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Old 08-30-2005, 12:40 AM   #41
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:16 AM   #42
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:59 AM   #43
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Getting it tomorrrrroooow errr I guess later today if you want to be specific.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:18 PM   #44
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I just got it. It's pretty damn great, a real improvement over last year. The only problem I have is the stamina meter. I just had Paul London vs. Chavo in a Ladder match (BTW, London's entrance is so short that Chimmel doesn't get all the way though it when it's a gimmick match...) and London kept getting worn down, even within the first 30 seconds. I guess I just need to get used to the new system.

Also, Batista doesn't have his current music or pyro, but his WrestleMania 21 dance is in!
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:44 PM   #45
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:58 PM   #46
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damn eb didn't get it here t0day

xero, can you switch camera view to behind the ring rather than to the side?
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:17 PM   #47
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I haven't tried season yet as CAW seems pretty deep.

As for the camera, you have three to choose from. Default, which is the side/WWE TV angle, behind the announcer's desk, and a new diagonal view from the back right turnbuckle.

Also, the blood system is GREAT. There are three stages, the first is where there's a little blood on the face, the second stage the blood gets a bit worse (I THINK that there's a second stage. If not visually, blood starts to drip to the mat a bit worse), and the third stage it's on their chest. The best part about it are the mat stains when the blood drips from a move/strike, but they fade after a few seconds. Also, I had Triple H bleeding so badly (third stage) that he was losing blood by just standing around.
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:18 PM   #48
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I wasn't intending on getting this, but seeing as it's only £25, why not eh.
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:31 PM   #49
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sweet just what i was hoping for, thanks xero
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:15 PM   #50
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Haven't played any actual matches yet, but I'll do the pros & cons now (and finish up later).

PROS
- For starters, there are only 2 licensed songs as opposed to the 8 (?) from the first DoR. This is good because the first DoR had only 1 good song in the soundtrack. The new background music is generic, but not bad enough to make me mute it like before. Also, more room for other stuff.

- The models aren't so shiny anymore. In the last DoR, even the clothes were shiny.

- CAW has been expanded. Not just more outfits, but a more in depth mask editor and a new ability system that determines the moves you can actually do.

- Speaking of moves, the new ones are sssssssssick. TTD anyone? Also, you are now able to pull off more powerful moves from weak grapples (probably at a cost of Stamina draining faster).

- It is way easier to use the crate an entrance, now that they mention which camera angle does what. Also, the lighting has never looked better.

CONS
- WTF? Batista's new music isn't in the game

- The legends have theme music, apparently (Real American was mentioned in the book credits)

- WTF did they do to the Afros hairstyles? They look terrible

- Why is the only black character template for sale in the shop? Do you know how long it took to custom make a skin color that doesn't look like the guy is made of chocolate?

- It takes way too long for the game to load any time you make a cosmetic change to your CAW. Like 20 seconds too long.

- No new pyro in the entrances except for Chrs Masters
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:17 PM   #51
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:30 PM   #52
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:56 PM   #53
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I was playing the game earlier today and man... I can't rave enough. The blood in that game is just awesome, it makes you fear getting busted open because when I was bleeding for hours with JBL, he was a wreck! He couldn't move after awhile, just bleed like crazy. Some of the moves are sick, the look in some of the shots just beautiful, and it's just plain fun. And Xtian's theme is in it!

I didn't like the Stamina feature. It's not bad, but dammnnnn.. if you're not a great player, prepared to be on the mat for hours, especially if you're a high-flyer. It's alot of work to keep it up, but you do get tired after awhile. No Batista new theme and only 4 people on the screen at times. Plus, the ref can be a pain since he is always knocked around, but... he can be a great factor.

