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Old 07-15-2005, 08:43 AM   #41
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can someone post what they wrote plz..

i haven;t seen it
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Animal: The Road Warriors vs. MNM at the Great American Bash
MNMember #1: We can't do that
MNMember #2: Why?
MNMember #1: His partner's dead..





Honestly, if I was in the crowd at the time I would've stuck him in the jaw... don't care if I got kicked out, beaten up.. wtf ever..
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:44 AM   #42
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Animal: The Road Warriors vs. MNM at the Great American Bash
MNMember #1: We can't do that
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MNMember #1: His partner's dead..





Honestly, if I was in the crowd at the time I would've stuck him in the jaw... don't care if I got kicked out, beaten up.. wtf ever..
Actually, it wasn't even Animal that made that challenge. It was a member of MNM saying he'd "give Animal a shot".
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:48 AM   #43
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:10 AM   #44
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a simple... "you're short a partner for a tag title shot" could of worked. saying it without saying it kinda thing.

after thinking about it for awhile i would like to know why in the world Joe agreed for that to be said... i've known him for a long time (as i explained before) and i dont get it.
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:16 AM   #45
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Honestly, if it were me and they came to me with that line, I'd have nixed that shit. Fire me, do whatever, but $$ don't override my personal beliefs - and I feel that that was out of line.

What the fuck do you expect though from a guy who spraypaints nWo on a picture of his dead father, all in a desperate attempt to regain fan interest that would've still been there if he'd been doing his job right all along.
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:35 AM   #46
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What the fuck do you expect though from a guy who spraypaints nWo on a picture of his dead father, all in a desperate attempt to regain fan interest that would've still been there if he'd been doing his job right all along.
????? are you talking about Animal there
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:37 AM   #47
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Just a question, did either of those angles involve an actual dead guy?
Well technically the Big Show/Bossman feud did involve a real dead person since Show's Dad had died a few years before this due to cancer.
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????? are you talking about Animal there
vince did that during his "i'm going to infect the WWF" promo
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No, not Animal.

What ST7 said - it was done during the promotional videos for the arrival of the nWo, and it aired over and over and over again. Completely tasteless - especially since if it wasn't for his father Vince would probably be shoveling shit out of ditches for a living.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:11 PM   #51
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No, not Animal.

What ST7 said - it was done during the promotional videos for the arrival of the nWo, and it aired over and over and over again. Completely tasteless - especially since if it wasn't for his father Vince would probably be shoveling shit out of ditches for a living.
Not to mention that he only "saved" wrestling because he nearly destroyed it.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:27 PM   #52
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No, not Animal.

What ST7 said - it was done during the promotional videos for the arrival of the nWo, and it aired over and over and over again. Completely tasteless - especially since if it wasn't for his father Vince would probably be shoveling shit out of ditches for a living.
Huh can't remember that
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:10 PM   #53
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Honestly, if it were me and they came to me with that line, I'd have nixed that shit. Fire me, do whatever, but $$ don't override my personal beliefs - and I feel that that was out of line.
Amen to that.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:29 PM   #54
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Animal: The Road Warriors vs. MNM at the Great American Bash
MNMember #1: We can't do that
MNMember #2: Why?
MNMember #1: His partner's dead..





Honestly, if I was in the crowd at the time I would've stuck him in the jaw... don't care if I got kicked out, beaten up.. wtf ever..

I had the same feeling, i just watched that vid on wwe.com and yelled out "what the fuck" after hearing that. Utterly pathetic they'd come off with something like that.

Was kinda weird hearing the lod theme playing and only seeing animal come out, even knowing hawk was dead i still sort of expected to see both of them.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:30 PM   #55
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:32 PM   #56
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:37 PM   #57
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I had the same feeling, i just watched that vid on wwe.com and yelled out "what the fuck" after hearing that. Utterly pathetic they'd come off with something like that.

