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Old 04-22-2005, 10:45 PM   #41
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Oh, come on, Trance ain't pure crap.

There's some vomit mixed in.
Progressive House> any form of music
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Old 04-22-2005, 10:46 PM   #42
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and Kane you don't even know what Trance is so shut the fuck up
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Old 04-22-2005, 11:14 PM   #43
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as opposed to shit that's nobody given a fuck about in 20 years.
Wow. You really are a bitter little wanker.
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:37 AM   #44
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o.k i'm hardly a wanker. i'm the anti-wanker
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:58 AM   #45
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HArdly.

Besides, like anyone remember trance tunes from 3 years ago, much less 20.
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:03 AM   #46
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I thought every trance song was the same...
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:08 AM   #47
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I thought every trance song was the same...
More or less.

Droning beat, splash on sound effects, rinse and repeat.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:37 AM   #48
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HArdly.

Besides, like anyone remember trance tunes from 3 years ago, much less 20.
according to who? of course a fucking rock or alt fan isn't going to remember trance music from three years ago, just like i can't name hardly any country songs.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:38 AM   #49
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More or less.

Droning beat, splash on sound effects, rinse and repeat.
lol and all rock doesn't?
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:05 AM   #50
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Your argument is flawed, Gertner.
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:30 AM   #51
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:31 AM   #52
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and Kane you don't even know what Trance is so shut the fuck up
The death rattles of a retard with no argument.

Yes, I know what trance is.
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:32 AM   #53
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according to who? of course a fucking rock or alt fan isn't going to remember trance music from three years ago, just like i can't name hardly any country songs.
According to who? I think it's funny that you're all "Nobody remembers that shit" and then when someone says the same thing, you're all "well, that's different."
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:33 AM   #54
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lol and all rock doesn't?
Wait, so all rock has droning beats and sound effects?

Wow. Why didn't I get the memo here?
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Old 04-24-2005, 12:37 PM   #56
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:11 PM   #57
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Wait, so all rock has droning beats and sound effects?

Wow. Why didn't I get the memo here?

cause all guiter riffs, drums, sound sooooo different. what's the difference btw nickelback theory of a deadman, 3 doors down? The name.
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:12 PM   #58
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The death rattles of a retard with no argument.

Yes, I know what trance is.
name a trance artist Kane.
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:13 PM   #59
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According to who? I think it's funny that you're all "Nobody remembers that shit" and then when someone says the same thing, you're all "well, that's different."
i never said "nobody remembers" I said nobody cares. READ!!!!!
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:14 PM   #60
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:59 PM   #61
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there are sooooooo many generic throw away rock, alt, nu metal bands that sound the same. I guess if I wasn't a fan of dance music i'd say the same as well.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:43 PM   #63
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That, and the singer from 3 Doors Down doesn't sound anything like Nickelback or Theory of a Dead Man.
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name a trance artist Kane.
That would be simple. You named several yourself in the past.
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i never said "nobody remembers" I said nobody cares. READ!!!!!
So did I. I miswrote only on the second time, and you jump on it like an anal cunt. Of course, if I was defending shitty music, I'd probably have to resort to the same.
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lol like you wouldn't have done that if i did that. lol you would have busted a nut and replied to my post 200 miles an hour
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cause all guiter riffs, drums, sound sooooo different. what's the difference btw nickelback theory of a deadman, 3 doors down? The name.
No, there's the style, in one case, the tuning, there's the different styles of lyrics, there the fact that not all of them just play a single drum loop. There's the arrangements. One actually has a southern rock sound.

Of course, you're trying to select from a narrow field to try and make a point for all rock, trying to pick apart some of the most linear pop of the genre. But that's okay. I'll forgive you because you have no argument, and this is probably the best you can do.

Oh, but wait. I only know this from my deep seated devotion to Theory of a Deadman...

Which would be correct if I was a listener. I can also break down the different genres RDD listens to, and I'm not a fan of them. Or Industrial, Goth, hell, I can even analyse country music by ear.

I know my shit, and sadly, you probably only know your own little shit genre. And not very well, I reckon.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:53 PM   #68
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there are sooooooo many generic throw away rock, alt, nu metal bands that sound the same. I guess if I wasn't a fan of dance music i'd say the same as well.
It's only because they're trying to sell this stuff (The stuff you're using as examples) to fans of shitty music (Dance, trance, house, trip hop).
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No, there's the style, in one case, the tuning, there's the different styles of lyrics, there the fact that not all of them just play a single drum loop. There's the arrangements. One actually has a southern rock sound.

Of course, you're trying to select from a narrow field to try and make a point for all rock, trying to pick apart some of the most linear pop of the genre. But that's okay. I'll forgive you because you have no argument, and this is probably the best you can do.

Oh, but wait. I only know this from my deep seated devotion to Theory of a Deadman...

