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Old 02-06-2006, 04:35 PM   #41
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yeah 2005 he jobbed more then ever.

Also HBK is still an active member of the roster and arguebly the best in the WWE so HBK doesn't have to put over the young guys now even though he all ready has started to.

Also about Benoit tapped HBk out to the Sharpshooter in CANADA, but nobody remembers that.
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Old 02-06-2006, 05:08 PM   #42
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HBK can't be too pissed. At least he knew the outcome of the match BEFORE it happened. I was just waiting for Hogan to start tuning up the band.
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Old 02-06-2006, 07:14 PM   #43
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rajah is not very reliable but if it's true i can see why hbk was pissed over the hogan thing cause he fucking carried hogan


I have always found that rajah in the past to be very reliable and they dont post all the crap they hear.
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Old 02-06-2006, 07:19 PM   #44
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Anyone who does the job to a simple leg drop has every right to be pissed off.
Anyone who thinks they can out-politic Hogan loses any such right.
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:57 PM   #45
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HBK whining about working with lower level guys and doing a job? That's par for the motherfucking course right there.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:43 AM   #46
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And that post made it sound like you didn't know what the fuck we were talking about. Try to get your sarcasm to actually work and not make you look like a retard.
I simply made a short sarcastic remark[1st reply]. Then enters the one person on this board that could twist it into something totally different. Your obvious grasp of sarcasm related to humor[meant to be funny] is horrid. Try thinking before replying. Gotta use discretion....

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And, just for the record, Triple H (better known to you as "The Lame") is better than almost the entire TNA roster as far as skill and psychology goes.
You say you like TNA, then say HHH["the Lame"] is better than almost the "entire roster"? Have you watched an X-Division match lately? I see them doing things HHH could only DREAM of doing. Granted, some[AJ Styles] are mostly spot monkies, but, others are good. Triple H has an advantage as far as psychology goes though. You are correct there. However, once TNA guys learn[which they learn through experience] I'm sure they'll be just as good. Christopher Daniels, for example, uses psychology. He knows when, where to use it and also incorporates technicality with brawling and occasional high spots. In short, Triple H SHOULD be adjusted, as he's been in WWE since 1995. TNA, on the other hand, is relatively new. It'll take the newer talents time to learn what "veterans" such as Triple H know.

At least TNA wrestlers[for the most part] don't politic to get where they are. They EARN their spots. I'm not anti-WWE. Simply anti-HHH. There's a difference between the two.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:52 AM   #47
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What do you hate about Triple H in the ring? Forget promos, forget backstage, what's wrong with him IN THE RING? He's a wrestler. Let's pretend that wrestling should be the main part of the show.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:54 AM   #48
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Too bad I've said on many occasions that I don't dispise TNA, I just think they have a LOOONG way to go. They have a good roster, but a good size of it is shit, and so is the WWE's, for that matter.

It's a shame that it seems only WWE fans (bar a few exceptions for TNA) can actually say that their favorite product can be shit. (We'll leave Jarrett out of that since Jarrett seems to be one wrestler TNA fans agree on.)

And that post made it sound like you didn't know what the fuck we were talking about. Try to get your sarcasm to actually work and not make you look like a retard.

And, just for the record, Triple H (better known to you as "The Lame") is better than almost the entire TNA roster as far as skill and psychology goes.
Better than all but CHRIS MOTHERFUCKING SABIN
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What do you hate about Triple H in the ring? Forget promos, forget backstage, what's wrong with him IN THE RING? He's a wrestler. Let's pretend that wrestling should be the main part of the show.
Don't get me wrong. I give Triple H his due. He's damn good in the ring[although he was better back around 1999 or 2000]. Triple H will be remembered as the Ric Flair of his generation.

Yes, he is a wrestler. He's also a politician who uses his promos,backstage,etc to influence every aspect of the show and hold people back. It's evident every time he's near a mic. That's why I'm anti-Lame.

