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Old 01-10-2005, 06:57 AM   #1
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Manning blows in big games.

My Pats 27- Colts 21

Manning can't win in New England! Nobody can! Regardless of Seymour and Law.

You say this is a tougher Colt team. Well we beat them in week 1 and we'll do it again.

Dillon > than any running back.
 
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Dillon > than any running back.
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Dillon is the huge key, the Pats need 8-10min drives and keep the colts off the field.

Also, the weather will be a factor, right now it calls for Cloudy and come game time temp should be in the high teens. Which really isn't that bad.

If it's colder or snows or rains, that all favors the pats, a bad field slows down the Colts, who clearly play better in a dome. The ground hurts more when it's cold, it's harder to catch when it's cold, etc... etc...
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Dillon is the huge key, the Pats need 8-10min drives and keep the colts off the field.

Also, the weather will be a factor, right now it calls for Cloudy and come game time temp should be in the high teens. Which really isn't that bad.

If it's colder or snows or rains, that all favors the pats, a bad field slows down the Colts, who clearly play better in a dome. The ground hurts more when it's cold, it's harder to catch when it's cold, etc... etc...
I agree, I just think that the NE offense is not much better than the Broncos offense, it is probably worse, and that the NE defense how it is right now can't stop Manning. He has a ton of momentum and the Pats are a battered team coming off a bye.
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I agree, I just think that the NE offense is not much better than the Broncos offense, it is probably worse, and that the NE defense how it is right now can't stop Manning. He has a ton of momentum and the Pats are a battered team coming off a bye.
I think the NE Offense is better then Denver for one reason.

Brady v. Plummer.

Plummer makes horrible decisions, Brady usual does that once a year (see: Miami game).

Either way, I think it will be close, I still think the Pats can win, I just wouldn't put money on it w/ the injuries and the weather not looking too bad.

on a side note, you'd figure these two teams wouldn't give any bulleten board material...

forgot the the colts have a "stupid kicker"... he went off last night how the Pats can't win w/o Law and next Sunday the Colts will be coming home and getting ready for the AFC championship game.
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It all depends on how NE's defense plays against the Colt's O.

Whoever wins that battle, wins the game, period.
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heard some interesting stats about the Pats w/o Law, not as bad as I thought, actually better.

Plus, the Pats are one of the lowest in offensive turnovers and the Colts are one of the lowest in defensive forced turnovers... so that's in the Pats favor... can't wait, should be an awesome game!
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YOU FRIGGIN MORON! The Colts led the league in forced turnovers and led the league in turnover ratio at ( +19)

Get new stats. After we beat your ass preferably.
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YOU FRIGGIN MORON! The Colts led the league in forced turnovers and led the league in turnover ratio at ( +19)

Get new stats. After we beat your ass preferably.
No idea where they got those stats on the radio, I never looked them up, but the Colts were one of the best at turnovers.
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And yes i will be all over the place if we win. ANd regular field turf doesnt slow us down. Check our road record. These rumors you Pats fans put out about the colts.. being soft, regular turf lows us ect.. is absolute comedey.
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And yes i will be all over the place if we win. ANd regular field turf doesnt slow us down. Check our road record. These rumors you Pats fans put out about the colts.. being soft, regular turf lows us ect.. is absolute comedey.
They're 5-3 on the road and half of those were probably played on turf.
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And yes i will be all over the place if we win. ANd regular field turf doesnt slow us down. Check our road record. These rumors you Pats fans put out about the colts.. being soft, regular turf lows us ect.. is absolute comedey.
It's one thing to be a fan, another to be just a complete moron who is blind by hometown loayalty.

Look at your road record.

Colts Avg 36.125 pts scored at home
Colts Ave 29.125 pts scored on the road

"Field Turf doesn't slow you down".

Sure, when it's 70 degrees and sunny.

Try rain, snow, cold, that all has an effect.

Seriously, get your head out of your ass.

Baltimore, SD, New England, all close games, all teams w/ good defenses.
All teams that the Colts has trouble with, one was a loss, 2 held them under 30points.
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Patriots offense is definetly better then the Broncos offense. I don't even know why you would say that. They got Brady, and Dillon is one of the best running backs in the NFL. Plus a shitload of capable WRs.

There defense will be alright, they always just do enough to win. Yeah, Palmer put up some numbers but what did Rudi Johnson do? Nothing. They shut down who they had to to win.

Colts fan you love to keep talking about stats and what happened here and there, Patriots aren't a stats team, they don't have a big play "showtime" QB, or huge stars on defense. They just play and win rings.
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Hahahaha.

The Colts are going to lose.

24 - 10
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Yeah, I thought the same thing about the Colts last year, when they played KC at Arrowhead.

