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Old 05-04-2006, 09:34 PM   #41
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LOL! Seriously, reading that actually made me laugh out loud. Cena may be in phenominal shape, but there is no telling how much fighting skill he does or does not have...that being said I can promise you that a group of 5 or 6 fans could lay a pretty decent ass kickin on him.

Wait we're talking about wrestling fans...most of whom couldn't bench their porn collection...ok so maybe it would take 8 or 9.
Hahah! Glad I made ye laugh, however I don't believe that those fans have the stones to jump over the guardrails. As far as I know only southern fried landlubbers and Canadians have been crazy enough to pull run-ins.
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Old 05-04-2006, 09:36 PM   #42
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Not gonna lie I just may assasinate Vince McMahon if Cena wins
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:28 PM   #43
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:26 PM   #44
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Not gonna lie I just may assasinate Vince McMahon if Cena wins

ME and you both buddy....me and you both
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:44 PM   #45
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Not gonna lie i just may assasinate Cena if Cena wins.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:11 PM   #46
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:52 PM   #47
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You can't assassinate John Cena, guys. Where's your Loyalty? Where's your Respect?? Where's your....

"HUSTLE"??

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Old 05-05-2006, 09:04 PM   #48
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:25 PM   #49
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:54 PM   #50
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To me, this is a major disappointment that the main event isn't going to be Triple H vs. RVD for the WWE Championship at ONS 2.

Triple H is the embodiment of everything an ECW fan should hate. He's the bosses son in law, he's married to Steph, he's on the booking committee, and he's held the WWE main event scene in a strangle hold for nearly four years now! RVD defeating HHH inside an ECW ring would've been a landmark moment.

Instead, we're going to see him beat a lamer white boy rapper who hasn't been taken seriously (in storylines or in the eyes of the fans) in several months.

Oh well. RVD with the title is going to be gold. Just hope he doesn't get Benoit'd.
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:30 PM   #51
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Am I the only one who thinks it is insanely stupid to have the WWE Title defended at an ECW event? RVD is going to need to justify this in a pretty awesome promo if the true ECW fans aren't going to chant "You Sold Out!", "Fuck You Both!" or something like that.

When is the WWE vs. ECW special? I think it would be so much better if Van Dam won the WWE Championship there, then resurfaced at One Night Stand II, opened the show with a promo, and spat on the WWE Title before adopting the old ECW Championship. For his first defence, he could face Sabu in the main event.

I'm not trying to be negative here, but as soon as John Cena gets time on an "ECW PPV", I can see the loyalists shitting all over the entire event, maybe even walking out. That's not the way the WWE wants to commence this whole new ECW thing.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:12 AM   #52
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If RVD decides to be a part of this ""new" ECW, what would be the point of him winning the WWE title? Also don't forget it'll be an ECW type match so really how much wrestling does Cena really need to do? TABLES! LADDERS! BARBED WIRE! CHAIRS!
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:14 AM   #53
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If RVD decides to be a part of this ""new" ECW, what would be the point of him winning the WWE title? Also don't forget it'll be an ECW type match so really how much wrestling does Cena really need to do? TABLES! LADDERS! BARBED WIRE! CHAIRS!
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:21 AM   #54
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:26 AM   #55
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Am I the only one who thinks it is insanely stupid to have the WWE Title defended at an ECW event? RVD is going to need to justify this in a pretty awesome promo if the true ECW fans aren't going to chant "You Sold Out!", "Fuck You Both!" or something like that.
Eh, while I wouldn't have chosen this originally, the idea is growing on me. In a historical sense, the ECW World Heavyweight Champion and the WWE Champion have fought in the passed...so...uh...I guess in a way that's one justification of it. But mainly, I just want to see the reaction Cena gets walking into the building...
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Old 05-06-2006, 03:27 AM   #56
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Now, Cena has low work ethic, no mic skills and bad in - ring skills.

Sorry but I read that and tuned out, I am so sick of the its cool too bash Cena bandwagon and TBH that is one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen made on these boards...
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Old 05-06-2006, 03:37 AM   #57
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Sorry but I read that and tuned out, I am so sick of the its cool too bash Cena bandwagon and TBH that is one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen made on these boards...
What's real funny is that "I" been been following Cena since his days as the Prototype, and have been HATING on him since then.

"NEVER" did I jump on some so - called bandwagon.

Now, what's REAL STUPID is your comment, since you... ...of course have no clue as to whom I enjoy and do not enjoy.

CENA SUCKS. He has from day one. He had a great start when he was writing his own raps, but that's about it. He sucks.

Oh yeah... ...He might just be worse than X Pac. No wait! Worse and lamer than - nope. Can't get much worse than X Pac...
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Old 05-06-2006, 04:51 AM   #58
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I think Cena will retain. That will really get him over as a heel, and RVD is IC champ right now, unless he loses it first. I don't see RVD becoming WWE champ, especially when he's joining ECW soon.
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Old 05-06-2006, 06:32 AM   #59
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What's real funny is that "I" been been following Cena since his days as the Prototype, and have been HATING on him since then.

"NEVER" did I jump on some so - called bandwagon.

