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View Poll Results: If you could only have one of these systems, which would you choose?
Playstation 3 13 50.00%
Wii 8 30.77%
XBox 360 5 19.23%
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:33 PM   #41
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Because they are also part of the reason I want the system.
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:35 PM   #42
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Are you arguing with just john or DS?

Because you're quoting DS, but talking to just john.
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:47 PM   #43
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I wasn't arguing that Blu-ray was going to be dominate, I was counter-pointing your arguments.
Which did not come out of a vaccuum; they were only in rebuttal to John's "Once they outrun the competition..."

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The only reason I said they both had flaws, was to try and make it understandable that I know where you are coming from and to not get you all bent out of shape. I guess I failed.
Yes. I disagree, so I'm bent out of shape. Slightly retarded, but okay. NOW IM MAD RARR.

You've made yoru strawman argument, which really doesn't change my argument anyway.

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I chose the PS3 for pretty much every reason other than Blu-ray.
Good for you.

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So a simpler counter argument:
There isn't a greater risk because of the surface area. The blue lasers are conditioned to print the data fine. And Blu-ray has a polymer finish that makes it extremely impossible to scratch the disk.
Errr...No. They used to claim that about CDs and DVDs. Wow, that worked out well.

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I'm not saying HD-DVD isn't a good choice, I'm not saying it will fail, I'm not saying it will be beaten. Same goes for Blu-ray. I'm saying that your arguments are flawed. It could go either way or they could both succeed.
Ummm, this was my argument:

JJ: Once Blu Ray outruns the competition...
KK: It won't.

Woah. You totally nailed me. In pointing out that his clear decision based on the notion that Blu-Ray would relagate the 360 to Lite titles or loss of franchise, I provided a flawed argument that you sure counterpointed by (If what you're claiming is true) essentially arguing the same thing. I think factors favor the HD-DVD format, but for all the things it has going for it, I do not consider this a knockout blow, nor was this my initial argument.

Yes, my second post addressed you as though you were JJ. Apologies, but it seemed about as well-thought out as John's. Especially since a quick googling of Blu-Ray support annihilated a decent chunk of your list of movie companies supporting Blu-Ray, but I'm not telling you anything someone informed probably already knows.

You drew inference that I was taking a point I was not taking, and I counter-argued. For that, I'm evidently bent out of shape. But whatever. Since apparently we agree, and you were just retarded enough to think that arguing against someone who insisted that Blu-Ray was going to dominate by throwing up selling points of the other side, meant I was biased, then I really have fuck all left to argue about. Unless you would like me to play Devil's Advocate. Or maybe I could bend myself further out of shape.
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:48 PM   #44
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Why not?
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:05 PM   #45
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Sometimes I have a hard time understanding what you are arguing.

He may be wrong but not for any of the reasons you stated. You can either pay $199 for an HD-DVD add-on for HD-DVD movies (which is cheaper than other players) or you can pay the same price it would be for the 360 + add-on and get the PS3 which plays Blu-ray movies and games. He very well could be right.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:21 PM   #46
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Sometimes I have a hard time understanding what you are arguing.

He may be wrong but not for any of the reasons you stated. You can either pay $199 for an HD-DVD add-on for HD-DVD movies (which is cheaper than other players) or you can pay the same price it would be for the 360 + add-on and get the PS3 which plays Blu-ray movies and games. He very well could be right.
The reasons I stated are going to be factors, as will others. I did not offer a complete list, as I was neither trying to argue the superiority of one over the other nor illustrate a complete comparison between the two. Your price argument is extremely limited, and seems a bit odd to be brought up when you're saying reasons like market recognition might not be factors.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:30 PM   #47
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If the HD-DVD add-on was able to play HD-DVD games I would have said nothing about your post. I'm not saying he is right, but you seemed so certain that Blu-ray wasn't going to outrun HD-DVD that you seemed to be saying that you thought that HD-DVD was going to be the "victor".
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:42 PM   #48
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Bloody Hell. I was under the impression that it would be viable for games.

My bad.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:58 PM   #49
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:45 AM   #50
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Wii.... at first. I'm more interested in it. Some games coming out for it sound really fun. Some of me does wish that Nintendo would focus more on traditional gaming rather than being different. Knowing that not every single game will use the Wii-mote was another small deciding factor. I know most will, but I could not imagine playing Super Smash Bros with that crazy device. Wii just sounds like it's going to be all kinds of fun.

I'm also getting a Wii for multiplayer gaming. I have a PS2, but ever since I got it, I've only got to play it with someone else a handfull of times. With a Wii I could play with my girlfriend and her sister... or just her sister. When they're both over here, the only game for PS2 that they want to play is Katamari. I'll pick up a Wii knowing for sure I'll have a coupke of people to play with against. Games like Mario tennis are mad fun, but made for multiplayer. Playing solo isn't nearly as fun.

I'd like to get a PS3 as well, but I have to wait for a price drop, and more games I'd really want to play that are Playstation specific. Some games that used to be only on Playstation are also going to be on Xbox 360. When I think of Xbox, I think of sports and driving games. It seemed to me that Playstation had more variety of different games that interested me. Now 360 is sounding pretty good, with many different games. Dead Rising is looking and sounding pretty sick. Right now I want to lean more towards a PS3, but can't really because there really isn't much of a difference between the two right now.

I got a PS2 mainly for Smackdown and GTA, but now both series are for both consoles. Most games I have for PS2 are out for all the consoles (Ar ot least 2) like X-Men Legends, Burnout, Hulk Ultimate Destruction. I heard the Katamari series is donw, which is sad, but a Katamari for PS3 could make me want one over an Xbox 360.

I'd like to own both and get the best of both types of gaming, but I won't be able to afford a PS3 anytime soon. So to make my rambling short: Wii, then maybe in a year which ever console has better games.
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