We can't "pretend" wrestling is the main part of the show, as 95% of it is promos, backstage, etc. Wrestling is hardly used except for the opener and main events. Entertainment is king of WWE. I like entertainment, but, too much of anything is bad. And with such gimmicks as Eugene, Boogeyman, The Dicks, etc, entertainment overkill happens. If WWE actually used the wrestlers that had GOOD characters to advance storylines, their shows would drastically improve.
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:13 AM   #50
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:12 AM   #51
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You say you like TNA, then say HHH["the Lame"] is better than almost the "entire roster"? Have you watched an X-Division match lately?
He said in terms of skill and ring psychology. There's almost no psychology to almost every X-Division match. You fail.
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He said in terms of skill and ring psychology. There's almost no psychology to almost every X-Division match. You fail.
As far as the skill aspect goes, Triple H is no better than the younger guys. I've seen awesome X-Division matches that totally eclipse anything Triple H has done yet.

No psychology? Have you ever witnessed a Christopher Daniels match? Nuff said. Fail? How so?
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:27 PM   #53
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As far as the skill aspect goes, Triple H is no better than the younger guys. I've seen awesome X-Division matches that totally eclipse anything Triple H has done yet.

No psychology? Have you ever witnessed a Christopher Daniels match? Nuff said. Fail? How so?
Neither of us have said anything that would indicate one person can tip the scales.

Chris Daniels by himself does not change the lack of psychology in the majority of X-Division competitors. You can bring in Sabin if you want too. Doesn't stop the majority of the competitors from being shitty spotfest wannabes. Triple H may not fall from high places, but he's got an assload more skill than most of the guys who do.
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Neither of us have said anything that would indicate one person can tip the scales.

Chris Daniels by himself does not change the lack of psychology in the majority of X-Division competitors. You can bring in Sabin if you want too. Doesn't stop the majority of the competitors from being shitty spotfest wannabes. Triple H may not fall from high places, but he's got an assload more skill than most of the guys who do.
I admitted earlier that the X-Division[namely AJ Styles] depends too much on spotfests. That's easy to see. That's one aspect of the X-Division TNA needs to insist on changing once TNA gets a longer Impact: Psychology in the ring. Also, most X-Division wrestlers don't have a good character. Once they can get these things right, they would make WWE's "Cruiserweight" division look sick[although WWE has Jamie Knoble, Brian Kendricks, Paul London, Kid Kash, etc, they are RARELY showcased on TV. Still waiting to see the debut of Helms ].

And as I clearly stated above, yes, Triple H is good. However, he's not good enough to single-handly save the WWE. His grasp on ring psychology is good. And his skill is so-so[he was much better around the 1999-2000 timeframe though]. He used to be one of my favs until he started playing the politic game. He main-events Wrestlemania every year. WWE cannot get better until they learn to elevate younger talents @ Mania. Triple H probably doesn't have that much longer left in his career. He should, instead, focus on getting "over" younger top stars. He's probably gonna wind up being an 11-time champ though @ Mania 22
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I like a lot of X-Division guys and TNA guys in general.

I do have issues with the way they've developed the promotion, and especially with Jarrett on top, I think they've made some mistakes and use gimmicks as a substitute for things like planning and booking...But they've got a SHITLOAD of talent.
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That's what I was meaning. TNA have alot of talent just waiting for the opportunity to be main-eventers. I agree with you about Jarrett though. He's quickly becoming the HHH of TNA and has been NWA Champion too long. I think they could also do well to get better announcers[as I hate Don West specifically]. Mike Tenay is ok, but, they could do better than him as well. I think they could bring in Jesse Ventura, DDP, or some other wrestler to do color commentary[which they are missing now] and perhaps Tony Schiavone or Jim Ross for play-by-play[that is, if Ross doesn't re-sign with WWE].

I just hope TNA will do the right thing by fixing the Jarrett situation @ Against All Odds by giving the NWA title to Christian[Cage].
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