NCAA Football 2006 Thread - Page 2

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-01-2006, 06:57 PM

I thought it was 9 wins in a season? I could be wrong about that but even so, that just gives them an automatic bid. They can still get into a BCS game as an at-large bid even without hitting that mark.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-01-2006, 07:25 PM

A look at ND's schedule

September 2 at Georgia Tech - They are ranked around 35th in most pre-season shits, it is the first game of the season tho so they could be better than expected but I'd assume an easy win for the Irish here. I'd wouldn't call this game a cupcake game.

September 9 Penn State - Bringing in a new QB so I think ND should handle this game, if this game was happening towards the end of November I'd think it'd be a lot tougher. ND should definetly win this game. Same goes for this game tho, definetly wouldn't call it a cupcake. PSU has a lot of dudes coming back.

September 16 Michigan - Don't really know where to go with this game, Michigan didn't play up to their potential at all last season but this year could be different, right now it looks like ND should handle this game but that could change. Definetly not a cupcake.

September 23 at Michigan State - I'd say ND should win this one, I've seen Michigan State projected as low as 7th in the Big 10 but they are returning Drew Stanton as well as all of their LBs and CBs but ND should definetly win this one. Still wouldn't call this one a cupcake, atleast not yet lets see how Michigan State pans out this season though

September 30 Purdue - I'd think ND should win this one as well, although I wouldn't be surprised to see Purdue finish up in the top 25 when all is said and done...no Ohio State for Purdue this year plus Wisconsin and PSU on their homefield.

October 7 Stanford - Could probably call this one a cupcake, Stanford lost to a 1AA team last season, so yeah.

October 21 UCLA - Wouldn't call this one a cupcake, although UCLA did get routed last season by Arizona so who knows. ND will undoutbly be the favorite here but UCLA is another team that could possibly be in the top 25 once this game rolls around. UCLA started out 8-0 last year, so this could be a match up of 2 undefeateds when its gametime.

October 28 at Navy - Should definetly win this game, at this preseason ranking sheet I got infront of me Navy is at #42 - I dunno if I'd consider them a cupcake opponent since they've showed to be a strong team in the past.

November 4 North Carolina - Ehhhh, easy win here, probably call it a cupcake

November 11 at Air Force - Cupcake

November 18 Army - Cupcake

November 25 at USC - Could be a match up between 2 undefeateds to see who goes on to a BCS title game to face Ohio State.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-02-2006, 11:47 PM

Rhett Bomar suspended for the season, there goes Oklahoma's chances.

**Joey Slugs** · 08-03-2006, 05:19 PM

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**Gonzo** · 08-03-2006, 05:32 PM

They did have that clause, not sure if they still do though.

ND plays teams that tend to be tough each year, with a few that are pushovers every year. But how is that different from any other team in the country? Every major program in the country schedules some pussy D-1A or D-1AA teams that they can beat the shit out of every single year. So I don't wanna hear an shit about ND having a cupcake schedule, they're no different than any other team in the country.

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**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-03-2006, 07:38 PM

lol Auburn played the biggest cupcake non-conference I've ever seen a few years ago. Then all the fans where upset when they didn't get into the National Championship game, they probably did deserve to be there cuz they went undefeated in the SEC but when you schedule the Citadel and like Midwest Southern Tennesse State it is kinda hard to complain.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-03-2006, 07:39 PM

SEC fans have also had an attitude tho "This league is so much tougher than all the others!" Not really, all the BCS conferences are pretty tough, some a little bit more than others. I wouldn't saying going undefeated in the SEC is anymore challenging then the Big 12 though.

Big East Champ did beat the SEC Champ last season as well.

**Gonzo** · 08-03-2006, 10:03 PM

Yeah, everyone is always on the SEC's nuts about being such a tough conference. Its divided into East and West, and don't the teams only play within their half of the conference anyways?

I mean each half has a few teams that have been powerhouses in the past, but now a days not every one of those teams is always at the top of the nation in ranking, so its not like it matters.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Still though, going through the SEC is tougher than what ND has lined up for next season.

