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Old 02-11-2006, 02:25 PM   #41
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I don't think having a monument being built for you and not your son is helping any soilders
So you're saying she comissioned the piece? That's rather out of keeping with reality, but why let reality get in the way of a good rant?

(Also, ignore the fact that it leasts over 2 dozen names of the deceased on it, it certainly would bring no attention to them or the plight of soldiers).
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Old 02-11-2006, 02:27 PM   #42
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they will bury Eddie at Mania.
until then, piss on his dead lifeless corpse (shit in his bag).

it's WWE style. Flog the stain that used to be a dead horse.
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Old 02-11-2006, 02:31 PM   #43
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Hey I'm just saying what JBL told me.
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Old 02-11-2006, 02:33 PM   #44
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Hey I'm just saying what JBL told me.
Always a good way to go. I always trust a guy who bitches about how he's not allowed to honor his religion, then goes out of his way to violate the First Comandment.
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Old 02-11-2006, 03:38 PM   #45
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You know, I just really don't get this. It's almost like Vince is trying to make us buy this as a work. I really find it hard to believe that Vickie and the girls would really come to NWO just to see Orton make fun of Eddie.
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Whats next have a masked man come out pretend to be eddie,and when the mask is pulled off the person will have make up to look like Eddie
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Orton will be in the ring on SD after NWO and Eddie's theme will hit. Out will come a guy in a Guerrero mask and an I'm Your Papi shirt and get in the ring with Orton. Everyone will be booing thinking Orton's hired somebody to mock Eddie.

Then the masked man will reveal himself to be... EDDIE GUERRERO! He'll beat the crap out of Orton then address the crowd.

"Orale bato, everybody has been saying since November that Eddie Guerrero is dead... THEY LIED! VIVA LA RAZA!"

Then they'll make an Eddie Guerrero "I will not die!" shirt, and Matt Hardy will be screwed out of a gimmick.

It could happen...
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Old 02-11-2006, 07:39 PM   #48
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If Eddie came back, it'd be the last time I watched WWE for a long time.
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:38 PM   #49
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Rey won't quit, he's just as much to blame for this shit as anyone by going through with the angle. Fuck him. Rey is almost as bad as Cindy Sheehan, using someone's death to get over.
Fuck him, and fuck Chavo, Joey Styles, Benoit, and others who also remember Eddie in their matches, or is it just Rey that we're shitting on for doing that?

With all due respect, that's hypocrite talk right there.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:34 PM   #51
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Fuck him, and fuck Chavo, Joey Styles, Benoit, and others who also remember Eddie in their matches, or is it just Rey that we're shitting on for doing that?

With all due respect, that's hypocrite talk right there.
No, I have zero issue with remembering Eddie. Chavo doing the frogsplash is something I love, them preserving Eddie's legacy is something that a man such as he deserves. I think remembering Eddie is phenominal, going through with an angle that has your recently deceased best friend proclaimed to be in hell is horseshit however. That is in no means remembering Eddie, that's pissing on his damn legacy. Rey has the ability to say, this is bullshit, I'm not going to be a part of it, but no, that would mean no more push and he just can't have that happen.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:40 PM   #52
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So you're saying she comissioned the piece? That's rather out of keeping with reality, but why let reality get in the way of a good rant?

(Also, ignore the fact that it leasts over 2 dozen names of the deceased on it, it certainly would bring no attention to them or the plight of soldiers).
Ok so it has 2 dozen names on it, that's great. I love a tribute to troops, that does not change the fact that she's a self righteous bitch. If she wasn't in this to make herself famous (I'll accept she may be out to help troops, but I will not accept the fact that she isn't trying to make a name for herself in the process) than the statue would have been of her son or some unknown soldier, not her.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:41 PM   #53
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Fuck him, and fuck Chavo, Joey Styles, Benoit, and others who also remember Eddie in their matches, or is it just Rey that we're shitting on for doing that?

With all due respect, that's hypocrite talk right there.
There is a difference between respecting Eddie, and what Rey is doing. He's using Eddie fo an Angle. Chavo isn't. Benoit isn't.
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You dont bite the hand that feeds you, and i think thats Reys problem he is getting this push, winning Rumble and all that shit. Its more Vince and the Writers fault than Rey's. I dont know why WWE just dont drop it, hes gone he was great but he is GONE and he wont be comming back. Atleast Reys character is respecting Eddie by thanking him rather than Ortons character shitting on him, but still they dont need to use Eddie as a way to get over.
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Fuck that, you don't sacrifice yourself and your moral integrity to get a bigger paycheck. It's as much Rey's fault as the writers anyone. Rey knows Eddie's death is his chance for a world title push and he is willing to say screw it, I'll piss on my friends legacy for that.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:51 PM   #57
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Ok so it has 2 dozen names on it, that's great. I love a tribute to troops, that does not change the fact that she's a self righteous bitch. If she wasn't in this to make herself famous (I'll accept she may be out to help troops, but I will not accept the fact that she isn't trying to make a name for herself in the process) than the statue would have been of her son or some unknown soldier, not her.
She didn't commission it, someone else made it, you dumb fuck. They made it to a prominent figure, someone who has become a figurehead for the anti-war movement.