Which would be correct if I was a listener. I can also break down the different genres RDD listens to, and I'm not a fan of them. Or Industrial, Goth, hell, I can even analyse country music by ear.

I know my shit, and sadly, you probably only know your own little shit genre. And not very well, I reckon.
yeah i don't know my genre, i don't know the different beats that distinguish the different styles, or how I can pick out a tiny fuck up in a mix, or that I can listen to a song for 5 seconds and tell you what style it is. and it is NOT just a single drum loop.
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lol like you wouldn't have done that if i did that. lol you would have busted a nut and replied to my post 200 miles an hour
I wouldn't have cared enough to look back in the first place. The only thing I can remember about this thread beyond what I've said in the last couple of replies is that you're a wanker trying to argue that your ephemeral crap is somehow valid and worthy of the praise you heap upon it.

The difference? People do remember rock hits. Even rap fans can name some 20 year old tunes. Outside of your own little genre, nobody's gonna remember this shit 2 years from now, much less 20 years. It's hard to fathom, but rock actually has mainstream appeal and is remembered. You're listening to Video game BGMs, and in denial that people will give a shit.
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It's only because they're trying to sell this stuff (The stuff you're using as examples) to fans of shitty music (Dance, trance, house, trip hop).
because so many people that are into generic rock music, nu metal are into dance music kane,.
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I wouldn't have cared enough to look back in the first place. The only thing I can remember about this thread beyond what I've said in the last couple of replies is that you're a wanker trying to argue that your ephemeral crap is somehow valid and worthy of the praise you heap upon it.

The difference? People do remember rock hits. Even rap fans can name some 20 year old tunes. Outside of your own little genre, nobody's gonna remember this shit 2 years from now, much less 20 years. It's hard to fathom, but rock actually has mainstream appeal and is remembered. You're listening to Video game BGMs, and in denial that people will give a shit.
and dance music doesn't? Find me people who don't know "Sandstorm" by Darude, or "Something" by Lasqo (both songs I dislike). It's way more mainstream than you think it is.
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yeah i don't know my genre, i don't know the different beats that distinguish the different styles, or how I can pick out a tiny fuck up in a mix, or that I can listen to a song for 5 seconds and tell you what style it is. and it is NOT just a single drum loop.
You're right. You don't know any of that.

Apparently not if you're arguing 3DD is the same as Nippleback.

and I bet that five second decision is "dance music" or "something else."

You've demonstrated a lack of a discriminating ear already.

But feel free to get back to me when you've had 5 years of theory, 6 years of ear training, and a combined 30 years total musicianship with various instruments...

...And I won't go into my production history...
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No, there's the style, in one case, the tuning, there's the different styles of lyrics, there the fact that not all of them just play a single drum loop. There's the arrangements. One actually has a southern rock sound.

Of course, you're trying to select from a narrow field to try and make a point for all rock, trying to pick apart some of the most linear pop of the genre. But that's okay. I'll forgive you because you have no argument, and this is probably the best you can do.

Oh, but wait. I only know this from my deep seated devotion to Theory of a Deadman...

Which would be correct if I was a listener. I can also break down the different genres RDD listens to, and I'm not a fan of them. Or Industrial, Goth, hell, I can even analyse country music by ear.

I know my shit, and sadly, you probably only know your own little shit genre. And not very well, I reckon.
also, there's a lot of different styles of dance music as well Kane.

Detroit House (Derrick May) has a distinct sound, as opposed to Acid House. Plus there is quite a bit of vocals in Dance Music.
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You're right. You don't know any of that.

Apparently not if you're arguing 3DD is the same as Nippleback.

and I bet that five second decision is "dance music" or "something else."

You've demonstrated a lack of a discriminating ear already.

But feel free to get back to me when you've had 5 years of theory, 6 years of ear training, and a combined 30 years total musicianship with various instruments...

...And I won't go into my production history...
dude, i was talking about distinuighing between dance songs. And when did I ever question your music knowledge. You are a very knowledgable person Kane, but when it comes to Kane music I do know my stuff.
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because so many people that are into generic rock music, nu metal are into dance music kane,.
My bad. I forgot you knew more than the people marketing the music.
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and dance music doesn't? Find me people who don't know "Sandstorm" by Darude, or "Something" by Lasqo (both songs I dislike). It's way more mainstream than you think it is.
Yup. They're the most famous songs ever, becuase you say so, when a blind poll would prove you wrong.
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I'm not saying they are the most famous, I'm just picking out songs that people would know
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also, there's a lot of different styles of dance music as well Kane.

Detroit House (Derrick May) has a distinct sound, as opposed to Acid House. Plus there is quite a bit of vocals in Dance Music.
Wow. And that's the best "difference" you can come up with.

LOOK! I GAVE IT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SET OF LOOPS AND MODULATED TO A DIFFERENT KEY! WERE NOT THE SAME SONG! :rofL:
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