The NBA PlayOffs - Page 2

**Crazy88s** · 04-24-2005, 02:31 AM

I don't deny the Pistons are a good team and they are the closest thing in the east that even compares to a team in the west, but the west is stacked with teams with all kinds of chemistry. The Pistons are good, I just don't think they are as great as last year. Last year they were scary. This year i can only compare them to the Trailblazers when they had all the talent and just teased us on getting to the championship. Good team, just not great. Pistons against anyone in the west, will lose in 6. If its the Spurs or I sure hope its not Phoenix, it will only go five.

**PureHatred** · 04-24-2005, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by loopydate

That's what everyone said last year. And this year's Pistons are better than last year's.

The West isn't as dominant as it has been in recent years, Crazy88s.

And any team that returns all five starters from the team that just won the NBA title is, by definition, a great team.

**Ruien** · 04-24-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy88s

I don't deny the Pistons are a good team and they are the closest thing in the east that even compares to a team in the west, but the west is stacked with teams with all kinds of chemistry. The Pistons are good, I just don't think they are as great as last year. Last year they were scary. This year i can only compare them to the Trailblazers when they had all the talent and just teased us on getting to the championship. Good team, just not great. Pistons against anyone in the west, will lose in 6. If its the Spurs or I sure hope its not Phoenix, it will only go five.

Pistions, Miama, Baby Bulls, New Jersy (with Richard Jefferson), and Boston.

Suns, Spurs, Denver, Mavs, and Houston.

All the rest suck on both sides.

You do realize East and West both have good teams now? It is not totally 1 sided anymore.

**Crazy88s** · 04-25-2005, 02:32 AM

OK you guys got me. The east and west are composed of good teams, all good in their own right. The east is more of a run and gun with the exception of the pistons which can do both fast pace and half court. The west teams can all play half court but the mavs and the suns can do both. Only thing about those 2 is neither one have d. Spurs disappointed me tonight but I did say Spurs in 6, meaning they would have to lose 2. Just wish it wouldn't have been the first one, and at home at that.

**Splaya** · 04-25-2005, 11:30 AM

Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

**DaveWadding** · 04-25-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Splaya

Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

Yeah but Shaq and Wade might be as good as the Wallaces, Tayshaun "Aw fuck, we should have taken Carmelo, god damnit" Prince, and Phantom of the Court Rip COMBINED.

**Splaya** · 04-25-2005, 12:03 PM

Wadding have you looked at stats otherwise than what Sportscenter shows you. Tayshaun is not just a defender now but a scorer. And yeah Melo was taken a year after Tayshaun. Your thinking of Darko, dipshit. Tayshaun vs Melo anyday of the week, Tayshaun wins. And Rip. Rip? Rip hits big shots all the time. Wade and Shaq are going to be in for a rough ride when they make it to the ECF

**PureHatred** · 04-25-2005, 12:56 PM

I think what he was referring to is the fact that the reason the Pistons drafted Darko was because they already had Melo playing the 3. That was their justification on draft day.

And the Heat may only have two name players, but their secondary guys do an excellent job of playing their roles. Last year, the Pistons let Shaq get his and shut down everyone else on the Lakers. With as many shooters as the Heat have, I don't see that happening this year.

It will be interesting to see who gets Billups, though, because right now Jones is playing the point and he would get ate up.

**Splaya** · 04-25-2005, 01:44 PM

Tell me you are saying Jones would get ate up and not Billups

**The Icon of Elisim** · 04-25-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding

Yeah but Shaq and Wade might be as good as the Wallaces, Tayshaun "Aw fuck, we should have taken Carmelo, god damnit" Prince, and Phantom of the Court Rip COMBINED.

Prince fits in much better on that Detroit team than Melo would. When Melo isn't hitting shots on offensive he just stops playing defense. And if you want to compare how Carmelo and Prince have done in the playoffs, Melo has been a bit of a choker while Prince has steped up huge in the clutch (without his block on Reggie Miller last year the Pistons don't win the championship)

**The Outlaw** · 04-25-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Splaya

Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

I'm not saying Miami will beat Detroit, but you need to look at their (Heat) depth chart sonny.

**BCWWF** · 04-25-2005, 03:50 PM

First of all Splaya, they picked Darko instead of Melo because they already had Tayshaun, so stop calling DaveWadding a dipshit.