**Joey Slugs** · 08-04-2006, 03:40 PM

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McLean, Va. -- Despite having to replace nine starters on defense, Ohio State on Friday was named the No. 1 team in the USA Today preseason college football poll.

Coming off a 10-2 record and a Fiesta Bowl victory over Notre Dame, the Buckeyes received 28 of 63 first-place votes and 1,487 points from Division I-A coaches.

Ohio State has to overhaul its defense with the graduation of several stars, including the entire starting linebacking trio of A.J. Hawk, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel. But the Buckeyes have talented players waiting in the wings, and they return nearly all of their key players on offense, including quarterback Troy Smith and wide receiver and return specialist Ted Ginn Jr., both Heisman Trophy candidates.

Defending national champion Texas (13-0) is second after receiving 11 first-place votes and 1,378 points. But the Longhorns, who won a championship for the ages with a 41-38 triumph over Southern California in the Rose Bowl, have to replace all-everything quarterback Vince Young, who left after his junior season and was drafted third by the Tennessee Titans.

Notre Dame (9-3) and USC (12-1) are tied for third with 1,348 points apiece. The Fighting Irish are entering their second season under coach Charlie Weis, while the Trojans begin life without quarterback Matt Leinart and running back Reggie Bush, the last two Heisman winners. Notre Dame received nine first-place votes and USC one.

Oklahoma (8-4) is fifth with 1,320 points. The Sooners had the second-most first-place votes -- 13 -- but those doubtlessly came in before the news Wednesday that coach Bob Stoops permanently dismissed starting quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn from the team for being paid far in excess of hours worked at a local car dealership.

Auburn (9-3), which received the remaining first-place vote, is sixth, while West Virginia (11-1), Florida (9-3), Louisiana State (11-2) and Florida State (8-5) complete the top 10.

Miami (9-3) is 11th, followed by California (8-4), Louisville (9-3), Georgia (10-3), Michigan (7-5), Virginia Tech (11-2), Iowa (7-5), Clemson (8-4), Penn State (11-1) and Oregon (10-2).

TCU (11-1), Nebraska (8-4), Tennessee (5-6), Alabama (10-2) and Texas Tech (9-3) complete the poll.

**Joey Slugs** · 08-04-2006, 03:49 PM

For those of you who don't want to read the story above, the preseason top 25 looks like this:

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. Notre Dame (tie)
3. USC (tie)
5. Oklahoma
6. Auburn
7. West Virginia
8. Florida
9. Louisiana State
10. Florida State
11. Miami
12. California
13. Louisville
14. Georgia
15. Michigan
16. Virginia Tech
17. Iowa
18. Clemson
19. Penn State
20. Oregon
21. TCU
22. Nebraska
23. Tennessee
24. Alabama
25. Texas Tech

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-04-2006, 07:14 PM

#1 Ohio State vs. #2 Texas on September 9th

I turn 21 on September 9th. It's going to be a glorious day.

**mrslackalack** · 08-04-2006, 10:47 PM

A lot of anyalists are saying Iowa is the sleeper team this year.

**mrslackalack** · 08-04-2006, 10:51 PM

Some guy on ESPNNEWS said he actually sees ND losing 4-5 games this year.

**RoXer** · 08-04-2006, 11:13 PM

West Virginia vs. Ohio St. is what my NCAA 07 dynasty predicts.

**BCWWF** · 08-05-2006, 06:04 AM

Lol @ Bomar, dumbass. Either Texas or OU was going to be top four at season's end. I don't forsee any Big 12 team that will beat either team, but Oklahoma and it's inability to close things out just took a big hit.

As for Notre Dame, they will not win the national championship. BCS bound I would think, but they will have to go undefeated (obviously), and if more than one other team goes undefeated, Notre Dame is going to have to win all of it's games with authority. Join a goddamn conference.