You're assuming she had some creative control, or retarded enough to think that others' actions are her fault. I'm not sure which, but either way, you're wrong and you foundation for your assumptions are totally faulty. Thanks for playing, but you're just looking for a reason to slam her. And grasping for some pretty stupid reasons.
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You dont bite the hand that feeds you, and i think thats Reys problem he is getting this push, winning Rumble and all that shit. Its more Vince and the Writers fault than Rey's. I dont know why WWE just dont drop it, hes gone he was great but he is GONE and he wont be comming back. Atleast Reys character is respecting Eddie by thanking him rather than Ortons character shitting on him, but still they dont need to use Eddie as a way to get over.
No, there is a point at which you stop licking the hand that feeds, and if someone is fucking up your family, the dude who's supposed to have been a brother to you, you should draw the line well before this point. Rey's character is respecting Eddie only because Rey is allowing Eddie to be dragged through the mud.
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Orton will be in the ring on SD after NWO and Eddie's theme will hit. Out will come a guy in a Guerrero mask and an I'm Your Papi shirt and get in the ring with Orton. Everyone will be booing thinking Orton's hired somebody to mock Eddie.

Then the masked man will reveal himself to be... EDDIE GUERRERO! He'll beat the crap out of Orton then address the crowd.

"Orale bato, everybody has been saying since November that Eddie Guerrero is dead... THEY LIED! VIVA LA RAZA!"

Then they'll make an Eddie Guerrero "I will not die!" shirt, and Matt Hardy will be screwed out of a gimmick.

It could happen...
Only if Eddie was Jesus. HOnestly dude...that's the dumbest idea ever. Really it is.
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Fuck that, you don't sacrifice yourself and your moral integrity to get a bigger paycheck. It's as much Rey's fault as the writers anyone. Rey knows Eddie's death is his chance for a world title push and he is willing to say screw it, I'll piss on my friends legacy for that.
I'm not sure if that is really what he is doing, or at least if that is what his intentions are.

And I think of it this way: What would you do if it was YOU in Rey's position? Remember, pro-wrestling is, has, and always will be a cut-throat, backstabbing business behind the scenes. To get to the top ANYWHERE, you will have to do whatever you must in order to get there. It's that way now in the WWE, it was in WCW, ECW, it may be in TNA, ROH, hell, XPW is LOADED with idiots who will stop at NOTHING for publicity (anyone who remembers what Rob Black was going to do with a former employee's dog on air will know just how low some wrestling promoters will go to).

What if Rey was in TNA or ROH? How would you think THEY would go about this? Do you think he would be able to get any better of a story, when, forgive me for saying it this way, there is a litteral GOLD MINE of an angle involving his long storied relationship with Eddie )and by the way, that long relationship is why I'm NOT bothered by the dedication thing. Because him and Eddie were VERY good friends, and I think Rey's entitled to dedicate as much as he desires)? I don't think anyone would be able to resist being able to keep themselves from at least considering it. Imagine, if it were TNA, Jarrett might want to dig up his remains and have a wrestling match against the corpse for his title (which he would win, I would suspect). And I don't even want to THINK about how Rob Black would've went about it (I would think that he would really anger us to the point where we would actually KILL the asshole). What I'm saying is that, at the least, for what it's worth, it's better than what it could be at this point (I know I'm gonna be neg repped for saying it that way, but considering how others could went about this, I say, we're damn lucky).

And plus, it's cheap, but Vince only cares about one thing right now: Is it WORKING?! Are the fans booing Randy to no end, and getting behind Rey? Right now, the heat and pops are going in the right directions in all of this. Hopefully there'll be a happy ending to all of this.

So what would you or anyone else actually DO in Rey's position? Yeah, it's a sick way of going about things, but considering how chances to get into the main event picture are few and far between in the wrestling world, I think people who are better men than Rey is (or, for that matter, WE are), would not even THINK about shitting on our friends before using them in these kinds of ways. Yeah, I know it sucks, but it's the way wrestling has always been behind the scenes.

