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Old 09-11-2005, 10:07 PM   #41
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IMO, he's annoying on the microphone. When he starts talking I want to hit the mute button or turn it to something less annoying, like a Ready To Rumble movie marathon. And in the ring he's just like a run of the mill Heat jobber.

I mean I know people like him and all, that's cool...he just doesn't cut it for me.
That's fair enough. You don't have to like a guy. I personally disagree with your opinion, since I think he's quite the good wrestler from what we've seen, and he's more than ready for the big time. Plus I think his mic skills are good. I think he deliberately tries to sound annoying to get under our skin, but he's gotten the point accross in all his promos (well his one promo), and I think when he finds a feud he'll be able to cut some really good and effective promos.

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He's annoying on the mic, wastes time, and is an average wrestler.
Again, you are entitled to your own opinion. I disagree with him being an "average" wrestler, I'd lean more towards "good", but anyway, who in the WWE these days is allowed to be a "excellent" wrestler? I'm not trying to look like I'm a sheep of these guys here, but Ken Kennedy supposedly impressed both Jim Cornette and Paul Heyman in OVW. They are about as different as you can get, both with outstanding minds for the business. That means you must have something.

I don't see how he wastes time. He goes out there, plays the character he is supposed to play, and wrestles the match he is supposed to wrestle. He is actually quite time efficient in the ring, if you ask me.

You are entitled to not like his gimmick, but when he is on the mic he has presence. There is not one person who is not aware when Ken Kennedy is cutting a promo in the arena, and when he's out there he demands the spotlight. Whether or not you like him, that is something a big star in the business needs to be able to do.

You can call him annoying if you want, but Cena annoys me, yet he is one of the most over guys in the company. My opinion is just as valid as the next guys, but unfortunately, I'm in the minority.

On a side note, my nephew (who is ten years old), absolutely despises Cena, dislikes Batista (but doesn't dislike him as much as Cena, he's just not his favourite superstar) and when I walke din on him watching a SmackDown! re-run yesterday, he said "This guy is awesome," when Mr Kennedy was doing his stuff. Now it may not mean anything, but my nephew is your basic fan, yet he enjoys Ken Kennedy. I think there is seriously money in the guy.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:20 PM   #42
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I think he's an average wrestler, and I'm one of the KEneddy supporters.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:30 PM   #43
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I think he's an average wrestler, and I'm one of the KEneddy supporters.
Fair enough, but I think he's good. I really like some of the spots he and Funaki used in their first match in his Velocity debut.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:49 PM   #44
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I loved how he really sold Booker two weeks ago.
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Old 09-12-2005, 01:59 AM   #45
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Actually, I loved that little double kick/spinning heel kick he did. ( Ken goes this big ass kick, Booker ducks, and Ken follows through in one swift motion with a heel kick, catching him on the jaw.) Slickness.

He'll probably feud with Booker T, Benoit. Personally, I'm waiting for the Burchill Benoit food. That'll be golden. I also think that eventually, WWE will pair Kennedy and Burchhill, with Regal trying to turn Kennedy into a more serious fighter (like Burchill). Of course, Kennedy will eventually turn face, become more self absorbed than ever, and feud with Regal and Burchill.

Good stuff.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:09 AM   #46
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The people who bash him seem to just say "he's nothing special," but I've yet to see anyone really give a reason. It's like you don't like him because he's got fanboys now.

I dunno... I'd just like to hear what you think is bad about him. I mean, people like KooS and Kayfabe Man are posters who have credible opinions, so I just wanna know why you hate him.
His in-ring skills are no better than anyone else's on the indy scene. I could name 2 dozen indy guys that are FAR better in the ring than he is, and have proven they're more deserving of a spot than he is. He's someone I'd expect to see jobbing to Fit Finlay on WCW Saturday Night in 1998.

His supposed "mic skills" are indescribably bad. There is nothing great about doing your own announcing, and doing a mediocre job in the process; and a lack of overall promo skills. There are a bunch of other guys out there more deserving of his spot, especially guys within the company, and yet they are focusing the future of their company on mediocre, everyday talents.

I remember back when it used to mean something to wrestle for WWF/WWE; now as long as you suck, you're guaranteed a job. A good percentage of the roster blows, and their developmental system is basically developing a group of sucky talents [Johnny Swinger, The Shanes, etc.]
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:59 AM   #47
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To Savior & KoOS:

So basically, an opinion thing. Fair enough then.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:01 AM   #48
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Erm... and Kayfabeman too. totally missed the second page when I replied.
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His in-ring skills are no better than anyone else's on the indy scene. I could name 2 dozen indy guys that are FAR better in the ring than he is, and have proven they're more deserving of a spot than he is. He's someone I'd expect to see jobbing to Fit Finlay on WCW Saturday Night in 1998.

His supposed "mic skills" are indescribably bad. There is nothing great about doing your own announcing, and doing a mediocre job in the process; and a lack of overall promo skills. There are a bunch of other guys out there more deserving of his spot, especially guys within the company, and yet they are focusing the future of their company on mediocre, everyday talents.

I remember back when it used to mean something to wrestle for WWF/WWE; now as long as you suck, you're guaranteed a job. A good percentage of the roster blows, and their developmental system is basically developing a group of sucky talents [Johnny Swinger, The Shanes, etc.]
If that's your opinion.

Truth is though, anyone of those dozen indy guys would be toned down in the WWE so someone else will be online saying "They suck, I can name better guys than them!", I'm not trying to imply your brainless or anything (anyone with Conan as their avatar has my respect), but there will always be people who think one guy sucks and others are more deserving.

