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Old 07-12-2005, 08:48 PM   #41
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wow it's actually starting. Was that Sosa singing the anthem? he was pretty good.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:49 PM   #42
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You missed my point.

ok. so whats wrong with the DH? he's the second best player there.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:51 PM   #43
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I wonder whose decision it was to make Pujols the DH and have Lee play 1st. Hmmm...
The fans...who voted Derek Lee the National League starting first baseman...
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No. I'm saying it's not that shocking that LaRussa would pick Pujols to DH instead of Lee and give his member of his team a night off practically.





Good DP by the O's
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The fans...who voted Derek Lee the National League starting first baseman...
I thought the managers could make changes to lineup though?
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No. I'm saying it's not that shocking that LaRussa would pick Pujols to DH instead of Lee and give his member of his team a night off practically.





Good DP by the O's
pay more attention. the reason pujols is DH tonight, is so later in the game (6th/7th inning) he can come in to play first and then just use bench players for the pitcher spot at bat, since they lose the DH after that.

plus Pujols might be the best player out of both leagues. the fans just voted Lee in.
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I thought the managers could make changes to lineup though?
hell no. fans vote in the starters and that is locked unless a player drops out (ex. Rolen at 3rd isn't playing so Ramirez from the Cubs is in)
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I thought the managers could make changes to lineup though?
Just thought about that. No they can't. Stupid. Only the rotation.


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Yeah, beat me to it.
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Nice shot by Tejada.




He was an A, you know
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Man I'm usually a big Joe Buck fan but he is swinging and missing quite a bit tonight.

"Manny Ramirez and Johnny Damon are out which means all the hair stylists are turning off the game."

No, Joe, no.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:49 PM   #56
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plus Pujols might be the best player out of both leagues. the fans just voted Lee in.
Noooooo

Vlad and ARod can both hit as good as Pujols but they can also play D and run a lot better than our boy Albert. Best player in the NL yes but not both leagues.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:56 PM   #57
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Eh fuck it, NL is never gonna win one of these again
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But Manny and his .275 average was a much better selection
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LaRussa is weak for starting his own dude tonight. NL is gonna lose now just because of that

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Rogers gives up a 2 run homer to Andruw Jones.
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If there are any Rangers fans out there get used to that, Rogers will be lucky to have an ERA under 7 the second half
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:46 AM   #75
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But Manny and his .275 average was a much better selection
Just a hunch but it probably had something to do with his 22 homeruns, 53 runs scored and his 80 RBI

So yes, Manny's .275 average was the better choice.
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Just a hunch but it probably had something to do with his 22 homeruns, 53 runs scored and his 80 RBI

So yes, Manny's .275 average was the better choice.
So he puts up good power numbers, big whoop. Manny has been a one dimensional player this year. He's slow as shit and one of the worst outfielders in baseball. Ichiro is one of the best outfielders in baseball, is among the AL's leader in steals, and has .35 points higher BA. This season manny has just been a power hitter who K's all the time, put Adam Dunn or somebody in his spot and he'd put up the same numbers.
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Big whoop? lol

He's 3rd (maybe 4th?) in the AL in homeruns, and leads the AL in RBIs. Those aren't just "good power numbers" those are great power numbers. As a lead off hitter Ichiro is suppose to be around the tops in batting average, this year he is probably the 3rd best lead off hitter in the AL.

Comparing Manny to Adam Dunn is laugable aswell, Dunn does have 23 dinners but has way less RBIs (52 to Manny's 80 and his batting average is a kot lower than Ramirez's (.239 - .275)

Manny is a terrible fielding outfielder but he does lead the league in outfield assists
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That's why I said put Adam Dunn in his spot. If Adam Dunn or a similar power hitter had Johnny Damon, Edgar Renteria, and David Oritz in front of him he'd have a few more RBI's, no? RBI numbers are overblown because of the team, Pujols is probably gonna have more RBI's than Derrek Lee by the end of the season, but that's because the Cubs suck, Pujols almost always has someone on base when he hits.

It doesn't matter what rank Ichiro is among leadoff hitters because that's not how the team is selected, it's by defensive positions. Let's look at how they compare on the 5 tools used to determine a player's overall abilities.

Hitting for avg: Ichiro
35 points higher BA no contest.

Hitting for power: Manny
23 (I think) homers to 6, no contest

Arm: Ichiro
Sure Manny has more assists but that is because nobody even thinks about running on Ichiro. Manny has an above average arm and Ichiro has one of the top 3 or 4 arms in baseball. Ask Terrence Long.

Glove: Ichiro
Manny is a joke with the glove and Ichiro has played 4 years in America and has won 4 gold gloves.

Speed: Ichiro
Ichiro has stolen more bases this season than Manny has in the last 8 years

Ichiro > Manny
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I dunno, Ichiro didn't deserve to start this year IMO. He's not doing bad, but it has been an off year for him.
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