Second of all, the East is still inflated and you are stupid if you can't see that. On the surface it may look like the top of the East is as good as the top of the West, but its not, simply because the West has better teams 1-15.

I will say that there were three teams in the West that were awful, those being New Orleans, Utah, and Portland. Besides that, every team in the West is competition, you can't write off the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, Wolves, Grizzlies, Nuggets, anybody.

Now you go over to the East, and instead of having three teams of nothing, they have three teams that are good, a few teams that can compete, and a bunch of shit. Atlanta, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto, Orlando, Cleveland, even New Jersey and Philly can be included in there.

You have to realize that if the Timberwolves or Lakers were in the Eastern Conference, they would be in the playoffs right now and Philadelphia and New Jersey wouldn't. It's harder competition, so a team with an identical record in the East and West, you can put money that the Western team is better.

Finally, take a look at Miami's record. 59-23, their record against the Eastern Conference was 41-11, that means that when they faced Western Conference teams they were 18-12. OVER HALF OF THE HEATS LOSSES WERE TO WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, AND THEY PLAYED 22 MORE GAMES AGAINST EASTERN TEAMS.

It is rediculous and stupid for anybody to try to claim parity just because losing teams didn't make the playoffs.

**BCWWF** · 04-25-2005, 03:54 PM

Nowthen I will go into my prediction. Honestly, I think that Detroit has a better overall team then Miami. These are the only two teams in the East with a legit post presence, one is the most dominant player in the league and one has two of the top defensive big men in the league.

I think that when it comes down to it, in the playoffs and under current conditions, the Pistons would win. I don't think Shaq is playing 100% right now and by the time they meet he could be in even worse condition, and even after that the Pistons just clog you up on defense.

Regardless, I think a Western team will win in the end, but Detroit and Miami are the only teams in the East with a legit chance of winning while there are probably six in the West that do.

**Ruien** · 04-25-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

First of all Splaya, they picked Darko instead of Melo because they already had Tayshaun, so stop calling DaveWadding a dipshit.

Second of all, the East is still inflated and you are stupid if you can't see that. On the surface it may look like the top of the East is as good as the top of the West, but its not, simply because the West has better teams 1-15.

I will say that there were three teams in the West that were awful, those being New Orleans, Utah, and Portland. Besides that, every team in the West is competition, you can't write off the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, Wolves, Grizzlies, Nuggets, anybody.

Now you go over to the East, and instead of having three teams of nothing, they have three teams that are good, a few teams that can compete, and a bunch of shit. Atlanta, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto, Orlando, Cleveland, even New Jersey and Philly can be included in there.

You have to realize that if the Timberwolves or Lakers were in the Eastern Conference, they would be in the playoffs right now and Philadelphia and New Jersey wouldn't. It's harder competition, so a team with an identical record in the East and West, you can put money that the Western team is better.

Finally, take a look at Miami's record. 59-23, their record against the Eastern Conference was 41-11, that means that when they faced Western Conference teams they were 18-12. OVER HALF OF THE HEATS LOSSES WERE TO WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, AND THEY PLAYED 22 MORE GAMES AGAINST EASTERN TEAMS.

It is rediculous and stupid for anybody to try to claim parity just because losing teams didn't make the playoffs.

Please, read Dave's post. He was the one that mixed up Darko and Prince, Splaya was just telling him. That is all I read of your post, because you have no idea about sports.

**DaveWadding** · 04-25-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien

Please, read Dave's post. He was the one that mixed up Darko and Prince, Splaya was just telling him. That is all I read of your post, because you have no idea about sports.

I didn't mix ANYONE up. Which should pretty obvious because three INTELLIGENT people (TIOE, BCWWF, and PH) picked up on what I was trying to say, while two known mongoloids (yourself, splaya) did not.

**BCWWF** · 04-25-2005, 05:41 PM

Lol.

DaveWadding made a comment about the Pistons not taking Carmelo because they already had Tayshaun Prince, also a young small forward.

Splaya midunderstood what Dave was saying and pointed out that the Pistons took Darko, not Tayshaun, instead of Carmelo.

The Icon of Elism, PureHatred, and myself pointed out how he was misinformed.

Both you and Splaya look retarded for not only being wrong, but being pompous and gay about it.