Also, what happened to ESPN ranking West Virginia No. 1 in the winter. That was stupid. I think the top four teams, in no order, will be Texas, Ohio State, a mid-ranked team that will be better than expected, I'll say Georgia, and then a really random team, like Oregon. I don't think USC can remain top five, even if they do have good recruits coming in or what not, they just lost two of the best college players of all time.

**Joey Slugs** · 08-05-2006, 01:06 PM

I think you are taking for granted that fact that even ONE team will go undefeated this year. It is never set in stone, especially in NCAA, that a team will go undefeated and win the title.

**BCWWF** · 08-05-2006, 02:42 PM

But I am saying that Notre Dame, should they even lose one game, will probably be out of it a lot faster than a team from say the SEC or Big 12 that loses a game. That might not be fair, but I think that is the perception of Notre Dame. Because they don't play in a conference and their schedule always turns out to be weaker than it was preseason, one loss to any of those teams would kill Notre Dame long before Texas is killed by losing to Oklahoma or Auburn is killed by losing to Alabama.

**The Outlaw** · 08-05-2006, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Yeah, everyone is always on the SEC's nuts about being such a tough conference. Its divided into East and West, and don't the teams only play within their half of the conference anyways?

I mean each half has a few teams that have been powerhouses in the past, but now a days not every one of those teams is always at the top of the nation in ranking, so its not like it matters.

No. We played Florida last year and play them again this year. West vs. East. Like that every year. We always play Tennessee and they are in the East. Vandy is in the east, we play them this year. South Carolina is in the East and we played them last year. If we only played within our own section, we would have 5 division games which would make no sense.

How many SEC teams are in the top 10 this year? Top 25? I wouldn't say we are the dominant overpowering conference that we once were with Alabama being loaded down with sanctions, injuries, and everything else and Tennessee having a down year last year, but I think we are still the strongest conference. Most teams have a few teams on their conference schedule who are no-doubt wins. They probably don't look at it that way obviously, but everyone knows it. We don't have that. Even with teams like Ole Miss, Vandy, and Miss. State looking like "cupcakes", they are upcoming teams I think. They always have good athletes and give good games. I think Ole Miss is going to have a pretty good year. Weakest teams I see in the conference is probably Vandy and State probably. Florida, LSU, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina - six good solid teams in one conference. Not many conferences like that. Maybe I am biased though.

**RoXer** · 08-05-2006, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey RoXer

Can someone confirm that U of A not being a doormat comment?

Anyone?

**BCWWF** · 08-05-2006, 06:22 PM

The SEC probably does the same thing the Big 12 does. There are two divisions of six, and each year you play your other five division opponents and three from the other division. Then the other division teams switch up every two years.

As for the SEC being the toughest conference, there is no doubt that it is. In the East, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee are three of the nations premier programs. At any given year, at least one of those teams should be in the top 10, and when the others aren't, they are rarely bad. South Carolina won seven games last year and bring back Sidney Rice and a second year under Spurrier. They could be the next big team (although Brad Smith owns them). Kentucky isn't good, but they have had a few decent seasons, and Vanderbilt is probably the worst team in the conference. The West is equally as scary. LSU, Auburn and Alabama are arguably bigger national powers than the ones in the East. Arkansas is always a solid program, held back by the other powers. Ole Miss had one of the nations top recruiting classes, which most of should be redshirt freshman next year, and I don't know much about Mississippi State.

Think about the other BCS conferences.

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Big Ten:
National Powers:
Ohio State
Michigan

Solid, usually ranked programs:
Wisconsin
Iowa
Purdue
Penn State

Average Programs:
Michigan State
Minnesota

Generally, ass:
Northwestern
Indiana
Illinois

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Big 12:
National Powers:
Texas
Oklahoma
Nebraska (to an extent)

Solid programs, usually ranked:
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Colorado (for some time)

Average Programs:
Missouri
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
Kansas State

Generally, ass:
Kansas
Baylor

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Atlantic Coast Conference
National Powers:
Florida State
Miami (FL)
Virginia Tech