Now, what's REAL STUPID is your comment, since you... ...of course have no clue as to whom I enjoy and do not enjoy.

CENA SUCKS. He has from day one. He had a great start when he was writing his own raps, but that's about it. He sucks.

Oh yeah... ...He might just be worse than X Pac. No wait! Worse and lamer than - nope. Can't get much worse than X Pac...

Whether or not you jumped the bandwagon or not has nothing to do with the comment you made. I was merely assuming you were a bandwagon jumper (which even if you were you would not admit too).

As it is saying the guy has no in ring skill at all, no mic skills and no work ethic is complete and utter bullshit. His ring work while limited at the moment is far from shit, I have a real tough job faulting the guys effort (in or out of the ring) and even his most vement of detrators cant help but admit the guy is nothing if not 100% commited too the business.

Then again, you would know better being an Indy big wig and all while the guy who put him there only runs the most successful wrestling company in the history of Wrestling.

My bad...
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:52 AM   #60
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I think Cena will retain. That will really get him over as a heel, and RVD is IC champ right now, unless he loses it first. I don't see RVD becoming WWE champ, especially when he's joining ECW soon.

screw it...
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Old 05-06-2006, 02:22 PM   #61
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Whether or not you jumped the bandwagon or not has nothing to do with the comment you made. I was merely assuming you were a bandwagon jumper (which even if you were you would not admit too).

As it is saying the guy has no in ring skill at all, no mic skills and no work ethic is complete and utter bullshit. His ring work while limited at the moment is far from shit, I have a real tough job faulting the guys effort (in or out of the ring) and even his most vement of detrators cant help but admit the guy is nothing if not 100% commited too the business.

Then again, you would know better being an Indy big wig and all while the guy who put him there only runs the most successful wrestling company in the history of Wrestling.

My bad...
There 'ya go. No sweat, buddy...
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Old 05-06-2006, 02:55 PM   #62
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I'm not trying to be negative here, but as soon as John Cena gets time on an "ECW PPV", I can see the loyalists shitting all over the entire event, maybe even walking out. That's not the way the WWE wants to commence this whole new ECW thing.
We all said the same thing last year when they did the RAW/SmackDown invasion, and it was pretty much universally considered the best PPV of 2005.

So, I'm going to trust Paul and Tommy to take whatever WWE saddles them with and spin it into gold.
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If R.V.D. weren't from Battle Creek, a mere 45 minutes-1 hr. to the SW of where I live in Lansing, MI, I'd probably give a shit less who takes the title if it is indeed Rob/Cena @ ONS II...but because he is local to me RVD's got my full support, cuz I know that even if he doesn't win the title this time at ECW ONS II, he will probably get it at if not before Mania 23 (which, BTW, in case some of you "fans" are still living under a rock is in DETROIT! It'll be the first time since Super Bowl XL, which the Lions had NO SHOT at being a part of, that Ford Field has had a championship competition of any kind and--GASP--it actually has a damn good chance of involving an individual FROM THE STATE OF MICHIGAN!
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What's real funny is that "I" been been following Cena since his days as the Prototype, and have been HATING on him since then.

"NEVER" did I jump on some so - called bandwagon.

Now, what's REAL STUPID is your comment, since you... ...of course have no clue as to whom I enjoy and do not enjoy.

CENA SUCKS. He has from day one. He had a great start when he was writing his own raps, but that's about it. He sucks.

Oh yeah... ...He might just be worse than X Pac. No wait! Worse and lamer than - nope. Can't get much worse than X Pac...

Okay, this I have to argue with. While John Cena may not be the best in-ring performer in the world, nor is he the best technical wrestler, nor is he the most charismatic by any means, he does not "SUCK."

Mark Henry? He sucks. Recently, The Undertaker has sucked. Chris Masters sucks. How can you say that John Cena sucks in the light of so much sucktitude in the WWE?

His days in OVW as The Prototype aren't neccesarily very good measures of how good Cena can be in the ring, considering OVW is where GREEN wrestlers train to become better. His matches with Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho were brilliant when he debuted, and while both Angle and Jericho can pull a great match out of a lot of stinkers, Cena contributed just as much to those matches as they did.

His current gimmick does really suck because they're pushing him as a "street fighter" instead of a "professional wrestler" which he really is. They replaced his awesome Throwback move, yet they kept the Five Knuckle Shuffle. The WWE are idiots when it comes to booking Cena, and that truly does suck.
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I think RVD will win the title and, Shane Douglas style, throw it down and declare himself the new ECW World Champion, leaving the WWE title for Triple H to regain it.

It was the whole Shane scenario with the NWA that kick-started EXTREME Championship Wrestling back in the day. Maybe history is about to repeat itself? It will certainly seem controversial to the casual/newer fans who never saw the original angle, and help get ECW over as a rebel entity.

That thought crossed my mind as well. What better way to kick off the return of ECW and setup a WWE vs ECW feud.
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Okay, this I have to argue with. While John Cena may not be the best in-ring performer in the world, nor is he the best technical wrestler, nor is he the most charismatic by any means, he does not "SUCK."

