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Old 05-20-2006, 08:33 AM   #41
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Actually, I just re-read your post, and I'd have to (politely) disagree about the commentators. Because the live crowd wouldn't be able to hear them anyway... and the home viewers would be seeing it on Friday anyway.

But when the wrestlers are actually doing it:

JBL: What day is it?

Rey: May 19th

Casual fan who doesn't understand Smackdown is taped: Hey?! It's May 16th ain't it?
Casual fans won't be able to figure out that the show that airs on Friday, that they're watching on Tuesday, that's called Fridy Night Smackdown, are going to say "No, that's wrong! It's Tuesday! Tuesday the 16th! You're a big fat Phony!"
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:41 AM   #42
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Usually I get 10K by Wednesday.
I wouldn't doubt that, try going outside.

But anyways, everyone seems to be taking what I said way out of context, all I meant was Kane used to be great, he came around with a great storyline being the Undertakers burned brother. That had a good run, then they started slowly piece by piece taking parts of his ring attire off, revealing that he didn't even have fake burns to go along with the storyline, and a perfectly unburned face (wait it was burned for the one day when they took the mask off which had hair implants..) then he get's into the whole stupid Lita storyline, and get's taken out with no explanation and replaced with Edge. And now he's coming out to attack someone on a show he is not even part of, 3 days before May 19th when people are pretending it's May 19th. I was just stating how I'm not too impressed with Kane's direction as in the past few years he has not had one stable storyline with any payoff or logical ending.
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Old 05-20-2006, 09:27 AM   #43
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Casual fans won't be able to figure out that the show that airs on Friday, that they're watching on Tuesday, that's called Fridy Night Smackdown, are going to say "No, that's wrong! It's Tuesday! Tuesday the 16th! You're a big fat Phony!"
To be honest, I didn't realise wrestling still had casual fans.
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:18 AM   #44
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If you read the smackdown spoilers it says that JBL actually said live:

"Do you know what day friday is"

so I'm guessing they dubbed over friday and made it say today for TV? If so, that would be a smart move (considering it's WWE)

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JBL then reminds Rey he's in Albuquerque, North Mexico (which got a good laugh) and then suggests Rey doesn't even know what day Friday is. Rey takes the bait and yells out "May 19th!" JBL starts jumping and yells out "I didn't say it!" and the stage explodes for Kane to make a hustle to beat down Rey.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:00 AM   #45
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That's the thing. People know it airs on Friday. IT's now called "Friday Night Smackdown." People put 2+2 together.

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Old 05-20-2006, 11:00 AM   #46
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Actually, I just re-read your post, and I'd have to (politely) disagree about the commentators. Because the live crowd wouldn't be able to hear them anyway... and the home viewers would be seeing it on Friday anyway.

But when the wrestlers are actually doing it:

JBL: What day is it?

Rey: May 19th

Casual fan who doesn't understand Smackdown is taped: Hey?! It's May 16th ain't it?
I think you misunderstood my post.I know the live crowd wouldn't hear them,was just saying is just as stupid calling it friday night sackdown even though its tuesday.

But yes my main point was what must the crowd be thinking when Rey said 'may 19th'.Would've made more sense to do a one-off live show yesterday.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:02 AM   #47
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If you read the smackdown spoilers it says that JBL actually said live:

"Do you know what day friday is"

so I'm guessing they dubbed over friday and made it say today for TV? If so, that would be a smart move (considering it's WWE)

Ah right, see I remember him saying 'Do you know what date it is?'Or something similar.Not friday though.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:19 AM   #48
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I wouldn't doubt that, try going outside.
Oh SNAP! I've been burned by a 12 year old.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:21 AM   #49
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To be honest, I didn't realise wrestling still had casual fans.
So why bring them up?

Anyway, anyone going to Friday Night Smackdown is probably aware that it airs on Friday night. Casual fans probably aren't spending money on tickets, but are randomly tuning in, and won't be confused at all.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:31 AM   #50
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If you read the smackdown spoilers it says that JBL actually said live:

"Do you know what day friday is"

so I'm guessing they dubbed over friday and made it say today for TV? If so, that would be a smart move (considering it's WWE)
On TV, he said "Do you even know what day it is?"

Or something to that effect.

Several times during his speech, they cut away from him, and I can't remember if they cut away during the "What day it is?" bit.

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I think you misunderstood my post.I know the live crowd wouldn't hear them,was just saying is just as stupid calling it friday night sackdown even though its tuesday.

But yes my main point was what must the crowd be thinking when Rey said 'may 19th'.Would've made more sense to do a one-off live show yesterday.
I think your point was well-understood by all. We just think it's stupid.