Fucking Colts. I hope they lose

31-10. Pats.
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I wonder what kind of spread and over/under this game will get
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Colts over the Pats......For those who think Pats are unstoppable ,Just look at the Great Miami / New England game.....nuff said
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Colts over the Pats......For those who think Pats are unstoppable ,Just look at the Great Miami / New England game.....nuff said
Pats= undefeated at home.


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nuff said.


Does this take in the fact that some of New Englands Key Starters are injuried and wont be playing..



Also the weather is suppose to be nice in the upper thirties..So Manning will be playing Great.
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Also the weather is suppose to be nice in the upper thirties..So Manning will be playing Great.
Ok there Sean Salisburry...

Let's explain a few things about New England weather.

1) The weather people don't know what's actually going to happen most the time.

2) Yesterday was snow, sleet and rain, today rain, tomorrow calls for rain and then snow, Saturday partly cloudy and Sunday mostly cloudy.
They had pics of the field in the paper today, it looks like a swamp, there is no tarp and wont be, w/ the possible exception of 24hrs before kickoff which by league rules is when the NFL takes "control of the playing surface".
As for the temp, right now it says high of 33, low of 16. The kick off is scheduled for 4:45pm, it will probably be in the 20's and into the teens by the 2nd qtr.

The reason I called you Sean Salisburry, he was on ESPN going off about how it's going to be a nice sunny day, and someone finally explained to him in Foxboro, in January at 4:45pm, THERE IS NO SUN! official "Sunset time" for sunday calls for 4:40pm, then factor a cloudy day... and forget it, no sun, and it will be cold.

As I said, switch fields, and put this game in Indy and I'd pick the Colts. Or even make the field in good shape and the weather warmer... but this field is going to be the "12th man" in the same way the carpet/dome is the "12th man" for Indy.

So yeah, people keep spouting off about NE weather and most of them (See: Sean Salisbury for example) have no clue what they're talking about.
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Ok there Sean Salisburry...

Let's explain a few things about New England weather.

1) The weather people don't know what's actually going to happen most the time.

2) Yesterday was snow, sleet and rain, today rain, tomorrow calls for rain and then snow, Saturday partly cloudy and Sunday mostly cloudy.
They had pics of the field in the paper today, it looks like a swamp, there is no tarp and wont be, w/ the possible exception of 24hrs before kickoff which by league rules is when the NFL takes "control of the playing surface".
As for the temp, right now it says high of 33, low of 16. The kick off is scheduled for 4:45pm, it will probably be in the 20's and into the teens by the 2nd qtr.

The reason I called you Sean Salisburry, he was on ESPN going off about how it's going to be a nice sunny day, and someone finally explained to him in Foxboro, in January at 4:45pm, THERE IS NO SUN! official "Sunset time" for sunday calls for 4:40pm, then factor a cloudy day... and forget it, no sun, and it will be cold.

As I said, switch fields, and put this game in Indy and I'd pick the Colts. Or even make the field in good shape and the weather warmer... but this field is going to be the "12th man" in the same way the carpet/dome is the "12th man" for Indy.

So yeah, people keep spouting off about NE weather and most of them (See: Sean Salisbury for example) have no clue what they're talking about.
All I was saying is that there wont be rain or snow during the game and its going to be in the thirties...which you basically repeated. Rain is suppose to end tomorrow..I live about a hour from Pittsburgh and Cleveland the front of rain has already ended here and should by mid day tomorrow be finished through NE (the front is moveing at 60+mph) the feild may be wet but not frozen. Im sure the feild will be cleaned tomorrow after the rain stops and covered.
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Theres a lot more pressure on Manning now, just about everybody is expecting him to win this one, and if he loses it then the "Can't win the big game" thing will be bigger then ever.

If Payton can't win this week, I don't think he will ever win a Super Bowl, or at least for another 7-8 years. This is one of the best offenses ever this season, and it will probably never be this good again. That being said, they have a lot of these players locked up for quite a while now, so the defense won't be getting much better and the offense pretty much can't exceed this season. He would have to hope for like a John Elway scenario, wait until he is pretty much on a completely different team and then do it.
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Yeah looks at one game compared to the whole season
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It was a big game the defending superbowl champs tide with the best record of the season loses to the 2nd worst team in the NFL. The point being made is Pats can be stopped. Im not even bringing up the embarassing Steelers game either.
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I don't remember exactly, but its not like the Pats needed to win that game. They obviously came in unprepared and unmotivated while the Dolphins came in as pumped up as ever. It doesn't mean much.
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I dont know how you go in unprepared against the dolphins. They played like a Jr. High football team. It was more of a game for pride. It was also the first time Brady had been swatted down in 13 games.
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I dont know how you go in unprepared against the dolphins. They played like a Jr. High football team. It was more of a game for pride. It was also the first time Brady had been swatted down in 13 games.
Actually, the Phins played a great game and Brady played a horrible game.

