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Old 01-08-2006, 03:08 AM   #41
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Am I one of the scant few who actually think it's good that the divas are starting to learn to actually wrestle and not be useless underwear and costume models? I used to like women's wrestling and am glad it's coming back in some form. Hey, at least they got rid of Amy Weber, made Jillian Hall, Candice and Maria wrestle, and sent Michelle McCool down to OVW to train. I think it's a step in the right direction.

As for Christian, WWE really dropped the ball there. He's like the only reason I bother to tune into TNA anymore, and he's not really shining like he should there either.

As for Batista and Cena, I think Batista's doing great as the WHC, for what it's worth. Since Eddie was most likely supposed to win the belt from him at this point, WWE has nothing planned for the WHC, so it's on the backburner until they can straighten things out. Perfectly understandable.

As for Cena, he's getting mixed face and heel reactions (quasi-X-Pac heat), but I think he's doing all right as champion. At least they're not coming anywhere near their 30-something-time title change that occured in 1999 or something like that. They're making the title mean something by making it won only on important occasions and after lengthy storylines and angles.
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Old 01-08-2006, 03:26 AM   #42
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Anytime I see the Undertaker in the WWE ring, I am reminded of the state of WCW was in when fans began to lose interest because guys like Hogan, Nash and all the old men that wouldn't retire held down the next generation of future stars.
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Old 01-08-2006, 01:23 PM   #43
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I agree with most of the things in this thread, Vince really has done shit this year.I guess you could say that a blunder of 2005 was that the roster split continued.
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Old 01-08-2006, 02:40 PM   #44
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1. edge kane lita

2. coach at the announce table.

3. cristian & jericho leaving

4. shawn not staying heel

5. juice being fired (lol)
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Old 01-08-2006, 03:37 PM   #45
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I will not say that Vince McMahon hasn't had some to do with the company's success. However, this man has to realize what the hell he is doing.

-HHH's days as the top man in the business i feel are behind him. He will not draw the way he used to back in 00'-'01. And for him to bury and/or hold down potentials that the WWE will NEED to keep the company running, then that is just selfishness and not looking into the future in his part. Period. I don't really care if i get heat for "HHH bashing" but its the damn truth and everyone knows it. i dont take anything away from what he has done with the likes of Austin, Rock, Mankind, Angle, etc. but you MUST think about the future.

-I personally think Vince has taken in more credit than due. i don't think that Vince told The Rock, Mankind, HHH, or other stars how to use their characters. From what i hear, that was improvision from the actual stars, along with writers. I personally believe the last thing he had something to do with was the "Mr. America" angle and/or those repetitive drafts. Has his name on too much shit.

-Potential fueds that could have been just piss me off. Christian/Cena. That right there could have made Christian one of the premiere babyfaces and Cena a dominant heel. Cena was way over due for a heel turn anyway. Why not do it then. Christian was already getting some "Orton" heel pops. Shelton, i dont even want to get into this that much. The man was one of those guys that made you think "its only a matter of time" when he defeated HHH 2x. But post WM21, i dont know what the hell is going on.

-Paul Heyman should be, if he's still there..i haven't been keeping up, higher up as a booker or official than he is. Ideas, ideas, ideas.....If it wasn't for this man's idea of hardcore wrestling, the WWE wouldn't have had an "Attitude Era".

Sorry, i just had to rant. i really think that Vince took both WCW and ECW's good points and made his own out of those two, which is a good brainstorm, but he gets WAY too much credit IMO.

Just SOME stuff off my chest.
--HHH could easily be the top heel again, if he actually tried. But he hasn't in nearly 5 years. I used to be a HUGE fan of Triple H, bt it's like watching Hogan or Taker...He's phoning it in. The difference between him and Hogan is that he could probably still do a major and interesting feud, and even put in a few MOTY candidates.

--Vince is one of the luckiest bastards on the planets. Hogan, Austin, and the Rock fell into his lap. It's not to say he's done nothing, but he takes credit for genius.