Was kinda weird hearing the lod theme playing and only seeing animal come out, even knowing hawk was dead i still sort of expected to see both of them.
It will be weird for the inevitable pre-match interview to not include a "Well!" Hawk had a really bizarre promo style, but - at least to me - he was always the face of the Warriors. Not that Animal wasn't phenomenal in his own right, I was always a Hawk man. GAB is going to be really odd.

On a semi-related note, can anyone else picture Vince McMahon trying to make Jon Heidenreich induce vomiting in his office? "HE'S GONNA PUUUUUUUUUUUKE!"
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:39 PM   #58
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On a semi-related note, can anyone else picture Vince McMahon trying to make Jon Heidenreich induce vomiting in his office? "HE'S GONNA PUUUUUUUUUUUKE!"
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:58 PM   #60
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lol

Ok, I know it was in bad taste but to acertain extent they were stat8ing the obvious ina heel persona, I'm guessing that alot of marks probabaly don't know that Hawk(RIP) is dead and was done for their benefit who thought 'wow, why is there only one half of the Legion of Doom out there'.
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I think there is a case of overreacting myself. I agree it was more of a shot at Animal that he didn't have a partner (everyone associates his partner along with him when they think of the LOD/Road Warriors). I don't think it was meant as a shot against Hawk, and even then, it was in character of MNM, two people who are supposed to be cocky assholes, anyway. Maybe if they went about saying more than him being dead (like, say, if they went about how he died and all of that other shit, maybe, but just a mention to take a shot at Animal's being without a man in his corner I wouldn't see as too big of a deal).

I think this is just us overreacting a bit here.
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Old 07-16-2005, 12:26 AM   #62
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It was in bad taste because the road warriors were the best tag team ever. I don't like seeing animal without hawk. I don't like seeing the road warriors taken to school by anyone. whenever wwe brings someone out from the past its just to push someone else. when you see sgt slaughter come to the ring you KNOW we will see him get beat down. I think they will make animal look like a fool and push mnm. the WHOLE thing disgusts me. I would like to remember lod for being awesome.
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It was in bad taste because the road warriors were the best tag team ever. I don't like seeing animal without hawk. I don't like seeing the road warriors taken to school by anyone. whenever wwe brings someone out from the past its just to push someone else. when you see sgt slaughter come to the ring you KNOW we will see him get beat down. I think they will make animal look like a fool and push mnm. the WHOLE thing disgusts me. I would like to remember lod for being awesome.
To be fair on that statement, though, he has Heidenrich in his corner now, and they could use this to push Heidenrich, since they want to do that anyway, or have MNM win by beating Heidenrich.
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It was in bad taste because the road warriors were the best tag team ever. I don't like seeing animal without hawk. I don't like seeing the road warriors taken to school by anyone. whenever wwe brings someone out from the past its just to push someone else. when you see sgt slaughter come to the ring you KNOW we will see him get beat down. I think they will make animal look like a fool and push mnm. the WHOLE thing disgusts me. I would like to remember lod for being awesome.
Shut the fuck up.
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Agreed.

Besides, I have yet to see Hogan come back to "push someone else." It's usually to "bring WWE TV to a screeching halt."
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Agreed.

Besides, I have yet to see Hogan come back to "push someone else." It's usually to "bring WWE TV to a screeching halt."
Hogan jobbed Brock when scsa walked out because he refused to. Hogan got his ass handed to him, not in a normal way. He never hulked up, no leg drop just complete destruction. that was a few years ago though. Hogan is an acception to the rule. Did roddy piper beat up hbk the other night? I knew what was going to happen.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:13 PM   #67
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whenever wwe brings someone out from the past its just to push someone else. when you see sgt slaughter come to the ring you KNOW we will see him get beat down. I think they will make animal look like a fool and push mnm. the WHOLE thing disgusts me. I would like to remember lod for being awesome.
Well, for this you have to blame the wrestlers themselves.

There is such a thing as putting over younger guys, but to an extent. Guys like Slaughter have put over the entire roster, to the point that it makes no difference if you pin him or not. At that point, you're not really very "special" anymore - and while older fans may remember you as being good, the young fans will always know you as a joke / jobber to the current talents.