The Pats still had plenty of chances to win, a game they lost by 1point that Brady thew I think 4 picks.

Brady has a bad game, a really, really bad game... he seems to average one horrible game a season (maybe 2).
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Didn't the Patriots have a bunch of injuries last year and still won the superbowl?
Maybe not as big as Law, and of course it'll be a factor. But I jus love it when like if the Patriots lose it'll be because of Law and Seymore, big fuckin woop.
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Didn't the Patriots have a bunch of injuries last year and still won the superbowl?
Maybe not as big as Law, and of course it'll be a factor. But I jus love it when like if the Patriots lose it'll be because of Law and Seymore, big fuckin woop.
Who is saying thats the only reason they could possibly lose? They won a shitload of games without Law so obviously they are still pretty good.

BIG WHOOP though, One of the best CBs in the NFL, and one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL out for the game. BIG WHOOP.

People are ridiculous, just because you say somebody being out can be a factor in determining the game doesn't mean you are making excuses. I still think the Patriots will win without Law, they have been doing it all season. And the Patriots really didnt have any injuries last year. Except in the 2nd half of the Superbowl when both Harrison and Wilson got hurt.
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Didn't the Patriots have a bunch of injuries last year and still won the superbowl?
Maybe not as big as Law, and of course it'll be a factor. But I jus love it when like if the Patriots lose it'll be because of Law and Seymore, big fuckin woop.
Bo, they didn't have a bunch of injuries.

Both starting CB's are gone (personally, I don't think Poole is a huge loss, I think he played over his head last year... )

Pro-Bowl DT injured, might play, if he does it's the knee he wont be 100%.

It's not an excuse, it's a reason for a team not being as good as when they're 100%.

Let me ask, if Manning blows out his ACL in practice this week, would it be an excuse if the Colts didn't beat the Pats or a reason?

It would be a reason, any team that has tops players go down to injury isn't as good as they are healthy.
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So your saying 29 points per game on the road isnt good?? And what does stats like how many points per game have anything to do with how fast we are? I'm willing to bet most teams in the nfl points per game on the road is lower then at home. That has nothing to do with how fast we are.

Lets go ahead and get teh excuses out of the way too. Lets here about your injuries. Lets here all the good ones. Cause when there start flying out of your mouth after we burn foxboro down, we'll be flying to pittsburgh or Indiana.
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I'm telling you guys. The Colts defense are gunna step up huge. They made a statement against the Broncos. I think they'll make a bigger statement. Tho i'm not sure about the injury report yet. I know Robert mathis and Rob Morris were injured in last weeks game. That could suck. Freeney is gunna be huge. I can feel it.

Honestly. I'm not sure the Colts will score a bunch of points. Patriots have great linebackers that always give us trouble. Tipping passes . Blitzing. Teddy Bruschi is the devel. Always getting somet type of interception in these games between us. I seriously think when we win , its gunna be because of the defense
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uh-huh. You are so weird. Our defense. lol that made my day a whole lot better.
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I ment the season for the dolphins...but yes Brady did have a bad game...a really bad game. The dolphins actually won that game in the final 2 minutes. But you gotta think it wasnt just Brady. Dolphins have a horrible offence and if I remember correctly Chambers was even out that game, So the Pats Defence should have torn them up easily.
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I ment the season for the dolphins...but yes Brady did have a bad game...a really bad game. The dolphins actually won that game in the final 2 minutes. But you gotta think it wasnt just Brady. Dolphins have a horrible offence and if I remember correctly Chambers was even out that game, So the Pats Defence should have torn them up easily.
Yeah, honestly Brady could have won the game... that int he threw when he couldn't see was stupid.

He had 4 picks on the day.

What really burnt the pats, could come to haunt them Sunday also, Troy Brown got burnt on Defense for I think two TD's.

Carson Palmer is the only QB who has thrown for more then 2 TD's and I think 300yds on the Pats this year. They went 8-1 w/o Law (Miami being the loss).

I really expect a good close game.

Key for the Colts is as usualy score early, get a lead... if the Colts get a 14pt lead early, I don't see the Pats catching them.

The Key for the Pats in running the ball, control the clock and keep the Colts offense off the field.
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Hey Rectal, I just want to make sure we still have our Avator bet.

I won't put cash on this one, but I'll risk the Avator!

and I wont change the Avator early like a certain web-site welching owner... :P
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Yah we still on. But i'm not exactly sure how to make a avatar still havent set down and taken look at that yet.
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in the user panel, you just upload it.

See, I though you would have said...

"I don't know how to set mine, but it doesn't matter because the Colts are going to win"

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