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Old 10-17-2005, 11:48 AM   #41
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:00 PM   #42
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Vito - hate to break it to you, the Red Sox aren't desperate to dump manny, only 3yrs left I think and he's one of the best hitters in the league and makes Ortiz a better hitter. Only way the dump him for nothing is if there are some big free agents they really want, and just don't see it.

Also, the sox/mets don't have the greatest relationship between the GM's, which would make it less likely for the sox to dump him to them.
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Manny can also decline any trade. I wouldn't be surprised to actaully see him dealt to another team and have him turn it down. That's something I'd expect from Manny haha

I don't see Damon in a Red Sox uniform next year. I do see Millar coming back for min. money. Hopefully they are able to pick up a better first baseman through FA tho
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Manny can also decline any trade. I wouldn't be surprised to actaully see him dealt to another team and have him turn it down. That's something I'd expect from Manny haha

I don't see Damon in a Red Sox uniform next year. I do see Millar coming back for min. money. Hopefully they are able to pick up a better first baseman through FA tho
I dunno on Damon and yeah, I forgot Manny's a 10/5 now. I think he'd ok the Mets due to Pedro, but who knows... of course he'd also probably get more money in the deal, "I'll take the trade, if they give me more money".

I dunno on Millar either... he pissed off a few people this year.

I really want to see Muellar back.
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Milwaukee?... Seems to be a team on the rise. Not sure if they'll ever be contenders or anythig.
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If they can get him they'd have an excellent rotation. With Clemens, Morris, and Mulder all possibly on the move it could maybe even be among the best in the division.

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Don't the Brewers have a few really young talented positional players too?
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ROFL Felix Heredia was suspended today

This should keep the Mets from picking up his option
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Joe Torre is back next year with the Yanks. Likely means Matsui will be back also.
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ROFL Felix Heredia was suspended today

This should keep the Mets from picking up his option
is that the guy that played like 3 games due to injury? but still failed a drug test?
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is that the guy that played like 3 games due to injury? but still failed a drug test?
Yep....he played in 3 games, all mop-up duty....and he failed a drug test

I wonder if he's the first player ever to be suspended for more games for a team than he actally played for them
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I wonder if more names will come out in the off season.
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It's possible that he got an OTC supplement to help heal with the injury. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Juan Rincon, he never took steroids.

Mark Bellhorn refused AAA assignment and is now a FA
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Ken Huckaby refused assignment. Well there goes the Jays Chances of making the playoffs next year
 
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It's possible that he got an OTC supplement to help heal with the injury. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Juan Rincon, he never took steroids.

Mark Bellhorn refused AAA assignment and is now a FA
Just wondering how you know for a fact Rincon never took roids? and what OTC's are banned under the policy? I thought the MLBPA was tough about making sure it was for roids only, not items that could be OTC unlike say the Olympics where many legal OTC drugs are banned.
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Found an interesting quote from Ortiz on the Rincon suspension.

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-- Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz, Rincon's former Twins teammate
Love to hear Ortiz tell the MLBPA that, they'd probably drug him and gag him.
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I wonder if more names will come out in the off season.
Yeah, where's this "great list of 50", that suposivly included Damon & Clemens.

Houston wins the WS, Clemens gets the MVP, wins a game, wins the CY Young, then it comes out that months ago he tested positive...
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Apparently Leo Mazzone just signed a deal with the Orioles to be their pitching coach. Was hoping he would come to the Yanks but wasn't really expecting it after hearing of how good of friends he is with Perlozzo.
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Don't think he has signed yet but yeah that is the word.
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and the best off season news the Boston Red Sox could ever hope for!

Dale Sveum is signed to be the 3b coach with Milwaukee!

Seeeeeeeeeeeeeya!

Sorry, I'm sure he's a real nice guy, but he was horrible at 3rd, his decision making was horrible. At least wendell "wave'em in" Kim, sent everyone.

Sveum, cost us runs both ways, sending guys he shouldn't, holding guys he shouldn't... sending guys against OF's with great arms, simply not doing his homework.
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I was looking for one of the Top 50 predictions or whatever for free agents and found this one.

http://www.rotoauthority.com/2005/10..._baseball.html

Don't really see some of those happening at all. What does everyone else think?

I do think Burnett will go with the highest bidding team.

LOL @ Kevin Brown to the White Sox btw
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Tom Gordon to the Mets? God I hope not...
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USA Today is reporting that a trade idea that would swap Beltran and Manny is being tossed around by the mets and Red Sox
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That would be THE most retarded trade ever, for both teams

Mets spend $60 mil on a great hitter with little defense while trading away a key component to their lineup PLUS a great glove...trading Beltran after one year would be the stupidest thing I have ever seen

The Red Sox get rid of a $60 million contract only to take in a $100 million contract
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I really dont want Manny Ramirez on Mets

How do both of their salaries compare?
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There's like no chance of it happening anyway. Both with no trade clauses and Beltran definately doesnt want to go anywhere
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How do both of their salaries compare?
The Sox have been wanting to get rid of Manny's $60 million contract...........yet in getting Beltran they'll be spending $100 million on him

I want Manny on the Mets....but there's certain guys that I consider to be "untouchable"....ie: the Sox can't have them and the Mets shouldn't even consider trading....Beltran being one of them.....if getting Manny meant having to deal a guy like Beltran, Wright, Reyes, Jacobs, Pedro (LOL just an example of an untouchable here), and to a lesser extent Milledge/Heilman, then I would say fuck Manny
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Manny doesn't have a "no trade" clause, but he's not a 10/5 so he has to approve any trades (i know, almost the same thing) but just pointing it out, because one reason the sox have lost on a few free agents is they refuse to give a no trade clause and I think if they do, then like 3-5 of their top players have clauses that kick in giving them a no trade, I know Manny had it and I think Nixon.

As for the contacts it would make sense for the sox in this sense.

Manny is 5yrs older then Beltran, and While Beltran has more years left and more money left, the money per year is around 5mil less then Manny.
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So, the big question in Boston is Theo Epstien the GM. Rumor is the sox first offer was over 1million away from what Theo wants.

Word is Luccino gets 1.5mil amd he would have to sign off on theo's contract, meaning Theo's probably looking at the 1-1.5mil range. If Theo really wants 2mil+, think George will give it to him? or even Philly who is rumored to be pressing for Cashman?

One funny thought has Theo going to NYY and Cashman coming here.
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Jim Duquette is no longer with the Mets organization

Now he's with the Orioles

Hmm, maybe the Mets should offer some trades to the O's....we all know how quick Duquette is to unload talent
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Sp, Manny's agent has said Manny would welcome a trade to Anhiem, and would also consider Clevland or Arizona. His agent said Manny doesn't want to go to the Mets.

what's funny is, Pedro said he knew Manny to the Mets would never happen because the Red Sox would wan't to much, I don't think Pedro understands, Manny doesn't want to go there.

This should be interesting, Manny has a meeting with the owners next week.
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Hmm, Wells has requested a trade apparently

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...quests_a_trade

Pretty funny how he went East Coast > West Coast > East Coast the past 3 years and is now going back out

Makes sense for the BoSox tho, opens a spot for Papelbon in the rotation
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