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Old 11-13-2005, 12:26 AM   #41
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Flair is the definition of High Spots. He started the high spot. But ok, lemme re-phrase this, Flair wasnt the most versatile guy. And it still break away from my point, Flair put prestige back into the IC title NOW, and NOW his ass isnt versatile OR very athletic. But im glad its on him. Flair made me kinda realize that so called 'main eventers' always seem to become boring, and the reason is because they never really battle for any belt other than the main championship, yknow? So to see someone who was, and still may be, a main eventer take that IC title, and show PRIDE in taking that title, isnt a good change of pace.


Flair wasn't versatile?? He could put on a GREAT match with anyone. In his prime he could have made Chris Masters look like Kurt Angle. And Flair wasn't athletic??? Why? Cause he couldn't do a moonsault? And Flair was the definition of High Spot?? No, he was the definition of the word WRESTLER. He was the total package. And at 56, he's still putting on better matches than guys 30 years his younger.

I'm not marking for Flair, by any means, but one must recognize talent.
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:40 AM   #42
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Bottom line, is WWE going to "Virgil" Benjamin? Is he going to become a 21st century Koko B. Ware? It would be a bad compromising of his talents. I think this kid has alot to bring to the table and will have his day. Seriously, when that is unfortunately will be later than sooner for this fan.
I don't know if he'll have his day. They're already ignoring his massive overness, and with TNA the only viable option, there's no reason to push him, any more than there was one to push Captain Charisma.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:21 AM   #43
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Flair wasn't versatile?? He could put on a GREAT match with anyone. In his prime he could have made Chris Masters look like Kurt Angle. And Flair wasn't athletic??? Why? Cause he couldn't do a moonsault? And Flair was the definition of High Spot?? No, he was the definition of the word WRESTLER. He was the total package. And at 56, he's still putting on better matches than guys 30 years his younger.

I'm not marking for Flair, by any means, but one must recognize talent.

It's pointless to argue over whether or not Ric Flair was "athletic" in his day, because that word can mean different things for different people. Some baseball players are athletic because they can belt a ball out of the stands on a regular basis, but they can't dribble a basketball for shit. Gymnists are athletic because of the amazing ways they can bend and move their bodies in mid-air, but maybe they couldn't score a goal in soccer if their lives depended on it.

Flair was athletic because he could work a good match with almost anyone, and he could go the distance back when wrestlers were expected to have 60 minute matches every night. However, he could never do a moonsault, he could never do a flying headscissors or a huricanrana, and it's nearly impossible for him to do a top rope bump that ISN'T his trademark beale toss.

Still, I'm gonna have to go ahead and say that Flair is not athletic by any means today. He gets winded far too quickly, he works far too slowly, and he doesn't have a whole lot of impact on his moves.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:46 AM   #44
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This is true, more or less.

However, let's keep away from whether Flair was atheletic, because it didn't matter back when he could work a match. Now he's old, out of shape, and far less entertaining. He doesn't have the chops to be a wro wrestler, and he doesn't have the chops to be an athelete in general.

Flair was awesome. One of the best wrestlers in his generation. It doesn't even need to be said most of the time. The guy in the ring now is just a joke, especially when wrestling has changed so much. And yet he's still better than Steiner. Flair gets winded, Steiner looked like he was gonna die.

Damn you, Edge and Christian!
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