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Old 12-12-2005, 01:03 AM   #41
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I've seen Joe in ROH (live actually) , still not overly impressed.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:04 AM   #42
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:06 AM   #43
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Here's the problem though.

RoH isn't televised.

The fanbase will jduge him on what they see, and honestly, I'm not impressed. And I've SEEN THE GUY IN ACTION before, it's just that he's shit in TNA.

It's like Burchill, or the Cruiserweights. Doesn't much matter how good you are if your finisher is a sholderbreaker/armbar or your moveset is banned.
I get what you are saying and I'm not really disargeeing with you, but I think Joe has lived up to the hype.

He's been good in every match he's had in TNA. Those kicks he does look really painful, and I'm sure they are. He is definitely the quickest guy I have ever seen for his size. His personatly to is great.

Take it for what it's worth, but submissions are not I'm buying Samoa Joe has a great wrestler.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:08 AM   #44
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Then they need to stop telling us he's a submission machine then. False Advertising isn't something TNA needs right now.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:11 AM   #45
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Brock Lesnar was bigger, quicker, a better wrestler, is more captivating, and did more submission moves Thus Joe being "big and quick" isn't overly impressive to me.

Plus if we're talking "chubby/fat" big and quick then Bam Bam trumps him in that category as well. Bam Bam was a better overall wrestler as well, plus he had flames tattooed on his fuckin head (that's gotta count for something) .

Thus Joe isn't that impressive regardless. Again, good but not exceptional.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:12 AM   #46
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From what I've seen, I really like Somoa Joe. BUT I have only seen him in squash matches on Impact. I normally hate squash matches too. He seems like a pretty solid worker, but I'll have to wait to see him a big one on one match.

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Old 12-12-2005, 01:14 AM   #47
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Also, where the crap did all my sweet ass positive rep go? I had it full... TO THE MAX! Yeah, I really don't care.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:14 AM   #48
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I'm kinda the same way. Good technical skill, quick for a guy his size, but I don't really think he's the next big thing. I'm kinda curious why, exactly, he counts as an X Division wrestler. I know it's not about weight limits, but he's not exactly Chris Sabin out there.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:15 AM   #49
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btw, I don't know what Colt calls that move, but that fucking fall back double knee gut buster is extremely cool
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:20 AM   #50
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:24 AM   #51
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:32 AM   #52
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:40 AM   #53
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i have to say....

tonight's AJ/Joe match might very well be match of the year.
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:28 AM   #56
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The champ is here
The champ is here
The champ is here
The champ is here

Niggaz know the champ is in here
He took it from crack to rap, now he put out two anthems a year
And I just wanna rock for a century
And then chase the book wit the documentry
If you cant do nothing other than flow
Life's a bitch like the mother from blow, lets go
Don't make me put your heart on your lap
Fuck ridin a beat nigga, I parallel park on a track
Hop out looking crispy, fresh and new
In a six but it's a BM and its Pepsi blue
And I don't know you
But I know a man becomes a man from all the shit that he go through
Y'all ain't fuckin wit Jason
After I cash in there's really no justification
Of how I'm gon change tha game
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The NEW TNA X-Division Champion.....SAMOA JOE
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:42 AM   #57
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:27 AM   #58
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Anyody know where I can download AJ Vs. Joe? Living in the UK, we don't get it for another 5 weeks...
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:01 PM   #59
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:10 PM   #60
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Ok, kiddies, I think it's time for a little history lesson!
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Randy Orton shows up, has a flashy finisher & goes over in a bunch of decisive victories.

Smart Fans: "WE LOOOOVE RANDY ORTON! HE'S THE FUTURE OF WRESTLING! THEY NEED TO GET THE TITLE ON HIM & KEEP IT ON HIM!"

3-4 months after Orton has won the title: "GRRRR! WE HATE RANDY ORTON! HE NEEDS TO DROP THE TITLE, DIE & GO TO HELL!"
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John Cena shows up, has a flashy finisher & goes over in a bunch of decisive victories.

Smart Fans: "WE LOOOOVE JOHN CENA! HE'S THE FUTURE OF WRESTLING! THEY NEED TO GET THE TITLE ON HIM & KEEP IT ON HIM!"

3-4 months after Cena has won the title: "GRRRR! WE HATE JOHN CENA! HE NEEDS TO DROP THE TITLE, DIE & GO TO HELL!"
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Samoa Joe shows up, has a flashy finisher & goes over in a bunch of decisive victories.

Smart Fans: "WE LOOOOVE SAMOA JOE! HE'S THE FUTURE OF WRESTLING! THEY NEED TO GET THE TITLE ON HIM & KEEP IT ON HIM!"

Looks like Joe's gonna have a rough online life in a coupla months.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:25 PM   #61
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To be fair, though, once Orton and Cena won the titles, their gimmicks changed completely, and the way they played their heel gimmicks were why we loved them to begin with.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:26 PM   #62
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How dare you mention Joe's name lumped in with commoners like Orton and Cena...

Also Joe held the ROH World Title for roughly 20 months, I can handle him holding titles for a while.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:55 PM   #63
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I like Joe, he reminds me of Vader in a monster heel sense. I just wish he could open up his arsenal more in TNA, like he did in RoH. Joe has had a great year from his first match to AJ Styles, to the Triple Threat w/ Daniels and Styles. Plus who can forget his match with Kenta Kobashi or the tag match from Unforgettable?

With that being said, Joe is the kinda wrestler that needs a good opponet to fully shine. Im not saying he needs someone to carry him, but he isn't like a Kurt Angle or Ric Flair(circa 1985) that can have a good match with anyone.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:35 PM   #65
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To be fair, though, once Orton and Cena won the titles, their gimmicks changed completely, and the way they played their heel gimmicks were why we loved them to begin with.
And Joe's in a promotion with no gimmicks at all...Unless being on drugs and high on housepaint counts...
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:57 PM   #67
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I like Joe, he reminds me of Vader in a monster heel sense. I just wish he could open up his arsenal more in TNA, like he did in RoH. Joe has had a great year from his first match to AJ Styles, to the Triple Threat w/ Daniels and Styles. Plus who can forget his match with Kenta Kobashi or the tag match from Unforgettable?
The brawl with Low Ki and Homicide from Punk: The Final Chapter

The amazing 4 way between Joe, Delirious, Jack Evans, and Ebatorah

The rematches against Aries
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:23 PM   #68
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:30 PM   #69
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:32 PM   #70
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The Avalanche Muscle Buster he gave to Homicide back in 2003 was absolutely sick, it looked like Homicide was legit hurt.

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Old 12-12-2005, 06:39 PM   #71
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My Final Heaven - Uhhhhh...I think that wasn't exactly a good argument. Case and point...I STILL love Rnady Orton, think he is the future of wrestling, and I thought they should have kept the title off of him until at least Mania 22 and have him go through some classic wars for the IC Title and World Title teases for a few years...John Cena sucks (always and forever)...Samoa Joe isn't the future, the next big thing, or even hype worthy. He is nothing more then a guy who is kind of big, stiff, and has a few interesting moves that if Sonjay Dutt did he would be labled usless. BORING. I don't notice much ban-wagon jumping going on...except MISTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KENNEDY....






































































....and he sucks too.
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No Kennedy sucks. Back on the "why do people overrate Samoa Joe" question, another thing might be because he brings, as Paul Heyman would say, a "big fight atmosphere" with him.
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No Kennedy sucks. Back on the "why do people overrate Samoa Joe" question, another thing might be because he brings, as Paul Heyman would say, a "big fat atmosphere" with him.
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