Demers: I'm illiterate

[VonErich Lives]

Originally Posted by Adder They were still his assistants, VEL. The assisted him. I know your argument will be they didn't assist him, they did the work. That isn't really here nor there though now is it. He makes the final decisions, therefore they were the assistance. If all he does is sign his name to a piece of paper, then he is still the one giving final approval. It's not like he's a retard, he's a great hockey mind that simply can't read. The lawyers and assistants do all the grunt work. Which is his bidding. He then approves it with a signature or a hand shake, the deal is approved.

This is true, however if he can't read he can't know what's on that contract.

When the offers came over from an agent he needed someone else to do it.

and yes, that is my point, they didn't "assist him" they did his job, and even he admits this.

I have nothing personal against the guy and I'm sure he's a great hockey mind, from a business stand point, I can't see someone handing him another GM job, knowing that he lied and wasted money etc...

I understand why he did it, don't get me wrong there. I'm not saying he didn't do "what was right for him" but he didn't do what was right for the team aka "the business".

[YOUR Hero]

If the team didn't want him to bring in other hockey people, they wouldn't of approved it. They afterall are the ones that have to pay for it. Regardless of why he brought them in, the team approved it.

[The Gooch]

Is his ability to write a contract more important than his ability to recognize and evaluate talent?

Secondly, it is unfair for any of us to question his integrity when we have never been put in that type of situation. I'm pretty sure most of us would have been deceptive if we were in a similar situation where outing oneself may result in the termination of our employment. We don't know whether he would have been fired from his GM position if he would have divulged his handicap so it is even unfair to speculate.

Lastly, nobody can take away his accomplishments on the ice. If he left RDS tomorrow I would guess there would be a few NHL teams knocking on his door about possible employment because his stats don't lie. So the team may have to pay an extra $40-50K to have an assistant for him. Who cares, when the end result is one of the best hockey minds in the business today?

[VonErich Lives]

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero If the team didn't want him to bring in other hockey people, they wouldn't of approved it. They afterall are the ones that have to pay for it. Regardless of why he brought them in, the team approved it.

Actually, a lot of GM's have power to bring people in.

Do you think the owners would have done it if they had known the reason?

[VonErich Lives]

Originally Posted by The Gooch Is his ability to write a contract more important than his ability to recognize and evaluate talent? Secondly, it is unfair for any of us to question his integrity when we have never been put in that type of situation. I'm pretty sure most of us would have been deceptive if we were in a similar situation where outing oneself may result in the termination of our employment. We don't know whether he would have been fired from his GM position if he would have divulged his handicap so it is even unfair to speculate. Lastly, nobody can take away his accomplishments on the ice. If he left RDS tomorrow I would guess there would be a few NHL teams knocking on his door about possible employment because his stats don't lie. So the team may have to pay an extra $40-50K to have an assistant for him. Who cares, when the end result is one of the best hockey minds in the business today?

Let me be clear, I'm not questioning his integrity, I'm not saying I wouldn't have done the same thing (or that I would, really don't know till you're in the situation), I'm not taking away anything he did on the Ice.

All I said would he will not get another "hockey job" after this. He won't get a front office job and I wouldn't be shocked if he wasn't offered a coaching job either.