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Old 07-16-2006, 03:18 AM   #41
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Make a stable that beats up women. That'd = ratings.
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:23 AM   #42
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Make a stable that beats up women. That'd = ratings.
Wasn't that Test and Steiner? Or was that not big enough to qualify as a stable?
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:32 AM   #43
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technicaly they never hit anyone....stone cold did it for them.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:42 AM   #44
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They've done that already. Jeff Jarrett had a male chauvenist angle during 1999 up until his release, and Chaz/Mosh was given the domestic abuse angle shortly before he teamed with D'Lo.

So that wouldn't be a NEW and INNOVATIVE idea either...
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:01 AM   #45
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Yeah it is. Look, you can't say, "Jim is more stupid than Jane." The correct way to say it is, "Jim is stupider than Jane." Likewise it is wrong to say "Frank is the most stupid." The correct sentence is "Frank is the stupidest."

Didn't you pay attention is 3rd grade English and grammar?
Not all of us went to school in the Bible Belt.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:03 AM   #46
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Make a stable that beats up women. That'd = ratings.
Especially in the south/Military.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:04 AM   #47
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Okay, you know who should be in DX? No one.

The WWE has been relying on recycled angles for years. Their writers are great at going into the past and saying "Let's take this and that, add two new people, and call it a day". They're also great in booking the "classic" "Reunion" stable angle.

However, when it comes to original ideas, you can forget it. They're so inept that, even though they great talents on the roster, they're sitting at home or doing squash dark matches because the writers "don't have anything for them". And then, people get released for that same reason. It's one thing to not give someone a new gimmick and just have the float around as jobbers. It's quite another to fire them because the writers can't think of anything to do with them, like it's their fault.

The WWE, and especially Vince, need to stop looking into the past and start looking into the fucking future. You've got Hulk Hogan still headlining big-4 PPVs, Shawn Michaels and Triple H doing their DX "SUCK IT! LOLZ WE ARE TEH FUNNY" shit, and The Undertaker only showing his face at event that he deems worthy, even though he should have retired instead of pulling this.

But then, you've got great talents like Eugene stuck in fucking horrible gimmicks for way too long and no way out of them! They're not building many future stars which is going to kill them in the long run.

So who should be in the new DX? NO ONE. Go make a new stable out of heel thugs called the Chain Gang lead by John Cena. At least that'd be half original.
The problem is, they've always recycled angles. DX and the like were a takeoff on other people's ideas, and Austin was more or less a happy accident.

The thing is, they don't know how to adapt.
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:34 PM   #48
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the reason dx is a bit "bland" is because they don't have a good opposition. Back in 97 they had the Hart Foundation. These 2 factions brought out the best and the worst in each other. In short DX is boring without someone worthy to to fuck around with.

As for Cena and a stable..nah. "He.cant.wrestle."
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:54 PM   #49
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:30 PM   #50
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The problem is, they've always recycled angles. DX and the like were a takeoff on other people's ideas, and Austin was more or less a happy accident.

The thing is, they don't know how to adapt.
A "Chain Gang" wouldn't exactly be original either, but as you said, they need to know how to adapt everything. It's pretty fucking bad when you're doing an angle, say the Orton/Taker Casket burning, when it's the EXACT SAME SEGMENT with ONE different participant.

There are so many ways you can make an old angle seem new again, and the WWE just doesn't know how.
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:41 PM   #51
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the reason dx is a bit "bland" is because they don't have a good opposition. Back in 97 they had the Hart Foundation. These 2 factions brought out the best and the worst in each other. In short DX is boring without someone worthy to to fuck around with.

As for Cena and a stable..nah. "He.cant.wrestle."
The reason DX is bland is because the idea itself is played out, Shawn Michaels is a Christian, and nobody but 5 TPWWers and a handful of relatives give a fuck about either Vince or the Spirit Squad.

Don't blame the opposition entirely, it misses the two biggest factors.

Also, this isn't UFC. This is Sport Entertainment. Someone's wrestling prowess is not the same as their ability to lead a company. The Rock was said to be unable to wrestle. Hogan was. Austin Was (Though it was only really true after an injury). How many other people who "can't wrestle" have been on top of a successful company?

Flashy characters, blatantly gay outfits, and showing off will always trump wrestling skill, because they're still fucking carnies.
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:41 PM   #52
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The school of James E. Cornette says there's a 7 year cycle for gimmicks and angles. Basically put, previous angles and gimmicks can be re-hashed at a minimum of 7 years after they were previously shown as the average turnover of wrestling fan is roughly the same amount of time.

Unfortunately for us, there's already been a DX revival in the last 7 years. Even more unfortunate is the fact that most of us have been fans for much more than 7 years and will continue to do so. So, as pessimistic as it sounds we're all going personally witness plenty of recycled angles, gimmicks and even characters for years to come.

Or you could come back in 7 years and see what's new...
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:43 PM   #53
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A "Chain Gang" wouldn't exactly be original either, but as you said, they need to know how to adapt everything. It's pretty fucking bad when you're doing an angle, say the Orton/Taker Casket burning, when it's the EXACT SAME SEGMENT with ONE different participant.

There are so many ways you can make an old angle seem new again, and the WWE just doesn't know how.
To be fair, Taker's shtick has always been carbon copy, so it was bound to be the first to degrade into identical segments.
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He can make people suck his shovel.

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Old 07-16-2006, 08:01 PM   #55
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:09 PM   #59
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Wasn't that Test and Steiner? Or was that not big enough to qualify as a stable?
Steiner alone is enough to qualify for a stable.
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