I know that people seem to have difficulty grapsing this, but there's a difference between not getting a point and not agreeing with it.

Since the announce commentary is for the people at home, and the primary audience is the one that will see it on the airing night (As opposed to other markets, at which WWE is not aimed, or the live audience who won't heard them), it's kind of pointless to argue, as it makes sense.

And since JBL saying something different live makes your point moot...
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Old 05-20-2006, 03:17 PM   #51
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SMACKDOWN SPOILERS BELOW!!! HIGHLIGHT TO READ!!!

Also, I'd like to add (because I can't seem to find a thread discussing Smackdown), that the whole May 19th thing was shit! "Kane returned" people on here said... where did he go? What the hell?

And like... all he did was come out and beat on Mysterio? I was kinda hoping for something special would happen... I dunno. I expected the ring to fill up with smoke or summit and when the smoke clears his mask is in the middle of the ring. But NOOOOO. We get a normal squash match and that's it. So much for May 19th theories. And anything else that happens now won't be the same, because it should have happened on May 19th.
The whole thing with this May 19th nonsense had nothing to do with the release date of "See No Evil". Rather, the "voices" in Kane's head were supposedly telling him that "it's happening again!..." because they were reminding him of May 19th, 1998, when Kane first arrived on the scene of WWE as UT's ½-brother, to confront him as to why he left Kane in a burning house to burn all alone. So there ya have it, no theories here just FACTS.
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Old 05-20-2006, 03:23 PM   #52
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The whole thing with this May 19th nonsense had nothing to do with the release date of "See No Evil". Rather, the "voices" in Kane's head were supposedly telling him that "it's happening again!..." because they were reminding him of May 19th, 1998, when Kane first arrived on the scene of WWE as UT's ½-brother, to confront him as to why he left Kane in a burning house to burn all alone. So there ya have it, no theories here just FACTS.
I hope you weren't serious there. Kane debuted in October 97 at Badd Blood...
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Old 05-20-2006, 03:44 PM   #53
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How retarded do you have to be to not get that Friday Night Smackdown is taped on Tuesday? Using the excuse that "casual" fans doesn't make it better. If by casual, you mean 5 year olds, then maybe they won't get the idea. MAYBE. Everyone else can quickly get that watching a show called FRIDAY Night Smackdown that is being taped on Tuesday will reference events as being on Friday.

It would make no sense to refer to it Tuesday Night Smackdown because it would legitamitely confuse the crap out people who would try to watch it on television. And you don't refer to the show as taped-delayed because it makes your show sound dated and old. That's why television shows refer to episodes as "new" or "premiere" and not "taped last year" or "lame clip show edited last month". It's basic television promotion 101.
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Old 05-20-2006, 03:57 PM   #54
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Let's just put it this way: It's better to confuse 20,000 or less fans vs. millions of fans.

Although I have to admit that there wasn't much of a response when Rey said "May 19" (from the WWE.com video anyway).
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:16 PM   #55
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:37 PM   #56
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Is it me, or does Mark Henry look like the Predator?
Nope. I think it's just you. Can't think of anyone else having ever said that before.

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Today's Wrestler is a man, Vince McMahon has a hard-on for, because he is a hoss and at times...looks like the Predator, this man, is a former Tag Team Partner of D'Lo Brown and is a former WWF/E European Champion...He is The World's Strongest Man, or aka Sexual Chocolate, Mark Henry!

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You think Masters is pretty? His face is that of a shaved ape. Lesnar? Retarded child. Mark Henry? Predator.
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I find it funny that Mark Henry gets pushed and pushed when all he does is waste space and injure great wrestlers. No mic skills, looks like the Predator, hesitates all his moves before carrying them out, no in ring skills and just fucking slow.
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Y'know, dreads, braids, looks like the Predator...
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How retarded do you have to be to not get that Friday Night Smackdown is taped on Tuesday? Using the excuse that "casual" fans doesn't make it better. If by casual, you mean 5 year olds, then maybe they won't get the idea. MAYBE. Everyone else can quickly get that watching a show called FRIDAY Night Smackdown that is being taped on Tuesday will reference events as being on Friday.

It would make no sense to refer to it Tuesday Night Smackdown because it would legitamitely confuse the crap out people who would try to watch it on television. And you don't refer to the show as taped-delayed because it makes your show sound dated and old. That's why television shows refer to episodes as "new" or "premiere" and not "taped last year" or "lame clip show edited last month". It's basic television promotion 101.
Actually, one of my friends who is a 'casual fan'(or atleast used to be) didnt know it was taped on tuesday until i told him.So obviously not everyone knows that.