Solid Programs, usually ranked:
Virginia
Clemson
Boston College

Average programs:
Maryland
North Carolina State
Georgia Tech
North Carolina

Generally, ass:
Wake Forest
Duke
(I would say the difference between the solid and average programs in this conference is pretty small, you could almost combine them and meet in the middle)

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Big East
National Powers:
None

Solid programs, usually ranked:
West Virginia
Louisville
Pittsburgh

Average programs:
South Florida
Connecticut
Syracuse

Road Doggy Dog, awful:
Cincinnati
Rutgers
(To be honest, I don't know how good those two teams are, but I am pretty sure they are the worst programs in easily the worst BCS conference. Also, the Miz isn't that bad)

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Pacific 10
National Powers:
USC

Solid programs, usually ranked:
Oregon
Cal
Arizona State
UCLA

Average Programs:
Stanford
Oregon State
Washington

Generally, ass:
Arizona
Washington State

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Southeastern Conference
National Powers:
LSU
Georgia
Auburn
Florida
Tennessee
Alabama (to a certain extent)

Solid programs, usually ranked:
South Carolina
Ole Miss (to an extent, though not lately)

Average programs:
Kentucky
Arkansas
Mississippi State (I think?)

The Outlaw could play for 'em:
Vanderbilt

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So this isn't misinterpreted, the "National Powers" isn't a list of teams that are contending for the national championship year in and year out. It is a list of teams that have very strong programs, always have great recruiting, and are bound to challenge for a national title at some point within about a 10 year period. By challenge for, I don't mean they will be in the game, but at least ranked top 10 or higher at some point.

Also, this isn't a list based on what is going to happen this year. Tennessee was 5-6 last year, and might not be better than 7-6 this year, but within the next five years, if Tennessee doesn't crawl it's way back to the top 10 at some point, I would be shocked. Same goes for Ole Miss, who I could have placed worse because of recent years, but as a whole, that is a solid program that is held down by the powerful teams on top. They look to have a very prosperous next couple of years. The only team that I left out of the national powers that very well could have been there is Penn State, in my opinion, but the last couple of years really took them down.

The other thing about "National Powers", I listed 15. Of those 15, probably one or two will miss out on a bowl, maybe nine or ten more won't be ranked, and maybe five will be in the top 10, but besides a few random poor seasons, these teams are always good. How good, it just varies on the year. And that is why the SEC is so hard.

**The Outlaw** · 08-06-2006, 06:33 PM

Yeah exactly. Vanderbilt is a joke though. They don't even have an Athletic Director. Pretty sad. They are all about the academics though, it's really tough to get into Vandy. Seems like they always have good athletes but they can never get over the hump. Especially lately.

**RoXer** · 08-06-2006, 06:48 PM

But my question was are we going to be "generally ass" THIS year?

**BCWWF** · 08-06-2006, 07:41 PM

I don't follow Pac-10 football enough to know for sure, but USC is going to be ranked, maybe top 10, I would expect UCLA, Cal, Arizona State and Oregon to all be competing for Bowl bids, and one would think that Washington is better than they were last year, so I would expect Arizona to be in the bottom third of the conference, probably pretty low.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-07-2006, 01:38 AM

lol Kentucky is not an average program. They're as bad if not worse than Vandy and they don't have any academic excuse either.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-07-2006, 01:41 AM

PS Kentucky has had 2 winning seasons since 1990 and they were both 7-5 years. Kentucky has won more than 7 games a grand total of ONE TIME since 1978.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 08-07-2006, 01:44 AM

In fact, looking back at their history, they've won more than 7 games in a season a whole 10 times. UK has had a team since 1881. They are pathetic in every sense of the word.

**BCWWF** · 08-07-2006, 03:08 AM

2005: 3-8
2004: 2-9
2003: 4-8
2002: 7-5
2001: 2-9
2000: 2-9
1999: 6-6
1998: 7-5
1997: 5-6

So yeah, it would probably be safe to say that they might be ass.

**The Miz** · 08-07-2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey RoXer

But my question was are we going to be "generally ass" THIS year?

