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Old 01-06-2006, 06:10 PM   #41
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Ah well it was good while it lasted.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:54 PM   #42
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I'm not surprized... but I'm sure Kid Kash will soon follow in Juventud's footsteps.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:54 PM   #43
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I'm not surprized... but I'm sure Kid Kash will soon follow in Juventud's footsteps.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:56 PM   #44
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Good. I think the negatives outweighed the positives.
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:14 PM   #45
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The Juice was so watered down in WWE.

Hopefully he'll go to TNA and we'll have a return of his hilarious mic work that was in WCW.
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:31 PM   #46
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*spoilers*

In the last few months, Guerrera reportedly burnt many bridges with several WWE wrestlers after they tried speaking with him about his actions only to see Juventud blow them off. The feeling by many WWE workers was that it was only a matter of time that he would get released by WWE. One recent report has indicated that the "last straw" after a series of warnings by WWE management to Juventud took place at the SmackDown tapings this past Tuesday in Wilkes Barre, PA when Juventud and Kid Kash went over their scheduled match by many minutes.

Credit: Mike Johnson @ PWInsider.com
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Old 01-06-2006, 09:41 PM   #47
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He botched a 450 splash, which almost crushed Paul London's face, and continued to do moves that he was explicitly told to avoid. He also defied management by using certain guestures and mannerisms in the ring, claming he needed them to get himself over. Even stablemates Psicosis and Super Crazy had been getting sick of Juventud's ways recently and tried to distance themselves from him. Yet some of you want to praise this guy?!? He got exactly what he was asking for.
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Old 01-06-2006, 09:45 PM   #48
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Old 01-06-2006, 10:00 PM   #49
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So this is how we get punished for getting to watch a good match.
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Old 01-06-2006, 10:13 PM   #50
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So this is how we get punished for getting to watch a good match.
I'll repeat what I wrote earlier.

He botched a 450 splash, which almost crushed Paul London's face.

You call that a good match?
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Old 01-06-2006, 10:20 PM   #51
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I meant the match with Kid Kash.
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I meant the match with Kid Kash.
from Armageddon?
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Old 01-06-2006, 10:29 PM   #53
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lmao. i didn't think this was a serious post.
i was expecting "from my shorts" as the first post.

no one saw this coming =/
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Old 01-07-2006, 12:31 AM   #54
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Wow....that's just expected.

Honestly...how long was the Juice going to last with his antics?
Normally I think Shadow is a fucking moron, but I gotta say I see eye to eye with what he said about The Juice. With the shit he has tried to pull off, and the shit he has... Yeah, this isn't something shocking.
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Old 01-07-2006, 12:39 AM   #55
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Normally being a prick backstage just brings you into the inner circle.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:11 AM   #56
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Old 01-07-2006, 03:54 AM   #57
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Poor Juvi. That guy was awesome, at least he can run wild in TNA. When the guy gets going he's great. He botched a 450 Splash, so what. London's botched stuff, too. It happens. Juvi was good in the ring, and it's a shame they had to let him go, but he kinda brought it upon himself.

At least now they can give Funaki a solid push towards the title...
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Old 01-07-2006, 04:24 AM   #58
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Old 01-07-2006, 05:25 AM   #59
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Poor Juvi. That guy was awesome, at least he can run wild in TNA. When the guy gets going he's great. He botched a 450 Splash, so what. London's botched stuff, too. It happens.
Exactly. Finally someone with a bit of common sense.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:23 AM   #60
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...When the guy gets going he's great. He botched a 450 Splash, so what. London's botched stuff, too. It happens.
You're missing the point though. Yes, people make mistakes and botches do happen. Wrestlers don't get fired becasue they botch (otherwise Lita would be a regular at the social security office). People get fired because they botch moves which management have told them specifically not to do.

It'd be like a McDonald's employee burning his hand accidentally on the grill. He wouldn't get fired for that. But if he burnt his hand (and put fellow employees at risk also) for messing round with the grill and doing stuff he has been told specifically not to do then he'd be fired.

Juvi screwed Juvi. Which is a dam shame because he's an excellent talent.
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Old 01-07-2006, 06:57 PM   #61
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Exactly. Finally someone with a bit of common sense.
Does Paul London act like a fucking egomaniacle ass backstage? NO.
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:54 PM   #62
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Old 01-08-2006, 08:41 AM   #63
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Does Paul London act like a fucking egomaniacle ass backstage? NO.
What's that gotta do with anything? There are guys I work with who I don't get on with but as long as they do their work to the standard expected and don't fuck it up for others then it's none of my business. Why is pro wrestling any different?
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What's that gotta do with anything? There are guys I work with who I don't get on with but as long as they do their work to the standard expected and don't fuck it up for others then it's none of my business. Why is pro wrestling any different?
But when the guy who's acting like the cock backstage is a bona fide star and has been around for a while then they can get away with it. Juvi didn't because he was a relative newbie.

Using your analogy, it'd be like your boss acting like a cunt and getting away with it because he/she is integral to the company, and then some temp turning up late and arsing around with the photocopier and getting fired... because he's a fucking temp!
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:33 AM   #65
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Not that's not the same at all. Your boss is your boss and if he doesn't stop your work then there ain't a problem. Temps breaking machines affects work and thus deserves punishment. If Juvi went and smashed up 6 monitors for the sake of it then you'd have a point. You don't have to get on with people to be good at your job. Nobody complained about HHH in 2000 because he was working his arse off and was probably the wrestler of the year. It's when his work went downhill and he used his politics to stop others performing to their potential that people went sour on him.
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But HHH and JBL would be the proverbial shift managers or team leaders in the department who have cemented themselves in the company (for whatever reason, whether it be politicing or hard work) and are therefore forgiven for most of their misdemeanors. Meanwhile, Juvi has new to the company. His CV already showed he was a bit of a loose cannon and when you directly disobey instructions and fuck around with the monitors, photocopier or look at porn on the internet, you're gonna find yourself without a job very soon.
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...and trust me, I've been both the HHH and the Juvi of companies at different times.
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But HHH and JBL would be the proverbial shift managers or team leaders in the department who have cemented themselves in the company (for whatever reason, whether it be politicing or hard work) and are therefore forgiven for most of their misdemeanors. Meanwhile, Juvi has new to the company. His CV already showed he was a bit of a loose cannon and when you directly disobey instructions and fuck around with the monitors, photocopier or look at porn on the internet, you're gonna find yourself without a job very soon.
How about sexually assulting people? Yet Randy Orton, Edge and JBL all still have jobs?

In the ring, Juvi has done the business and that's what he is paid to do.
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What backstage shit has he done, I havent heard anything about it.
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And what about Randy Orton and Chris Masters for botching promos? Orton stutters so much that I think he is doing Matt Morgan's old gimmick.
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Old 01-08-2006, 05:52 PM   #74
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How about sexually assulting people? Yet Randy Orton, Edge and JBL all still have jobs?

In the ring, Juvi has done the business and that's what he is paid to do.
You're missing the point. Edge and JBL still have their jobs because they are established talents. They can get away with stupid shit like this because they've been on the roster for so long, think about what Holly does.

Juvi had to go because A) he was constantly disobeying management. He wasn't just being a nuisance of a fool, he was putting two fingers up in the air to management all together and B) he wasn't enough of a veteran or star to get away with it.
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Chavo, to make that point, you had to ignore his naming of Orton, and stretch edge's establishment.

Any time you have to take two steps to dodge someone's logic, you admit he has something you need to avoid.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:05 PM   #76
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