--Christian Cena was a horrible prick-tease. These fuckers need to wake up.

--Heyman will never get to actually have creative control in the WWE. Which is a shame, since they were looking for Rhods to do some IIRC.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:07 PM   #46
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:25 PM   #47
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Definately not having the Cena/Christian WWE championship feud. Should have been the Summerslam main-event

Also not keeping HBK a heel. He was by far the best heel in the business during his summerslam feud with Hogan

And totally burrying Angle in his feud with Cena.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:03 AM   #48
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John Cena

They had the greatest thing going with him going into 2005 he was so awesome dfhsljhjgjfdg they blew it with him.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:20 AM   #49
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A Blunder of 2005? Keeping Tista and Cena champs for almost a year after WM21.
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Old 01-09-2006, 05:19 PM   #50
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Sounds to me like the greatest blunder for YOU was keeping the TV on. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:32 PM   #51
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Sounds to me like the greatest blunder for YOU was keeping the TV on. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Luckly i didnt watch wwe for its championship matches, that is if you are talking to me. And have you ever seen a herion addict who says they dont like doing herion...but do it any way? Kinda like me as a wwe fan on some weeks.
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:34 PM   #52
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Sounds to me like the greatest blunder for YOU was keeping the TV on. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Losing battle. Everyone and their momma has an excuse for why they keep watching./
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:36 PM   #53
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Luckly i didnt watch wwe for its championship matches, that is if you are talking to me. And have you ever seen a herion addict who says they dont like doing herion...but do it any way? Kinda like me as a wwe fan on some weeks.
But you DO watch it, tardboy, and that's all they need.
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But you DO watch it, tardboy, and that's all they need.
oh im fully aware of that entire statement, ill watch it till i die.....feel like its a marraige really....at least herion gives you a high everytime. WWE...eh last night was nice, but we ALL rare that was.
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:48 PM   #55
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That's fucking stupid.

But I don't expect any less from you.
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:57 PM   #56
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Like defending the husband that beats you?
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Old 01-09-2006, 11:07 PM   #57
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Indeed, O'neill.
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That's fucking stupid.

But I don't expect any less from you.
As long as we understand each other
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Old 01-09-2006, 11:46 PM   #59
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Does the ant understand the hand that holds the magnifying glass?

Youdon't understand me.
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Does the ant understand the hand that holds the magnifying glass?

Youdon't understand me.
Does the child holding the magnafying glass understand he could be doing a lot better things? Its all crystal clear KK....crystal

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Old 01-10-2006, 09:47 AM   #61
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And again, proof that you don't get it.
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Old 01-10-2006, 10:44 AM   #62
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Losing battle. Everyone and their momma has an excuse for why they keep watching./
Oh, I'm not trying to make it a battle. I'm just reminding everyone of the painfully obvious. You know I'm good for that.
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:55 PM   #63
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I dont thinkt hey've made that many mistakes this year in the sense of doing something like the Katie Vick angle or refusing to push WCW, etc.

I think for the most part hey have made the right moves, its just not very entertaining.

Its not like they had a ton of guys who were cazy over and drawing money. They have protected Batista and Cena fairly well, much better than I thought they would.

They kept HHH off TV and even now that he's back, others are allowed to take the spotlight, even though its clear he's coming back for his spot.

They let some programs develop over several months. Taker-Orton, Eddie-Rey, Cena-Angle all had time to develop.

The HBK-Hogan program was done perfectly IMO.

Of course all that said, I have very little interest right now, so maybe that kinda flies in the face of the praise I'm senidng out.

They did let Christian go, but at the same time we all know they never intended on pushing him, so for Christian fans the WWE did us all a favour by not trying to re-sign him.

Eddie being Dominic's son was probably a bad idea, but hey thats life in wrestling.

The Austin-Hogan deal was the right move, but with the egos it was bound to fall aparat.

Cena sucks in the ring, but it hasn't really hurt business in any way, so I cant say thats a really bad thing.

I dont know, I just dont see any glaring errors that they made this year.
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