age range of males.
That actually sounds good.

I'm surprised how much of a female fanbase Randy Orton has gotten. They should use him for publicity on shows that teenage girls in America watch, to do publicity. If Orton came over and did a segment on Rove Live here, it could really help Australian viewing in Australia, as well.

I think marketting their wrestlers is much better than marketting their "not-even-in-fixed-role" divas. The One brings up a good point, sex does sell, but one difference between Sable and Candace is that Sable had a purpose in the wrestling ring, even if it was just serving as a valet to Marc Mero and Triple H.

If Candace did that, while training to be a wrestler off-screen, then I would have absolutely no problem with it. It's not the underlying purpose they have to hiring these women, it's the fact that they've sacrificed in more important areas that I think will hinder their profits more than aid them.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:46 PM   #45
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the problem with WWE right now is that they are lookin at the now. Not at the longevity of it. They are not lookin gat the future. They think that hiring all these divas and firing all the good diva wrestlers is a good thing. In the future it will bite them and bite them hard and they would wish that they would have kept Gail Kim, even Jazz. Cause those new divas they hired are going to wear thin and noone will care about them after a couple of months, if even that long.

that was the problem with WCW before it crashed. They focused on the now and not on the future.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:45 PM   #46
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the problem with WWE right now is that they are lookin at the now. Not at the longevity of it. They are not lookin gat the future. They think that hiring all these divas and firing all the good diva wrestlers is a good thing. In the future it will bite them and bite them hard and they would wish that they would have kept Gail Kim, even Jazz. Cause those new divas they hired are going to wear thin and noone will care about them after a couple of months, if even that long.

that was the problem with WCW before it crashed. They focused on the now and not on the future.
Exactly. How long will it be before Candace decides to go do movies again, or Roewena decides wrestling isn't for her?
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Old 12-17-2004, 11:35 AM   #47
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Exactly. How long will it be before Candace decides to go do movies again, or Roewena decides wrestling isn't for her?

Good point as well.
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Old 12-17-2004, 03:21 PM   #48
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Yeah. T&A doesn't sell.

And those shows on TV are just incidental.
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Old 12-17-2004, 03:22 PM   #49
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Brittney Spears sells records based on her musical skills and her vast intellect.
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Brittney Spears sells records based on her musical skills and her vast intellect.

well that is partly true. he has the intellect to wear the low cuts and show some clevage. She has the intellect to do 24 hour weddings to get noticed.

it's just that in wrestling.. it should hold as much prominence in the ring as it does.
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:56 PM   #51
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No, but it does, because horny fanboys love it.

Does it significantly impact ratings? Can't tell ya, don't care. Sex Sells video games, sex sells music, sex sell the news. Why should there be some sacred protection for wrestling?

And for the record, I doubt Brittney's smart enough to wipe her ass without a teleprompter and 3 "dry runs." There's a difference between the intellect of the marketer and the intellect of the slap of meat being sold.
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No, but it does, because horny fanboys love it.

Does it significantly impact ratings? Can't tell ya, don't care. Sex Sells video games, sex sells music, sex sell the news. Why should there be some sacred protection for wrestling?

And for the record, I doubt Brittney's smart enough to wipe her ass without a teleprompter and 3 "dry runs." There's a difference between the intellect of the marketer and the intellect of the slap of meat being sold.
While sex does sell, does it draw? Will anyone come to the WWE for some women that are no different to others in more obvious forms of T&A?
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:23 PM   #53
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While sex does sell, does it draw? Will anyone come to the WWE for some women that are no different to others in more obvious forms of T&A?
Actually, women fighting, even if it's lame catfighting, attracts interest. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it's true. Of course, the fact that most of the women in wrestling are UGLY doesn't help.
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