**Splaya** · 04-25-2005, 06:56 PM

I am pompous cause Detroit will repeat

**BCWWF** · 04-25-2005, 07:36 PM

I think Detroit has a good chance of taking the East again aswell, but what we are talking about is how you and Ruien are acting like ass holes when you aren't even right

**MoRcHeEbA** · 04-25-2005, 10:38 PM

BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]

**Gonzo** · 04-25-2005, 10:52 PM

Slut.

**The Outlaw** · 04-26-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]

lol

**BCWWF** · 04-26-2005, 01:25 AM

T-Mac is a stud. I used to not like him and question his drive, but I think he has proven quite a bit this season.

RP · 04-26-2005, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]

Whoops! Pacers 82 Boston 79.

**DaveWadding** · 04-26-2005, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Whoops! Pacers 82 Boston 79.

You're a FUCKING IDIOT.

RP · 04-26-2005, 02:26 AM

Indiana matches up so horribly against Boston. That team is full of slashers and penatrators. We cant stop penatration at all . We get killed on offesive boards. I think we match up much better with Detroit or Miami.

**PureHatred** · 04-26-2005, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

T-Mac is a stud. I used to not like him and question his drive, but I think he has proven quite a bit this season.

Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. Dallas should've won that game. But TMac would not allow his team to fold. He psuhed Yao to a career game and then completely took over that game. Every time it seemed the Mavs were gonna pull away, Mac would hit these "ice water running through his veins" kind of shots.

And that look he gave after he hit the game winner....that "I just tore out your heart" scowl...priceless.

I picked the mavs, and they are a better team than they were last year(despite what Kenny & Chuck said, they do play D) but Houston is executing in the clutch. I honestly think that Avery Johnson ( a great coach who was the one who got through to that team about playing defense) doesn't have enough experience in close games. They had problems getting the ball to Dirk down the stretch, why not change tactics and find Finley?

Damn, I love the play-offs.

RP · 04-26-2005, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding

You're a FUCKING IDIOT.

Lets see if the Suns get out of the second round jackass. I doubt they will even get past Memphis.

**Nervous Ferret** · 04-26-2005, 02:33 AM

Rectal Pertruder, Do you act this fucking retarded away from your computer?

**BCWWF** · 04-26-2005, 12:28 PM

There is no doubt that the Suns beat Memphis, unless things go drastically different the West will be represented by Houston or Phoenix.

**Bad Guy** · 04-26-2005, 03:58 PM

Detroit v Houston finals.

Not sure who I'm taking yet.

**Nark Order** · 04-26-2005, 07:21 PM

Sac will beat Seattle but will fall soon after. And if they do somehow make it to the Western Conference finals The Suns (Who are going to win everything) will destroy them.

**Nark Order** · 04-26-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Lets see if the Suns get out of the second round jackass. I doubt they will even get past Memphis.

Are you joking? The Suns are going to rock ass this year. I'm predicting them to win it all this year.

**Bad Guy** · 04-26-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Lets see if the Suns get out of the second round jackass.

Whatever this joker is smoking, I want some of it right now. It has GOT to be some strong stuff.

**weather vane** · 04-26-2005, 10:57 PM

Celtics all the way baby. Get ready.

**The Icon of Elisim** · 04-26-2005, 11:24 PM

Just gotta say that Houston has been playing amazing in this series (about 20 times better than I expected) but anyone that thinks that they'll go to the finals is crazy. They don't have the front court depth to cover Amare and no matter how good Yao is playing right now, he doesn't have the conditioning to run up and down the floor for half a game.

I have to give respect to McGrady, the last two games he's played better than I've ever seen him play. I'd say its some of the best basketball I've ever seen (I'm still a relatively new fan of the league, only started watching in 2000 or so).

**Gonzo** · 04-26-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hurricane

Celtics all the way baby. Get ready.

Hell yeah mother fucker. Probably going to drop another game to Indy but they'll take the series in 6 I think. I hope too.

**Ruien** · 04-27-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim

Just gotta say that Houston has been playing amazing in this series (about 20 times better than I expected) but anyone that thinks that they'll go to the finals is crazy. They don't have the front court depth to cover Amare and no matter how good Yao is playing right now, he doesn't have the conditioning to run up and down the floor for half a game.