And quite honestly, in this day and age of wrestling, there aren't many good young talents out there to be worthy of putting over - and the ones that are usually never get the right opportunities.

I see your point of not wanting to see the legends get crushed by the new guys, and I agree with that, but you can't blame the young guys - and you really can't blame management; you have to blame the guys who are taking the fall.
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You people take things way too seriously, you want to know how I reacted to Nitro saying Hawk is dead?

Nitro: We can't do that, Joey...
Joey: why not?
Nitro: Because... His partner is dead. ha ha
Joey:

Animal:

Me: Ooooooh, are you going to take that, Animal? kick their fucking asses! Fuck, they're talking about your dead partner, man.



While most of you guys say "It's disgusting", "they went too far", come the fuck on, people, lighten up, They need Heat, what better way than to say your partner is dead, to make the good guy angry enough to kill them?

"it was done during the promotional videos for the arrival of the nWo, and it aired over and over and over again. Completely tasteless - especially since if it wasn't for his father Vince would probably be shoveling shit out of ditches for a living."

Tasteless, TASTELESS? Hell it's WWE, it's entertainment, it got people to hate Vince, do you really think Vince would spit on his father, or disrespect him? I don't know Vince personally, but I don't think he would, Vince has the whole "What can I do that will make people get more into my product, I know I'll do some crazy shit, that always brings people in." and most of the time it does, except people that take what they see on a TV show VERY seriously

If Animal had a problem with it, don't you think he would have went up to Vince and asked him not to bring Hawk into it, Animal must have been alright with it and he knew Hawk better than any of you people, so why should I be offended if somebody that knew the person in question for much longer than me, not mind if Hawk is bought up in a comment by his opponent.

my point is, don't take Wrestling storylines too seriously or you'll have a heart attack by the age of 30
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I have to say, it didn't bother me at all.

Sure, it might have been in bad taste, but as a few people have said, if I were Mercury or Nitro and were told to say it, I'd do it in a heartbeat rather than risk my job.

I like MNM's gimmick, so I don't think anything could turn me from them, even if it WAS in bad taste.

So I have to say, if they made that reference again, I wouldn't be bothered a bit by it.
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Lighten up, people. I'm quite sure Animal would not have allowed it if he didn't know Hawk would be watching from heaven laughing his ass off.
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They need heat, what better way than to say your partner is dead, to make the good guy angry enough to kill them?

Tasteless, TASTELESS? Hell it's WWE, it's entertainment, it got people to hate Vince, do you really think Vince would spit on his father, or disrespect him? I don't know Vince personally, but I don't think he would, Vince has the whole "What can I do that will make people get more into my product, I know I'll do some crazy shit, that always brings people in." and most of the time it does, except people that take what they see on a TV show VERY seriously
What better way to get heat? How about doing it LEGITIMATELY?

Maybe that's too much to ask nowadays in wrestling, and maybe that is why the business is in the shit shape it is in. Wrestlers years back drew WAY more heat than most today can even dream of, and NEVER had to resort to cheap shit like they do now. It's pity heat. "X-Pac" heat if you will.

Fact is, if you can't get heat without mocking someone's death, racial slurs, etc. - you're not worth shit. I definitely think Vince would disrespect his own father. Vince would run his mother over with a car if it meant making $$. The saddest fact is, he runs these senseless / tasteless angles, and they aren't making a dime.

I don't take anything very seriously, but what I do find completely disturbing is that the business has to resort to complete bullshit like this to attempt to draw heat. Keep up this logic, and pretty soon you'll open a door for bullshit like it - except 10 times worse.

What are you going to do next? Have Bret Hart make an appearance and then send someone out to mock Owen's death? 'Hey Bret, Your career is about as dead as your brother'. Now that's great heat.
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It would be outstanding heat. I'm not saying it's 100% correct to go the quick way for heat, but what else were they ment to do, how far away is the ppv, a week? that might not have been long enough to make a good storyline, as soon as Nitro said that his partner is dead and laughed, he made it personal which pretty much signed the deal for the tag team title match.
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