Right now, Kennedy is running with the ball he's been given, and I am happy for him.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:46 AM   #52
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Running with "the ball"? There is no ball for Ken Kennedy. He's been on television for three weeks. He isn't even allowed to to touch the ball yet.

And earlier in this thread, I think somebody actually said that Kennedy reminded them of a young Steve Austin. Shut up. Every single time a new wrestler and looks talented, a bunch of people in this forum scream "He reminds me of the ROCK!!" What they aren't telling you is that everyone reminds them of the Rock.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:45 AM   #53
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His in-ring skills are no better than anyone else's on the indy scene. I could name 2 dozen indy guys that are FAR better in the ring than he is, and have proven they're more deserving of a spot than he is.
So what? There are better wrestlers in the WWE. There are better wrestlers who have been fired. Remember Ultimo Dragon?

Even popular wrestlers aren't allowed to cut loose. Do you really think these guys would be that spectacular in the WWE? Look at everyone talking about Burchill's greatness, and suddenly he's a brawler with an armbar finisher.
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Running with "the ball"? There is no ball for Ken Kennedy. He's been on television for three weeks. He isn't even allowed to to touch the ball yet.

And earlier in this thread, I think somebody actually said that Kennedy reminded them of a young Steve Austin. Shut up. Every single time a new wrestler and looks talented, a bunch of people in this forum scream "He reminds me of the ROCK!!" What they aren't telling you is that everyone reminds them of the Rock.
Name some.

Go on, name some people who always say that. Name the people they've mentioned it about. You can't? Oh, that's right, because your argument is full of shit.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:47 AM   #55
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Burchill is great even as a brawler with a armbar finish.
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:05 PM   #56
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Yes, he's great as a generic wrestler.
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Ken Kennedy isn't great. He isn't bad. He has been on TV for 3 fucking weeks, he barley is noticable yet.
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I look for him to beat Benoit for the U.S. title before the year is over.
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Yes, he's great as a generic wrestler.
Considering there aren't any generic wrestlers in the WWE, he doesn't seem so generic.
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So what? There are better wrestlers in the WWE. There are better wrestlers who have been fired. Remember Ultimo Dragon?

Even popular wrestlers aren't allowed to cut loose. Do you really think these guys would be that spectacular in the WWE? Look at everyone talking about Burchill's greatness, and suddenly he's a brawler with an armbar finisher.
Right, and everyone's all up on this guy's shit like he's something fantastic. He's mediocre at best in all aspects of performing, and with the way people are hyping him it'd seem like he's going to make the company millions.
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I guess the first name that pops into mind are Orton and Cena........but you never really hear anybody talk about them being the next big thing anymore, do you KK? And if Orton and Cena couldn't do it, i'm betting Ken Kennedy can't.
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Kennedy beating Benoit before the year is over? Right....
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Running with "the ball"? There is no ball for Ken Kennedy. He's been on television for three weeks. He isn't even allowed to to touch the ball yet.

And earlier in this thread, I think somebody actually said that Kennedy reminded them of a young Steve Austin. Shut up. Every single time a new wrestler and looks talented, a bunch of people in this forum scream "He reminds me of the ROCK!!" What they aren't telling you is that everyone reminds them of the Rock.
They've given Kennedy TV time, and he's done more than he was expected to do with it. That's what I call running with the ball. Getting an opportunity and going at it all cylinders. Whether or not you like Mr Kennedy, you cannot deny he's made his own little impact.

People say people remind them of someone SOMETIMES because they do. John Cena reminded people of Sting because was the ruthless rookie trying to mke an impact. Randy Orton reminded people of The Rock because he was the young blue chipper turned arrogant asshole. Sometimes people remind people of other people because aspects of their characters are THE SAME. There is no crime in that.

And by the way, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ken Kennedy beat Chris Benoit for the WWE United States Championship this year. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
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Kayfabe is losing his smile.

Wait... Did he ever smile?

Your lack of faith in the business is disturbing.

Ideas for comeback: 'I find Vince's lack of faith in talented wrestlers disturbing' 'I lost my smile the same day Vince lost his mind' 'KENNEDY SUCKS!' That last one really isn't your style, though.
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I guess the first name that pops into mind are Orton and Cena........but you never really hear anybody talk about them being the next big thing anymore, do you KK? And if Orton and Cena couldn't do it, i'm betting Ken Kennedy can't.
Actually people still say that they are the "equivalent."

The people who have said it that I've seen generally admit they're not on the same level, but compare the roles. Apparently you're not good with the comprehension but though. You can name two people that posters claim are the next Rock "all the time?"

You lose. You failed to back up your argument, especially since the two examples you gave is wrong, both by your original statement, AND by the statement nobody says it anymore. You just don't understand what they're saying.

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Right, and everyone's all up on this guy's shit like he's something fantastic. He's mediocre at best in all aspects of performing, and with the way people are hyping him it'd seem like he's going to make the company millions.
So because you don't like him and think he's mediocre, you're going to cling to this assanine notion that if some other performer was in his place, they'd look what? Incredible? Yeah, because we really see Burchill and RVD bust loose. Damn, Nova's looking hot.

Oh wait.
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IMO, he's annoying on the microphone. When he starts talking I want to hit the mute button or turn it to something less annoying, like a Ready To Rumble movie marathon. And in the ring he's just like a run of the mill Heat jobber.

I mean I know people like him and all, that's cool...he just doesn't cut it for me.
He's been in two five minute matches. How the fuck can you tell how good he really is in the ring from that?
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