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Old 08-25-2005, 04:06 AM   #41
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Taker should have at least a good 11month to a years title reign with the WWE belt first then at the draft after wrestlemania 22 in 06, have Kane and Snitsky join SD! (of course it would have to be while UT feuds with Heidenreich) and turn both Kane and Taker heel by then and have Snitsky and Heidenreich as the good guys, and have them and 2 other tag teams, 1 being the champs and 1 other team, compete in a fatal four way tag team battle royal for the belts, and UT and Kane could start a legit 6 month title reign with the tag straps if done properly...note i said IF done properly...which is highly unlikely in today's wwe...but just a thought...or 7--lol!
11 month to a years title reign?

that would mean what exactly? we would see the title maybe 5 or 6 times?

i don't have the time nor the energy to go through everything that is wrong with this post.

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Old 08-25-2005, 06:14 AM   #42
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:44 AM   #43
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The only reason I would ever put the World Heavyweight Title on Undertaker is if it was as a heel, and he jobbed it at WrestleMania to a new star.

Undertaker could and probably should keep his undefeated streak, but if he's going to shit all over talent by winning the title again, I say shit all over him.

I like The Undertaker, and he had a fantastic match with Orton at Summerslam, but this feud should be over and Taker should be finding someone else to put over before he retires. If Taker had class he would request that his title run be given to a younger star like Christian. Winning titles because it is in your contract is low, but I think The Undertaker could do a Robin Hood thing here and rob the rich and give to the poor.

Although, the "anti-Cena is God ideal" inside me is screaming for The Undertaker to show up on RAW, full Ministry Taker, and beat John Cena for the WWE Title before losing it to Kurt Angle.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:46 AM   #44
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Fuck that. Leave the streak. He doesn't need another title run, but I really think he deserves to keep that streak. In all of Undertaker's years, there are some things he's done and some things he's never done (including selling his opponents' offense )

Losing at Mania should really be one of those things that he just doesn't do.
exactly.

The only time he really could have lost @ mania IMO was against Orton.
I see no other reason why he should loose @ mania.

I would love to see Orton beat Taker at Wrestlemania 22 tho, I think that Orton beating taker would be unreal (btw, i'm big on orton @ the moment)
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:26 AM   #45
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he has to keep his mania streak but think about this
orton wins the title from batista....drops it to taker who then drops it to jericho with outside interference from orton
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:01 AM   #46
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I honestly don't see where he's being that selfish if he wants another title run. Granted, he's aging and nowhere near what he once was, but look at how many title reigns some of these other guys have had, and remember that Undertaker's been mega over and been a part of the WWE for fifteen years now.

Then recall that he's only held the World Title some four times, the longest reign being for four months in 1997, in a time where he was taking on "Number One Contenders" that had either lost or drawn in their last "big match".
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:26 AM   #47
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And if its a retirement match, it should be Undertaker vs. Christian, and Undertaker should win.

And I mean really retire, not retire like Hogan and Flair.
Awwww...Fanboy needs a nap...
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:27 AM   #48
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When he does go out, it'll be for good. The guy has too many nagging injuries that will probably require a shitload of surgery.
And that's different from the other "retired" wrestlers?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:28 AM   #49
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he has to keep his mania streak but think about this
orton wins the title from batista....drops it to taker who then drops it to jericho with outside interference from orton
Howabout he jobs clean, no title involved, and actually PUTS SOMEONE OVER while he's still worth something?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:30 AM   #50
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Losing at Mania should really be one of those things that he just doesn't do.
Losing is something Calloway tends not to do...
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:38 AM   #51
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Losing is something Calloway tends not to do...
He's only not beaten JBL at all, lost to Orton, lost to Cena back before Cena was in the main event, lost to Vincent by god McMahon himself, lost to Brock Lesnar, lost to The Rock, Steve Austin, etc., etc., etc.

If I wanted to nitpick, I could name more.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:09 PM   #52
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he's never been like hogan and refused to job
like pepsi man said in his post you could name more

i just dont see where the big fuss is about 1 more run with the title cause the biggest part of you on here are tired of batista with the belt and you hate jbl's ring work well taker is better than jbl and he does make people look good
orton vs taker both times was real good matches even with the taker sitting up deal BUT thats his character and thats why i think alot of people accuse him of not selling but he does sell more than alot of guys out there
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:12 PM   #53
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Losing to JBL put him over? You mean like when he lost because he was chlorophormed by HEI-DEN-REICH?
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:19 PM   #54
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yeah, and now look at heidenreich........
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:23 PM   #55
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yeah, and now look at heidenreich........
you mean look at him raping the memory of a legend?
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:23 PM   #56
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He should take the title off of Batista at Survivor Series, and hold it till Wrestlemania 22, where he should loose it to the winner of the Royal Rumble, Randy Orton, CLEAN, 1,2,3 in the centre of the ring.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:37 PM   #57
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I'm usually against backstage politics, and for veteran's using their "stroke" backstage, but in Taker's case, he is right a lot of the time. Taker complained if he had to lose a pointless match on RAW or Smackdown to a low mid-carder like A-Train or something, and he would refuse and get the ending switched (I've heard of that a couple of times). But, Taker is smart, because if he's jobbing to low-mid carders, the credibility of his character goes way down, and so would "defeating the Undertaker".

For example, look at Kane. In 1997/1998 he was basically unbeatable, and when you would beat Kane is was a "big deal". But in 2002, 2003, they had him losing matches to Renee Dupree, Sylvian, and other wrestlers that were no where near at the top, and because of that, Kane's credibility went way down and his character is basically in the crapper. But, of course, Kane unfortunately can't play backstage politics like Taker can.

What I like though is that Taker jobs when he feels that the wrestler he is losing to is about to peak, and because he only jobs to people that will be World Champ in the next year, that's why his character is still as credible as it is.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:44 PM   #58
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I'm usually against backstage politics, and for veteran's using their "stroke" backstage, but in Taker's case, he is right a lot of the time. Taker complained if he had to lose a pointless match on RAW or Smackdown to a low mid-carder like A-Train or something, and he would refuse and get the ending switched (I've heard of that a couple of times). But, Taker is smart, because if he's jobbing to low-mid carders, the credibility of his character goes way down, and so would "defeating the Undertaker".
Which would make sense, except the Undertaker feuds with a midcarder almost every week...

...Losing pointless matches is bad, but fighting in them isn't pointless?
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Right, because, how much more build can his character get? But, he has to fight once in a while besides pay-per-views and title matches. But, you are right, because having him defeat low mid-carders without anyone else interfering in hype of a PPV match or something, is indeed pointless, just like it would be pointless if anyone else were to do it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:40 PM   #60
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Right, because, how much more build can his character get? But, he has to fight once in a while besides pay-per-views and title matches. But, you are right, because having him defeat low mid-carders without anyone else interfering in hype of a PPV match or something, is indeed pointless, just like it would be pointless if anyone else were to do it.
IT's essentially PPV-Caliber squash matches.
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