Mark Henry? He sucks. Recently, The Undertaker has sucked. Chris Masters sucks. How can you say that John Cena sucks in the light of so much sucktitude in the WWE?

His days in OVW as The Prototype aren't neccesarily very good measures of how good Cena can be in the ring, considering OVW is where GREEN wrestlers train to become better. His matches with Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho were brilliant when he debuted, and while both Angle and Jericho can pull a great match out of a lot of stinkers, Cena contributed just as much to those matches as they did.

His current gimmick does really suck because they're pushing him as a "street fighter" instead of a "professional wrestler" which he really is. They replaced his awesome Throwback move, yet they kept the Five Knuckle Shuffle. The WWE are idiots when it comes to booking Cena, and that truly does suck.
Yeah, his gimmick is being ripped apart by the writiers, I agree, but "I" represent one voice, my own, just as any other member on this forum.

I personally think he sucks, and this is from what "I" have seen and since my times following his career. If you ever read my other posts, you'd see that I believed that at one point, he was going onward through a great character, and it was because he still had some control over his own character.

Now that the writers are in control, he's on a downfall. Do I think he would've done better had he continued on his own accord? His own raps, ryhmes and promos? Yeas, I do.

I know for a fact that the writers fuck everything up, and so does Vince. It's the fact that he is trying to hard to shove Cena down my throat that gets me pissed. Cena is playing the role of a dog, following strict orders and becoming the next Mr. T (1800 Collect) all over his entire body and soul...

I know Henry sucks, I know as of late Undertaker sucks, because he can't cut it anymore. The "WALKER TEXAS 'TAKER" gimmick sucks, and again, I blame that on the writers.

John Cena sucks, because he allows himself to drown in the pool of bad gimmicks, fairy tales and utter bullshit. I truly wish I could look every Monday night and watch him do his own thing, but I can't... ...and that sucks.

And yeah, Cena sucks. Cena sucks for his in ring skills, he's slow and highly predictable. In each and every match, I already know I'll see an STFU, and FU, a five knuckle shuffle and his "YOU CAN'T SEE ME ROUTINE", hear him say "WANT SOME, COME GET SOME!" and even watch him win matches in poor fashion (EX: Backlash 2006)...

Cena sucks because he embodies all that is wrong with the business. You have guys like Bret Hart get their legacy ripped and shit on, because such fucks like Cena can make it to the top by merley riding and banking on five year olds. Bret, Hogan, Blassie, Macho King, and so many others worked their asses off not only to earn the respect and admiration from the fans, but made Pro Wrestling what it was to the adult audience. A Sport. Something the Japanese and Mexicans still work THEIR asses of for to this day. And something that will NEVER again be the same, in the United States...
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Yeah, his gimmick is being ripped apart by the writiers, I agree, but "I" represent one voice, my own, just as any other member on this forum.

I personally think he sucks, and this is from what "I" have seen and since my times following his career. If you ever read my other posts, you'd see that I believed that at one point, he was going onward through a great character, and it was because he still had some control over his own character.

Now that the writers are in control, he's on a downfall. Do I think he would've done better had he continued on his own accord? His own raps, ryhmes and promos? Yeas, I do.

I know for a fact that the writers fuck everything up, and so does Vince. It's the fact that he is trying to hard to shove Cena down my throat that gets me pissed. Cena is playing the role of a dog, following strict orders and becoming the next Mr. T (1800 Collect) all over his entire body and soul...

I know Henry sucks, I know as of late Undertaker sucks, because he can't cut it anymore. The "WALKER TEXAS 'TAKER" gimmick sucks, and again, I blame that on the writers.

John Cena sucks, because he allows himself to drown in the pool of bad gimmicks, fairy tales and utter bullshit. I truly wish I could look every Monday night and watch him do his own thing, but I can't... ...and that sucks.

And yeah, Cena sucks. Cena sucks for his in ring skills, he's slow and highly predictable. In each and every match, I already know I'll see an STFU, and FU, a five knuckle shuffle and his "YOU CAN'T SEE ME ROUTINE", hear him say "WANT SOME, COME GET SOME!" and even watch him win matches in poor fashion (EX: Backlash 2006)...

Cena sucks because he embodies all that is wrong with the business. You have guys like Bret Hart get their legacy ripped and shit on, because such fucks like Cena can make it to the top by merley riding and banking on five year olds. Bret, Hogan, Blassie, Macho King, and so many others worked their asses off not only to earn the respect and admiration from the fans, but made Pro Wrestling what it was to the adult audience. A Sport. Something the Japanese and Mexicans still work THEIR asses of for to this day. And something that will NEVER again be the same, in the United States...
Hah hah hah hah! I quite literally laughed me ass off at how melodramatic this post is.
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We all said the same thing last year when they did the RAW/SmackDown invasion, and it was pretty much universally considered the best PPV of 2005.

So, I'm going to trust Paul and Tommy to take whatever WWE saddles them with and spin it into gold.
When you put it that way, I do have faith for it to turn out OK. I just hope the WWE doesn't expect Cena to not get chairs thrown at him or something.
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Hah hah hah hah! I quite literally laughed me ass off at how melodramatic this post is.
Um... ...what?
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