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Old 06-30-2006, 07:26 AM   #41
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And don't say Millar sucks or VEL will question your understanding of stats
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:21 PM   #42
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Red Sox infield is like 10000x better than it was last season. I think that has been a big key in why they've been so hot lately.

Youkilis and Gonzo have been such improvements over Millar and Edgerror Renteria. Renteria admitted in the paper that he couldn't handle the pressure and that was his excuse for sucking, probably true since he is now doing good in a city where nobody cares about baseball.

I can definetly foresee some future errors tho when they move Wily Mo to first base. As of right now, Youkilis's back up is Mark Loretta so they need some more depth there.
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:26 PM   #43
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how do some of u peopel not have bj ryan on your all-star team? he's the best closer in the game
 
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AL MVP: Jim Thome, CWS
AL Cy Young: Johan Santana, MIN
AL Rookie: Justin Verlander, DET
AL Comeback: (tie) Magglio Ordonez, DET/Frank Thomas, OAK
AL Manager: John Gibbons, TOR
AL Bust: (tie) Esteban Loaiza, OAK/Josh Towers, TOR

NL MVP: Albert Pujols, STL
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb, ARI
NL Rookie: Dan Uggla, FLA
NL Comeback: Nomar Garciaparra, LAD
NL Manager: Joe Girardi, FLA
NL Bust: the bullpen, ATL

hard to disagree with any of your choices. Except i'd vote for Leyland over my boy Gibbons
 
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I voted for Gibbons because I like how he's handled the playing time of Cat and Hinske. Its hard to keep guys going when they don't play every day but he's done a great job. If the bullpen (sans Ryan) can figure it out they'll when the division.

Leyland I think is average. He has a great team but I don't think it's because of anything he's doing. When you have starting pitching as solid as theirs it's hard to look bad as a manger.
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:22 PM   #46
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Red Sox infield is like 10000x better than it was last season. I think that has been a big key in why they've been so hot lately.

Youkilis and Gonzo have been such improvements over Millar and Edgerror Renteria. Renteria admitted in the paper that he couldn't handle the pressure and that was his excuse for sucking, probably true since he is now doing good in a city where nobody cares about baseball.

I can definetly foresee some future errors tho when they move Wily Mo to first base. As of right now, Youkilis's back up is Mark Loretta so they need some more depth there.
It's hard to be that hard on a guy who has played his whole career in the NL and then struggles in the AL. It happens to everybody who switches leagues with the exception of guys like Vlad and Thome that had already proven theirselves as top 5 hitters in the game.
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Was Thome in the NL before the Indians? Because I wouldn't think that two or three injury plagued years in the NL would put him on the same level as somebody who played in the NL for their whole career.
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Yeah my bad I was thinking he played on the Phils is whole career. Bad example
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Richie Sexson had a real solid season last year, but hasn't he fallen off a little bit this season?
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Yeah he had one ridiculously bad month but he's heating up now. It's amazing that we're in 2nd and above .500 with Beltre, Sexson, Johjima, Guardado and King Felix all struggling
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Pedro would be a good example of staying on top of the game going from the Expos to the Red Sox.
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It's hard to be that hard on a guy who has played his whole career in the NL and then struggles in the AL. It happens to everybody who switches leagues with the exception of guys like Vlad and Thome that had already proven theirselves as top 5 hitters in the game.
Yeah if it was just hitting I'd buy that but I don't think switching leagues really effects your defense. He was awful last season at shortstop
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2006 MLB Midseason Awards

NL MVP: Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals
AL MVP: Vernon Wells, Toronto Blue Jays

NL Cy Young: Tom Glavine, New York Mets
AL Cy Young: Jonathan Papelbon, Boston Red Sox

NL Rookie of the Year: Dan Uggla, Florida Marlins
AL Rookie of the Year: Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers

NL Comeback Player of the Year: Cesar Izturis, Los Angeles Dodgers
AL Comeback Player of the Year: Rocco Baldelli, Tampa Bay Devil Rays

NL Manager of the Year: Joe Girardi, Florida Marlins
AL Manager of the Year: Jim Leyland, Detroit Tigers

Biggest Bust, NL: Juan Pierre, Chicago Cubs
Biggest Bust, AL: Esteban Loaiza, Oakland Athletics

Biggest Surprise, NL: Aaron Harang, Cincinnati Reds
Biggest Surprise, AL: Mark Grudzielanek, Kansas City Royals

Biggest Disappointment, NL: Chicago Cubs
Biggest Disappointment, AL: Cleveland Indians
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AL Cy Young: Jonathan Papelbon, Boston Red Sox
AL Rookie of the Year: Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers

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or is papelbon technically not a rookie?
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Papelbon is a rookie, but I think the year he is having goes above and beyond the rest of the AL rookies.... the Cy Young would be a much higher honor.

But there are other AL rookies that deserve the chance to win the ROY award.
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doesn't the cy young go to the best pitcher in the league? if the best pitcher in the league was a rookie, why would he not win rookie of the year?
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It's just the way I would like to see it, and I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
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I dunno why Loaiza is getting voted for biggest bust THIS year
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Yeah he had one ridiculously bad month but he's heating up now. It's amazing that we're in 2nd and above .500 with Beltre, Sexson, Johjima, Guardado and King Felix all struggling
Beltre has been horrible hasn't he? Considering a few years ago he was 40/120/300+
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I changed my mind on the awards

AL MVP: Kirby Puckett
AL Cy Young: David Eckstein
AL Rookie: Frank Thomas
AL Manager Gregg Poppovich
AL Comeback: Bud Selig

NL MVP: Zinedine Zidane
NL Cy Young: Justin Verlander
NL Rookie of the Year: Jon Papelbon
NL Manager: Barry Bonds
NL Comeback: Mo Vaughan
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How can people still believe that Verlander is a better rookie than Francisco "Mr. 1.83 ERA" Liriano? Now he has 10 wins, tied for fourth in the AL, and he is I think sixth place in the AL for strikeouts. All six above him have pitched at least 20 more innings than him. Verlander is a joke compared to Liriano, and Papelbon winning the Cy Young would be a complete joke. ESPN might have you think it'd be a good idea to give a rookie closer from Boston the award, but there are obviously better pitchers who have been just as important to their winning teams as he has. FUCK.
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I again want to change my vote, I now pick Papelbon for AL Manager of the Year and Verlander for NL 3rd Base Silver Slugger
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BoSox should get rid of Papelbon he's done, bring in John Rocker
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