Anyways, great game. I'd suggest it for those hated all the other GC WWE games, because this is the best it can get and it's pretty damn good. Those with a PS2, you may wanna wait, but I'd stick with DOR2.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:04 AM   #54
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Yeah, the AI has gotten better at reverals and breaking up holds. But now they do this thing where they will just stand there ad look at your carcass, even if they are not trying to build stamina..
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:14 AM   #55
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This game sounds like its total kickass. I watched Chris Masters entrance on IGN, they almost had the timing right with his poses and music, if they slowed him down more they would have got it. I'd get this game if I had a Gamecube
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:13 AM   #56
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Yeah, Masters' poses are actually off by quite a bit.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:20 PM   #57
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Weird, on play.com the UK release date is set as the 30th of September, whilst on Game.uk.com it's down for the 9th.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:26 PM   #58
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:28 PM   #59
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The online reactions better be faster this year.

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That would require that I buy a PS2. That would require that I trade in all the shit I have now as well as spending more money on top of that. That sucks.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:46 PM   #61
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Im buying a game cube tomorrow....This game is kickass....

Finally, something other than "No Mercy" that has my attention completely during gameplay....

Cant wait to start with the CAW's
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:11 PM   #63
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- WTF? Batista's new music isn't in the game

- The legends have theme music, apparently (Real American was mentioned in the book credits
How are they cons? Batista's new music is lame as fuck anyway, and Legends having themes is a GOOD thing.
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Weird, on play.com the UK release date is set as the 30th of September, whilst on Game.uk.com it's down for the 9th.
The US had like 9 different release dates. Some stores still say it won't be in until October.
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I picked this up today, and it's HOT.


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Ok, Pros & Cons of the gameplay...

PROS
- The AI is smarter... way smarter. They break up submissions before you even have them applied now. They whip you into their corner when they want to tag in and out. They break up particularly devastating moves, to keep you from gaing an advantage in 4 way matches. Brilliant.

- The learning curve is better than in the original DoR. Instead of just making you do specific tasks, this time, you start off with the first few guys being relatively easy but gradually increasing in difficulty. This lets you feel out the AI to better prepare you for real matches.

- The story line is like a real (and dare I say fantastic) WWE angle. The dialog sounds sort of like what the actual wrestlers might say on tv. Best of all, you're not just some pussy who takes everyone's shit anymore (taking a lead pipe to the back of Edge's head for hitting on your girl? God damn, son!). Also, there are minor choices every now and then, such as which partner or opponent you want to fight with.

- The match layout during the story is great. So far, I've had hardcore matches, cage matches (one of them a 4 way), a tornado tag match and a bra and panties match, and I'm not even 20 shows in yet. Yeah, Stacy Keibler is your girl and you get to control her at least once so far. Also, you don't wrestle every night. Obviously, no wrestler wrestles every night on RAW and I'm glad they've captured that. You do still make promo appearances, though.

- The stamina meter adds difficulty to the game. You can't just bulldoze your way through an opponent with extremely tough moves or you will tire out (ie. you can't move, which = bad news late in a tough match).

- The reversals have been greatly improved. Before some styles were almost identiclal, save for one or 2 particular reversals (eg. Edge's and Benjamin's). Now there is more variety, as the existing styles have been expanded and there are more individual reversal styles to choose from.

- You can now get tied up in the ropes facing out of the ring as well as th original inwards way. Nice touch there. Adds realism.

- The blood system. I had Edge in the corner while he was bleeding and pummeled his head with repeated kicks. When he finally fell down, there was a pool of blood where he was standing. Definitely better than the "mist" from DoR.

CONS
- The submission system. Before I shit all over it, let me say this: the overhaul is not bad, it's just not as good as it could have been. The system gives you four options when applying a submission: taunt (which drains spirit), drain (which drains stamina), submit (which actually weakens the particular body part[s]for a quicker sumbission) and rest hold (which fills up your stamina meter, you'll be using this a lot). That's all well and good, but I was under the assumption that you would have a different submission for each, thus allowing you to be some kind of Dean Malenko "man of 1000 holds" wannabe. Oh well.

- Moments of retardation on the part of the AI. Sometimes they stand there and do nothing for a long time when you are knocked down. Then they will have a delayed reaction and over compensate when you finally get up. The ref is dumber than ever too. He seems to enjoy walking directly into your line of sight when you are busting out a particularly strong attack. Also, why is he selectable? He just wastes precious moments while you are trying to cycle through opponents you are facing.