They'll be better than the last few years, no chance of competing in the Pac 10 though. Good receivers and line, no running game, and a vastly improved D. I think they'll breakout in 07.

Looking at their schedule:
BYU (L)
at LSU (L)
Stephen F. Austin (W)
USC (L)
UW (W)
at UCLA (L)
at Stanford (W)
OSU (W)
at WSU (W)
Cal (L)
at Oregon (L)
ASU (L)

5-7 (4-5). Who the fuck's idea was it to schedule BYU and LSU in September?

As for the rest of the league, I predict:
1. California
2. USC
3. Oregon
4. Arizona State
5. Oregon State
6. UCLA
7. Arizona
8. Washington
9. Washington State
10. Stanford

**RoXer** · 08-07-2006, 02:21 PM

Yeah I know, when I saw that game on my Dynasty I was like "lol what?".

I won 6-3

**RoXer** · 08-07-2006, 02:22 PM

UCLA, CAL, and ASU could be wins.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-07-2006, 07:06 PM

lol Stephen F Austin

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-07-2006, 07:07 PM

haha do you guys remember when UNH beat Mississippi State like 2 years ago? WOOO NEW HAMPSHIRE FOOTBALL POWER HOUSE

**RoXer** · 08-07-2006, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

lol Stephen F Austin

That was the game I changed to BC

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-07-2006, 10:47 PM

Mike Bell, undrafted rookie running back out of the UofA, just got promoted to starter for the Broncos

So atleast they got that goin for them.............which is nice.

Gotta watch out for Florida if not this year than in the future, I was down in FL this weekend so I got to check out the local sport pages and they had a story about how 3 or maybe even 4 true freshman wideouts could be getting some serious playing time. Pretty sure most people already know about Tebow so their offense could be pretty ridiculous.

**BCWWF** · 08-08-2006, 03:00 AM

I am still disappointed that you didn't go to UF, Stima. Aren't you?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-08-2006, 01:49 PM

Yeah I wanted to go to school somewhere in Florida but oh well

Also, I don't really agree with your "National Powers" thing, if you are going to list Alabama and Tennesse as national powers I'd think Penn State would be one.

**The Miz** · 08-08-2006, 02:10 PM

Stone Cold Stephen F. Austin

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-08-2006, 02:23 PM

Harrison Beck left Nebraska after coming in as one of the most highly recruited 'Billy Callahan era' players.

08-03-2006, 05:19 PM	#44
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	vBulletin Message You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sTiMa34 again.

08-08-2006, 01:49 PM	#78
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yeah I wanted to go to school somewhere in Florida but oh well Also, I don't really agree with your "National Powers" thing, if you are going to list Alabama and Tennesse as national powers I'd think Penn State would be one. Last edited by Jesus Shuttlesworth; 08-08-2006 at 01:52 PM.

08-01-2006, 06:57 PM	#41
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I thought it was 9 wins in a season? I could be wrong about that but even so, that just gives them an automatic bid. They can still get into a BCS game as an at-large bid even without hitting that mark.