I have to give respect to McGrady, the last two games he's played better than I've ever seen him play. I'd say its some of the best basketball I've ever seen (I'm still a relatively new fan of the league, only started watching in 2000 or so).

He can match Amare, but then you have Marian. He can not match both.

**PureHatred** · 04-27-2005, 12:41 AM

Lotta people talking about how weak the Heat's bench was weak, looked very misinformed tonight.

They are role players who play their role perfectly.

And Zo might go through kidneys the way Nelly goes through Cristal, but if he plays like that through the playoff, Pat Riley gets his parade in downtonw Miami this year. Everyone loves the Wallace boys, but not even they can hang with Shaq AND a frisky Zo.

**SammyG** · 04-27-2005, 12:51 AM

Seattle lookin damn impressive today, maybe they stand a chance too

**The Icon of Elisim** · 04-27-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred

Lotta people talking about how weak the Heat's bench was weak, looked very misinformed tonight.

They are role players who play their role perfectly.

And Zo might go through kidneys the way Nelly goes through Cristal, but if he plays like that through the playoff, Pat Riley gets his parade in downtonw Miami this year. Everyone loves the Wallace boys, but not even they can hang with Shaq AND a frisky Zo.

Its easy for a bench of role players to look great when they are playing New Jersey. Wait until they have to face a real team.

04-24-2005, 02:31 AM	#41
Crazy88s Posts: 17	I don't deny the Pistons are a good team and they are the closest thing in the east that even compares to a team in the west, but the west is stacked with teams with all kinds of chemistry. The Pistons are good, I just don't think they are as great as last year. Last year they were scary. This year i can only compare them to the Trailblazers when they had all the talent and just teased us on getting to the championship. Good team, just not great. Pistons against anyone in the west, will lose in 6. If its the Spurs or I sure hope its not Phoenix, it will only go five.

04-25-2005, 02:32 AM	#44
Crazy88s Posts: 17	OK you guys got me. The east and west are composed of good teams, all good in their own right. The east is more of a run and gun with the exception of the pistons which can do both fast pace and half court. The west teams can all play half court but the mavs and the suns can do both. Only thing about those 2 is neither one have d. Spurs disappointed me tonight but I did say Spurs in 6, meaning they would have to lose 2. Just wish it wouldn't have been the first one, and at home at that.

04-25-2005, 11:30 AM	#45
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

04-25-2005, 12:03 PM	#47
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Wadding have you looked at stats otherwise than what Sportscenter shows you. Tayshaun is not just a defender now but a scorer. And yeah Melo was taken a year after Tayshaun. Your thinking of Darko, dipshit. Tayshaun vs Melo anyday of the week, Tayshaun wins. And Rip. Rip? Rip hits big shots all the time. Wade and Shaq are going to be in for a rough ride when they make it to the ECF

04-25-2005, 12:56 PM	#48
PureHatred Instant Credibility Posts: 2,979	I think what he was referring to is the fact that the reason the Pistons drafted Darko was because they already had Melo playing the 3. That was their justification on draft day. And the Heat may only have two name players, but their secondary guys do an excellent job of playing their roles. Last year, the Pistons let Shaq get his and shut down everyone else on the Lakers. With as many shooters as the Heat have, I don't see that happening this year. It will be interesting to see who gets Billups, though, because right now Jones is playing the point and he would get ate up.

04-25-2005, 01:44 PM	#49
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Tell me you are saying Jones would get ate up and not Billups

04-25-2005, 03:50 PM	#52
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	First of all Splaya, they picked Darko instead of Melo because they already had Tayshaun, so stop calling DaveWadding a dipshit. Second of all, the East is still inflated and you are stupid if you can't see that. On the surface it may look like the top of the East is as good as the top of the West, but its not, simply because the West has better teams 1-15. I will say that there were three teams in the West that were awful, those being New Orleans, Utah, and Portland. Besides that, every team in the West is competition, you can't write off the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, Wolves, Grizzlies, Nuggets, anybody. Now you go over to the East, and instead of having three teams of nothing, they have three teams that are good, a few teams that can compete, and a bunch of shit. Atlanta, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto, Orlando, Cleveland, even New Jersey and Philly can be included in there. You have to realize that if the Timberwolves or Lakers were in the Eastern Conference, they would be in the playoffs right now and Philadelphia and New Jersey wouldn't. It's harder competition, so a team with an identical record in the East and West, you can put money that the Western team is better. Finally, take a look at Miami's record. 59-23, their record against the Eastern Conference was 41-11, that means that when they faced Western Conference teams they were 18-12. OVER HALF OF THE HEATS LOSSES WERE TO WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, AND THEY PLAYED 22 MORE GAMES AGAINST EASTERN TEAMS. It is rediculous and stupid for anybody to try to claim parity just because losing teams didn't make the playoffs.

