Potentially a huge trade in Baseball involving the Red Sox,D-Rays and Mets - Page 2

**Evil Vito** · 07-30-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

You have know idea how fucked the Mets would be in 2008 if they picked up Manny's contract. There is no reason to trade away your future for a quick-fix. Why do the Mets need to win in 2005?

Well, it's not so much about 2005, IMO.....I'm thinking to next year when Floyd and Cameron will still be under contract and Milledge likely won't be up before September unless there are a ton of injuries.....I won't mind Floyd but I personally can't stand Cameron.....Victor Diaz COULD be used in RF but Mets management seem to wanting to convert him to a 1st baseman.....plus when Piazza likely goes that'll be one less bat in the lineup

Ehh after thinking about it for awhile, if the Mets are certain they can get a big bat in either the OF, 1B, or 2B....then they can probably do without Manny......yet if they can get the Sox to cover some of Manny's contract then it'll probably be a good move

Ehhh whatever....this confusion is why I'm not the GM.....I have faith that Omar will make the right move and will support his decision.

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MVP

Sorry, but the ONLY reason I would justify trading Manny is so the Sox can afford Damon resigning. Otherwise, Carlos "I dropped the ball" Beltran and Glavine aren't worth the deal.

Well, good thing your justifications have nothing to do with logic and baseball.

I like how you pick on Beltrans feilding and forget about Manny's, Fielding, Baserunning, Running (or not running) to first.

Damon's a better fielder and hits for better average and better OBP he's a leadoff hitter.

There about same in steals, which also factors on how a team uses them.

Beltran has better power which would help replace Manny's bat .

Then factor Glavine a decent pitcher, nothing what he once was, but a decent pitcher and the sox need SP depth and Glavine would help.

So, it would be a good deal, for those reasons.

That being said, haven't heard anything on that one in awhile, keep hearing the other 3-way deal, so I doubt this one is on the table.

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

yet if they can get the Sox to cover some of Manny's contract then it'll probably be a good move

Just a note, John Henry who is the majority owner has gone on record many times saying he would never pay for a player to play for another team.

Does that mean it wont happen, of course not, but I wouldn't count on that.

**Evil Vito** · 07-30-2005, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Just a note, John Henry who is the majority owner has gone on record many times saying he would never pay for a player to play for another team.

Does that mean it wont happen, of course not, but I wouldn't count on that.

Ahh, never knew that...wasn't really counting on it but I was just sorta playing out all the possibilities

Anyways, I have decided that.....regardless of whether the Mets get Manny or not, the one thing I want done before the deadline is getting Mike Cameron off the team.....he had yet another 3-strikeout game today, and at this point I'd be willing to sell him for anyone (or anything, for that matter)....I know Cameron has ALWAYS had a history of K'ing too much, but it's getting ridiculous. I'd much rather have Diaz up and playing everyday, regardless of how big a defensive liability he is (since he will be no matter where you put him anyway)

**VonErich Lives** · 07-30-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

Ahh, never knew that...wasn't really counting on it but I was just sorta playing out all the possibilities

Anyways, I have decided that.....regardless of whether the Mets get Manny or not, the one thing I want done before the deadline is getting Mike Cameron off the team.....he had yet another 3-strikeout game today, and at this point I'd be willing to sell him for anyone (or anything, for that matter)....I know Cameron has ALWAYS had a history of K'ing too much, but it's getting ridiculous. I'd much rather have Diaz up and playing everyday, regardless of how big a defensive liability he is (since he will be no matter where you put him anyway)

Yeah, someone suggested today that Cameron would be the long term replacement if the Sox don't sign Damon.

I threw something at them. Cameron is strictly a body till the end of the season then the Sox let him go.

**The Outlaw** · 07-30-2005, 10:14 PM

Tell me that guy didn't dog on Carlos Beltran.

**The Miz** · 07-30-2005, 11:18 PM

lol Jesse Foppert

Seeya Randy

**CNM** · 07-31-2005, 01:19 AM

The M's screwed the Gints. Brian Sabean is an idiot.

**VonErich Lives** · 07-31-2005, 12:44 PM

Manny trade is dead.

Manny came into the pre-game press confrence.

Basiclly said, he's happy to be here, wants to play for the Red Sox in 2005, etc...

The interesting note was he said "2005", so don't be shocked if they revisit the trade after the season.

07-30-2005, 10:14 PM	#46
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Tell me that guy didn't dog on Carlos Beltran.

07-30-2005, 11:18 PM	#47
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	lol Jesse Foppert Seeya Randy

07-31-2005, 01:19 AM	#48
CNM Posts: 2,540	The M's screwed the Gints. Brian Sabean is an idiot.

07-31-2005, 12:44 PM	#49
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Manny trade is dead. Manny came into the pre-game press confrence. Basiclly said, he's happy to be here, wants to play for the Red Sox in 2005, etc... The interesting note was he said "2005", so don't be shocked if they revisit the trade after the season.