08-01-2006, 07:25 PM	#42
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	A look at ND's schedule September 2 at Georgia Tech - They are ranked around 35th in most pre-season shits, it is the first game of the season tho so they could be better than expected but I'd assume an easy win for the Irish here. I'd wouldn't call this game a cupcake game. September 9 Penn State - Bringing in a new QB so I think ND should handle this game, if this game was happening towards the end of November I'd think it'd be a lot tougher. ND should definetly win this game. Same goes for this game tho, definetly wouldn't call it a cupcake. PSU has a lot of dudes coming back. September 16 Michigan - Don't really know where to go with this game, Michigan didn't play up to their potential at all last season but this year could be different, right now it looks like ND should handle this game but that could change. Definetly not a cupcake. September 23 at Michigan State - I'd say ND should win this one, I've seen Michigan State projected as low as 7th in the Big 10 but they are returning Drew Stanton as well as all of their LBs and CBs but ND should definetly win this one. Still wouldn't call this one a cupcake, atleast not yet lets see how Michigan State pans out this season though September 30 Purdue - I'd think ND should win this one as well, although I wouldn't be surprised to see Purdue finish up in the top 25 when all is said and done...no Ohio State for Purdue this year plus Wisconsin and PSU on their homefield. October 7 Stanford - Could probably call this one a cupcake, Stanford lost to a 1AA team last season, so yeah. October 21 UCLA - Wouldn't call this one a cupcake, although UCLA did get routed last season by Arizona so who knows. ND will undoutbly be the favorite here but UCLA is another team that could possibly be in the top 25 once this game rolls around. UCLA started out 8-0 last year, so this could be a match up of 2 undefeateds when its gametime. October 28 at Navy - Should definetly win this game, at this preseason ranking sheet I got infront of me Navy is at #42 - I dunno if I'd consider them a cupcake opponent since they've showed to be a strong team in the past. November 4 North Carolina - Ehhhh, easy win here, probably call it a cupcake November 11 at Air Force - Cupcake November 18 Army - Cupcake November 25 at USC - Could be a match up between 2 undefeateds to see who goes on to a BCS title game to face Ohio State.

08-02-2006, 11:47 PM	#43
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Rhett Bomar suspended for the season, there goes Oklahoma's chances.

08-03-2006, 05:32 PM	#45
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	They did have that clause, not sure if they still do though. ND plays teams that tend to be tough each year, with a few that are pushovers every year. But how is that different from any other team in the country? Every major program in the country schedules some pussy D-1A or D-1AA teams that they can beat the shit out of every single year. So I don't wanna hear an shit about ND having a cupcake schedule, they're no different than any other team in the country.

08-03-2006, 07:34 PM	#46
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08-03-2006, 07:38 PM	#47
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	lol Auburn played the biggest cupcake non-conference I've ever seen a few years ago. Then all the fans where upset when they didn't get into the National Championship game, they probably did deserve to be there cuz they went undefeated in the SEC but when you schedule the Citadel and like Midwest Southern Tennesse State it is kinda hard to complain.

08-03-2006, 07:39 PM	#48
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	SEC fans have also had an attitude tho "This league is so much tougher than all the others!" Not really, all the BCS conferences are pretty tough, some a little bit more than others. I wouldn't saying going undefeated in the SEC is anymore challenging then the Big 12 though. Big East Champ did beat the SEC Champ last season as well.

08-03-2006, 10:03 PM	#49
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Yeah, everyone is always on the SEC's nuts about being such a tough conference. Its divided into East and West, and don't the teams only play within their half of the conference anyways? I mean each half has a few teams that have been powerhouses in the past, but now a days not every one of those teams is always at the top of the nation in ranking, so its not like it matters.

08-03-2006, 10:10 PM	#50
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Still though, going through the SEC is tougher than what ND has lined up for next season.

08-04-2006, 03:49 PM	#52
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	For those of you who don't want to read the story above, the preseason top 25 looks like this: 1. Ohio State 2. Texas 3. Notre Dame (tie) 3. USC (tie) 5. Oklahoma 6. Auburn 7. West Virginia 8. Florida 9. Louisiana State 10. Florida State 11. Miami 12. California 13. Louisville 14. Georgia 15. Michigan 16. Virginia Tech 17. Iowa 18. Clemson 19. Penn State 20. Oregon 21. TCU 22. Nebraska 23. Tennessee 24. Alabama 25. Texas Tech

08-04-2006, 07:14 PM	#53
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,748	#1 Ohio State vs. #2 Texas on September 9th I turn 21 on September 9th. It's going to be a glorious day.

08-04-2006, 10:47 PM	#54
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	A lot of anyalists are saying Iowa is the sleeper team this year.

08-04-2006, 10:51 PM	#55
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	Some guy on ESPNNEWS said he actually sees ND losing 4-5 games this year.

08-04-2006, 11:13 PM	#56
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	West Virginia vs. Ohio St. is what my NCAA 07 dynasty predicts.