- Speaking of targeting, why is the C stick still used for that? It's very inaccurate. I preferred the Z button methon from WM XIX. I realize it's also the tag button, but how hard is it to make tagging done by holding R and pressing Z?

- Withstanding strikes. When you hold down R, you can now puff your chest out and take it like a man (just like in the N64 games) without receiving damage. I find it just makes it easier to be a pussy. It's not that hard to time reversals.

- It's a little too easy to knock people out with weapons now. You have to take it easy now.
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and Legends having themes is a GOOD thing.
My mistake, that was supposed to go into the pros. And yeah, they definitely have music. I unlocked Austin and he his theme. Next up Bret Hart.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:01 PM   #71
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It just randomly gave me Austin I was like ok
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:30 PM   #72
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It just randomly gave me Austin I was like ok
Not random. It's in the manual:

Austin - 5 singles exhibition match wins
Mankind - 10 singles exhibition match wins
Bret Hart - 20 singles exhibition match wins
The Rock - 20 shows in story mode
Hulk Hogan - complete story mode

Also, The Rock isn't current Rock, it's him from around his face turn against the Corporation. Sideburns and no arm/chest tattoo.
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:50 PM   #73
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My mistake, that was supposed to go into the pros. And yeah, they definitely have music. I unlocked Austin and he his theme. Next up Bret Hart.
Makes more sense.

Also, I feel your pain on skin color. Ever try and makum Injun?
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Makes more sense.

Also, I feel your pain on skin color. Ever try and makum Injun?
I just make em hispanic and toss the headdress from the gear on him and call it a day.
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Fuck Fatal fourway cage matches
Amen! I'm stuck too. I almost took a shotgun to my fucking TV I'm so pissed about it!
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You guys suck. That match was easy. Just float like a butterfly and sting like a bee (ie. a weak grapple here, a combo there and keep moving). Save up a couple of specials, then when everyone is tired, lay them all out with your hardest shit and escape.
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I've been wanting, and wishing, for a cage match that can end with a pinfall or submission. I hate almost breaking my controller by mashing buttons. Looks like my hopes...they are in vain.
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I'm pissed off at CAW mode, it seems like they load the ENTIRE Caw everytime you make the smallest change, I am switching between making a CAW and watching TV just because of this... CAW is my favourite thing in the game so its' a big dissapointment

also, they removed the hair i always use for my main caw, WTFFFFFFFFFF, all the hair styles suck

other than that, no complaints here, i love that you can switch camera angles to the old way... SvR was terrible because you couldn't (imo). Hopefully SvR 2k6 has this camera angle switch mode too. Also, Stamina is gay... you can turn it off in SvR 2k6, so why didn't they add that ability here?

The graphics are amazing, gameplay is nice although a bit slower, i am loving fatal four way last man standing, it's almost like the sweet battle royal option in WMX8.... oh one more complaint, i dislike how they removed that flash when you do a reversal.
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I'm pissed off at CAW mode, it seems like they load the ENTIRE Caw everytime you make the smallest change, I am switching between making a CAW and watching TV just because of this... CAW is my favourite thing in the game so its' a big dissapointment

also, they removed the hair i always use for my main caw, WTFFFFFFFFFF, all the hair styles suck

other than that, no complaints here, i love that you can switch camera angles to the old way... SvR was terrible because you couldn't (imo). Hopefully SvR 2k6 has this camera angle switch mode too. Also, Stamina is gay... you can turn it off in SvR 2k6, so why didn't they add that ability here?

The graphics are amazing, gameplay is nice although a bit slower, i am loving fatal four way last man standing, it's almost like the sweet battle royal option in WMX8.... oh one more complaint, i dislike how they removed that flash when you do a reversal.
Yeah, you can never see reversals coming anymore, unless you look at the spirit meters.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:44 AM   #80
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I just make em hispanic and toss the headdress from the gear on him and call it a day.
Don't forget the tribal tats.

(Though I gotta admit, I use them for my Eenjun...Mostly because I'm too lazy to come up with my own in the editor...)

Nothing says "indian" like a generic tribal tattoo like you can find on every white boy in LA.
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