And yeah, I'm sorry, but that's just how I think about all of this. I don't approve of the angle, either (when considering, moreso, that the person that is saying ths disparaging comments about Eddie is the one that is expected to WIN the NWO match, in front of Eddie's family, no less), I just think that this could be a LOT worse, even then, and if it was us, we would be doing the same thing.
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Only if Eddie was Jesus. HOnestly dude...that's the dumbest idea ever. Really it is.
Which means...there's a very good chance the WWE may TRY it.
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Hey guys dont get me wrong i really don't approve of the angle either and i think darkpower hit the nail of the head. Pro Wrestling is that type of business, alot of shit that happens (backstabbing ect.) but your have to think that Vince has always said any publicity is good publicity. Vinnie and most of the wrestlers just want to make the most amount of money they can, to an extent most superstars dont give a shit who they piss on or how they screw someone aslong as they get that extra heat or that big title shot.
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Hey guys dont get me wrong i really don't approve of the angle either and i think darkpower hit the nail of the head. Pro Wrestling is that type of business, alot of shit that happens (backstabbing ect.) but your have to think that Vince has always said any publicity is good publicity. Vinnie and most of the wrestlers just want to make the most amount of money they can, to an extent most superstars dont give a shit who they piss on or how they screw someone aslong as they get that extra heat or that big title shot.
except for the fact that rey shouldn't be helping to shit on Eddie's memory for those reasons because:

A) he's not getting near a title shot.
B) he's going back to midcard hell in April.

now unless he's getting a mega push to job to Greg Helms,
i really don't give a shit anymore.

and i do think Orton is a dick for actually agreeing to all this shit.
i know Trips would do it in a heartbeat, but seriously, not the best reason.

only Angle could pull off "eddie's in hell" and get a pop.
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What would I do? I would recognize that my damn integrity and my friend meant more to me than some stupid world title in a worked business. I would take my ball, and go home. If I were Rey, I'd know that I have more money than I need to for my life, and I'd respect myself and my friend enough not to drag his name through the mud so I could become (even more) famous.
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:29 AM   #65
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Really. Fuck Mysterio. Fuck Orton. But especially, fuck McMahon for allowing this kind of bullshit to take place.






I'm going to mark out if Eddie Guerrero isn't dead though.
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:31 AM   #66
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I would mark out for like a second then i would start a riot and kill off each of Vinnies family members, then torturing HHH infront of Vince before killing them both.
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:33 AM   #67
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If Guerrero is not dead and WWE screwed us over, it would be the ultimate screwjob on the fans. It would be bigger than Montreal
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:42 AM   #68
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(anyone who remembers what Rob Black was going to do with a former employee's dog on air will know just how low some wrestling promoters will go to).
What was he gonna do.
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:50 AM   #69
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If Guerrero is not dead and WWE screwed us over, it would be the ultimate screwjob on the fans. It would be bigger than Montreal
And Vincent Kennedy McMahon would do it, because he knows he could get away with it.
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What was he gonna do.
Feed it to a snake if I recall.
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Old 02-12-2006, 04:11 AM   #71
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Thats fucking sick and retarded at the same time
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:32 AM   #72
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Hey guys dont get me wrong i really don't approve of the angle either and i think darkpower hit the nail of the head. Pro Wrestling is that type of business, alot of shit that happens (backstabbing ect.) but your have to think that Vince has always said any publicity is good publicity. Vinnie and most of the wrestlers just want to make the most amount of money they can, to an extent most superstars dont give a shit who they piss on or how they screw someone aslong as they get that extra heat or that big title shot.
So you're condoning it because "that's the way it is."
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:38 AM   #73
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If Guerrero is not dead and WWE screwed us over, it would be the ultimate screwjob on the fans. It would be bigger than Montreal
Except it'd be more damaging, too.

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Old 02-12-2006, 10:44 AM   #74
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except for the fact that rey shouldn't be helping to shit on Eddie's memory for those reasons because:

A) he's not getting near a title shot.
B) he's going back to midcard hell in April.
I don't know about that now. I mean, yeah, at the time, it was a sad case to see that Mysterio was going to do BOTH A AND B. But given this news that Eddie's family will be invited to the event, I have to believe something is up. As low as I think McMahon is able to go, I don't think that's a place even he would be willing to go.

I'm thinking Vince is going to give the internet another slap in the face when he let's Rey WIN that match. Because this family invitation thing is just TOO bizzare, I'm thinking that maybe Vince is starting to think about Rey keeping the title shot.

Plus, remember, this is WRESTLEMANIA we're talking about. This is where Vince usually tries to do everything he possibly can to pull out all the stops. Just look at who was GOING to headling WM 21 and look who actually DID, and why the actual headliner did so.
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:59 AM   #75
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Benoit is a good actor if this is all fake. He should win an oscar or something.

This angle with Orton and Rey is total bullshit and is totally stopping me watching Smackdown at the moment. Let Eddie rest in piece.
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Old 02-12-2006, 12:15 PM   #76
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This whole angle is abolutely pathetic and disrespectful. This is one reason why I watch TNA more than WWE right now

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I hope this isn't all a gigantic screwjob, cos if it is, people will still be bitching and moaning about it 9 years later.
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Old 02-12-2006, 12:17 PM   #78
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If Eddie came back, it'd be the last time I watched WWE for a long time.
I seriously would not be surprised if he came back.
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I seriously would not be surprised if he came back.
Let me guess. You believe Elvis and Tupac are alive, and living together under civil union laws in Vermont with Andy Kaufman and Owen Hart.
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