08-05-2006, 06:04 AM	#57
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Lol @ Bomar, dumbass. Either Texas or OU was going to be top four at season's end. I don't forsee any Big 12 team that will beat either team, but Oklahoma and it's inability to close things out just took a big hit. As for Notre Dame, they will not win the national championship. BCS bound I would think, but they will have to go undefeated (obviously), and if more than one other team goes undefeated, Notre Dame is going to have to win all of it's games with authority. Join a goddamn conference. Also, what happened to ESPN ranking West Virginia No. 1 in the winter. That was stupid. I think the top four teams, in no order, will be Texas, Ohio State, a mid-ranked team that will be better than expected, I'll say Georgia, and then a really random team, like Oregon. I don't think USC can remain top five, even if they do have good recruits coming in or what not, they just lost two of the best college players of all time.

08-05-2006, 01:06 PM	#58
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	I think you are taking for granted that fact that even ONE team will go undefeated this year. It is never set in stone, especially in NCAA, that a team will go undefeated and win the title.

08-05-2006, 02:42 PM	#59
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	But I am saying that Notre Dame, should they even lose one game, will probably be out of it a lot faster than a team from say the SEC or Big 12 that loses a game. That might not be fair, but I think that is the perception of Notre Dame. Because they don't play in a conference and their schedule always turns out to be weaker than it was preseason, one loss to any of those teams would kill Notre Dame long before Texas is killed by losing to Oklahoma or Auburn is killed by losing to Alabama.

08-05-2006, 06:22 PM	#62
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	The SEC probably does the same thing the Big 12 does. There are two divisions of six, and each year you play your other five division opponents and three from the other division. Then the other division teams switch up every two years. As for the SEC being the toughest conference, there is no doubt that it is. In the East, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee are three of the nations premier programs. At any given year, at least one of those teams should be in the top 10, and when the others aren't, they are rarely bad. South Carolina won seven games last year and bring back Sidney Rice and a second year under Spurrier. They could be the next big team (although Brad Smith owns them). Kentucky isn't good, but they have had a few decent seasons, and Vanderbilt is probably the worst team in the conference. The West is equally as scary. LSU, Auburn and Alabama are arguably bigger national powers than the ones in the East. Arkansas is always a solid program, held back by the other powers. Ole Miss had one of the nations top recruiting classes, which most of should be redshirt freshman next year, and I don't know much about Mississippi State. Think about the other BCS conferences. --------------------------------------------- Big Ten: National Powers: Ohio State Michigan Solid, usually ranked programs: Wisconsin Iowa Purdue Penn State Average Programs: Michigan State Minnesota Generally, ass: Northwestern Indiana Illinois --------------------------------------------- Big 12: National Powers: Texas Oklahoma Nebraska (to an extent) Solid programs, usually ranked: Texas A&M Texas Tech Colorado (for some time) Average Programs: Missouri Iowa State Oklahoma State Kansas State Generally, ass: Kansas Baylor --------------------------------------------- Atlantic Coast Conference National Powers: Florida State Miami (FL) Virginia Tech Solid Programs, usually ranked: Virginia Clemson Boston College Average programs: Maryland North Carolina State Georgia Tech North Carolina Generally, ass: Wake Forest Duke (I would say the difference between the solid and average programs in this conference is pretty small, you could almost combine them and meet in the middle) --------------------------------------------- Big East National Powers: None Solid programs, usually ranked: West Virginia Louisville Pittsburgh Average programs: South Florida Connecticut Syracuse Road Doggy Dog, awful: Cincinnati Rutgers (To be honest, I don't know how good those two teams are, but I am pretty sure they are the worst programs in easily the worst BCS conference. Also, the Miz isn't that bad) --------------------------------------------- Pacific 10 National Powers: USC Solid programs, usually ranked: Oregon Cal Arizona State UCLA Average Programs: Stanford Oregon State Washington Generally, ass: Arizona Washington State --------------------------------------------- Southeastern Conference National Powers: LSU Georgia Auburn Florida Tennessee Alabama (to a certain extent) Solid programs, usually ranked: South Carolina Ole Miss (to an extent, though not lately) Average programs: Kentucky Arkansas Mississippi State (I think?) The Outlaw could play for 'em: Vanderbilt --------------------------------------------- So this isn't misinterpreted, the "National Powers" isn't a list of teams that are contending for the national championship year in and year out. It is a list of teams that have very strong programs, always have great recruiting, and are bound to challenge for a national title at some point within about a 10 year period. By challenge for, I don't mean they will be in the game, but at least ranked top 10 or higher at some point. Also, this isn't a list based on what is going to happen this year. Tennessee was 5-6 last year, and might not be better than 7-6 this year, but within the next five years, if Tennessee doesn't crawl it's way back to the top 10 at some point, I would be shocked. Same goes for Ole Miss, who I could have placed worse because of recent years, but as a whole, that is a solid program that is held down by the powerful teams on top. They look to have a very prosperous next couple of years. The only team that I left out of the national powers that very well could have been there is Penn State, in my opinion, but the last couple of years really took them down. The other thing about "National Powers", I listed 15. Of those 15, probably one or two will miss out on a bowl, maybe nine or ten more won't be ranked, and maybe five will be in the top 10, but besides a few random poor seasons, these teams are always good. How good, it just varies on the year. And that is why the SEC is so hard.