04-25-2005, 03:54 PM	#53
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Nowthen I will go into my prediction. Honestly, I think that Detroit has a better overall team then Miami. These are the only two teams in the East with a legit post presence, one is the most dominant player in the league and one has two of the top defensive big men in the league. I think that when it comes down to it, in the playoffs and under current conditions, the Pistons would win. I don't think Shaq is playing 100% right now and by the time they meet he could be in even worse condition, and even after that the Pistons just clog you up on defense. Regardless, I think a Western team will win in the end, but Detroit and Miami are the only teams in the East with a legit chance of winning while there are probably six in the West that do.

04-25-2005, 05:41 PM	#56
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Lol. DaveWadding made a comment about the Pistons not taking Carmelo because they already had Tayshaun Prince, also a young small forward. Splaya midunderstood what Dave was saying and pointed out that the Pistons took Darko, not Tayshaun, instead of Carmelo. The Icon of Elism, PureHatred, and myself pointed out how he was misinformed. Both you and Splaya look retarded for not only being wrong, but being pompous and gay about it.

04-25-2005, 06:56 PM	#57
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	I am pompous cause Detroit will repeat

04-25-2005, 07:36 PM	#58
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I think Detroit has a good chance of taking the East again aswell, but what we are talking about is how you and Ruien are acting like ass holes when you aren't even right

04-25-2005, 10:38 PM	#59
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]

04-25-2005, 10:52 PM	#60
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Slut.

04-26-2005, 01:25 AM	#62
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	T-Mac is a stud. I used to not like him and question his drive, but I think he has proven quite a bit this season.

04-26-2005, 02:26 AM	#65
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	Indiana matches up so horribly against Boston. That team is full of slashers and penatrators. We cant stop penatration at all . We get killed on offesive boards. I think we match up much better with Detroit or Miami.

04-26-2005, 02:33 AM	#68
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	Rectal Pertruder, Do you act this fucking retarded away from your computer?

04-26-2005, 12:28 PM	#69
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	There is no doubt that the Suns beat Memphis, unless things go drastically different the West will be represented by Houston or Phoenix.

04-26-2005, 03:58 PM	#70
Bad Guy TPWW VET Posts: 10,837	Detroit v Houston finals. Not sure who I'm taking yet.

04-26-2005, 07:21 PM	#71
Nark Order Soundly Defeated Wadding Posts: 40,590	Sac will beat Seattle but will fall soon after. And if they do somehow make it to the Western Conference finals The Suns (Who are going to win everything) will destroy them.

04-26-2005, 10:57 PM	#74
weather vane quesque fuck? Posts: 23,554	Celtics all the way baby. Get ready.

04-26-2005, 11:24 PM	#75
The Icon of Elisim Elitist Member Posts: 15,438	Just gotta say that Houston has been playing amazing in this series (about 20 times better than I expected) but anyone that thinks that they'll go to the finals is crazy. They don't have the front court depth to cover Amare and no matter how good Yao is playing right now, he doesn't have the conditioning to run up and down the floor for half a game. I have to give respect to McGrady, the last two games he's played better than I've ever seen him play. I'd say its some of the best basketball I've ever seen (I'm still a relatively new fan of the league, only started watching in 2000 or so).

04-27-2005, 12:41 AM	#78
PureHatred Instant Credibility Posts: 2,979	Lotta people talking about how weak the Heat's bench was weak, looked very misinformed tonight. They are role players who play their role perfectly. And Zo might go through kidneys the way Nelly goes through Cristal, but if he plays like that through the playoff, Pat Riley gets his parade in downtonw Miami this year. Everyone loves the Wallace boys, but not even they can hang with Shaq AND a frisky Zo.

04-27-2005, 12:51 AM	#79
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	Seattle lookin damn impressive today, maybe they stand a chance too