I think they should just start taping smackdown live on friday nights though.But like that'll ever happen.....
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:41 PM   #58
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I think what Loopydate is trying to say is that the Predator looks like Mark Henry?
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:43 PM   #59
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I think what Loopydate is trying to say is that the Predator looks like Mark Henry?
What? No! Personally, I see no resemblance.
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:45 PM   #60
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I personally think the resemblance is mostly in the nose.
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:45 PM   #61
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I personally think the resemblance is mostly in the nose.
For me, it was always the giant mandibles and night-vision capability.
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Old 05-20-2006, 07:51 PM   #62
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But the night vision is so redundant. Almost all wrestlers have it, so it cancels it out.
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Old 05-20-2006, 09:43 PM   #63
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The whole thing with this May 19th nonsense had nothing to do with the release date of "See No Evil". Rather, the "voices" in Kane's head were supposedly telling him that "it's happening again!..." because they were reminding him of May 19th, 1998, when Kane first arrived on the scene of WWE as UT's ½-brother, to confront him as to why he left Kane in a burning house to burn all alone. So there ya have it, no theories here just FACTS.
Without getting into the "facts" you mention, you'd have to be retarded to think May 19th had nothing to do with Kane's movie.
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Old 05-20-2006, 09:47 PM   #64
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Actually, one of my friends who is a 'casual fan'(or atleast used to be) didnt know it was taped on tuesday until i told him.So obviously not everyone knows that.

I think they should just start taping smackdown live on friday nights though.But like that'll ever happen.....
Wow. One person was clueless that it was pre-taped. THAT TEARS IT!

Friday Night Smackdown is MAKE IT or BREAK IT for dated television!
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Old 05-21-2006, 03:04 PM   #65
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The fact of the matter is that Abso-friggin-lutely NOTHING is completely "LIVE" anymore in the US. The FCC is still so militant about Boobgate from 2+ years ago that noone does anything without at least a 7-second delay anymore. For years, many shows that claim to be live are actually what is called "Live On Tape" meaning that there was no editing involved (outside of the bleeping of swear words) - everything happened in the exact timing as we are shown it.

Smackdown has never been a live show, as they usually go back during the week and have Michael Cole and Tazz redub some of their commentary. They've even gone so far as to have the crowd stick around and have guys re-wrestle a segment of a match because it didn't come off the way WWE wanted it. (At least that's what several people have commented on this website.)
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Old 05-21-2006, 03:20 PM   #66
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I think the whole may 19th is going to stretch out into tonight and maybe even next week. The payoff is still a whiles off I think
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Old 05-21-2006, 03:36 PM   #67
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The fact of the matter is that Abso-friggin-lutely NOTHING is completely "LIVE" anymore in the US. The FCC is still so militant about Boobgate from 2+ years ago that noone does anything without at least a 7-second delay anymore. For years, many shows that claim to be live are actually what is called "Live On Tape" meaning that there was no editing involved (outside of the bleeping of swear words) - everything happened in the exact timing as we are shown it.

Smackdown has never been a live show, as they usually go back during the week and have Michael Cole and Tazz redub some of their commentary. They've even gone so far as to have the crowd stick around and have guys re-wrestle a segment of a match because it didn't come off the way WWE wanted it. (At least that's what several people have commented on this website.)
Ironically, most shows were tape-delayed before the Superbowl. I think Raw was on a 5 second delay for quite some time, and they actually bumped it up. I keep a lot of facts in my head, so I may be off.

The idea of live entertainment is a joke, and even if it weren't, it should be relatively evident that Smackdown isn't live. So yeah.
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Old 05-21-2006, 03:39 PM   #68
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Also, FCC or no, on UPN they have to worry about things like running over. Broadcast is different than Cable, and particularly a different market. I mean, look at the top ten Nielsen-rated shows for Cable and then again for Broadcast. Raw almost always makes the top 5 in Cable. Broadcast, getting a 3-4 rating won't get you a top ten slot at all. Things like Idol, Survior, House, CSI, etc dominate the ratings at 3-4 TIMES that rating.
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You know, when I watched Back to the Future Part II, I got so fucking pissed off knowing that, while they CLAIMED they went to 2015, it was really filmed in like 1984. Fucking ruined the entire thing for me.

And don't get me started about the first one where it was filmed in the early 80's but was based in 1955.
It was actually filmed in 1988 or 89. And yeah, it let me down big time. I'm no longer a BTTF fan.
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Nope. I think it's just you. Can't think of anyone else having ever said that before.



So I'm slightly late.
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I find it really stupid that Kane and Mysterio are basically the only wrestlers that don't break kayfabe in public. This isn't 1985, wrestlers don't need to be seen in public with their tights on and no shirt, or with their mask on.
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