08-06-2006, 06:33 PM	#63
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Yeah exactly. Vanderbilt is a joke though. They don't even have an Athletic Director. Pretty sad. They are all about the academics though, it's really tough to get into Vandy. Seems like they always have good athletes but they can never get over the hump. Especially lately.

08-06-2006, 06:48 PM	#64
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	But my question was are we going to be "generally ass" THIS year?

08-06-2006, 07:41 PM	#65
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I don't follow Pac-10 football enough to know for sure, but USC is going to be ranked, maybe top 10, I would expect UCLA, Cal, Arizona State and Oregon to all be competing for Bowl bids, and one would think that Washington is better than they were last year, so I would expect Arizona to be in the bottom third of the conference, probably pretty low.

08-07-2006, 01:38 AM	#66
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,748	lol Kentucky is not an average program. They're as bad if not worse than Vandy and they don't have any academic excuse either.

08-07-2006, 01:41 AM	#67
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,748	PS Kentucky has had 2 winning seasons since 1990 and they were both 7-5 years. Kentucky has won more than 7 games a grand total of ONE TIME since 1978.

08-07-2006, 01:44 AM	#68
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,748	In fact, looking back at their history, they've won more than 7 games in a season a whole 10 times. UK has had a team since 1881. They are pathetic in every sense of the word.

08-07-2006, 03:08 AM	#69
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	2005: 3-8 2004: 2-9 2003: 4-8 2002: 7-5 2001: 2-9 2000: 2-9 1999: 6-6 1998: 7-5 1997: 5-6 So yeah, it would probably be safe to say that they might be ass.

08-07-2006, 02:21 PM	#71
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Yeah I know, when I saw that game on my Dynasty I was like "lol what?". I won 6-3

08-07-2006, 02:22 PM	#72
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	UCLA, CAL, and ASU could be wins.

08-07-2006, 07:06 PM	#73
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	lol Stephen F Austin

08-07-2006, 07:07 PM	#74
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	haha do you guys remember when UNH beat Mississippi State like 2 years ago? WOOO NEW HAMPSHIRE FOOTBALL POWER HOUSE

08-07-2006, 10:47 PM	#76
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Mike Bell, undrafted rookie running back out of the UofA, just got promoted to starter for the Broncos So atleast they got that goin for them.............which is nice. Gotta watch out for Florida if not this year than in the future, I was down in FL this weekend so I got to check out the local sport pages and they had a story about how 3 or maybe even 4 true freshman wideouts could be getting some serious playing time. Pretty sure most people already know about Tebow so their offense could be pretty ridiculous.