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Old 09-07-2006, 10:51 AM   #41
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Pat Miletich already said in a year he is gonna be unbeatable. And that's a bold statement coming from a former UFC champ who currently trains with Matt Hughes and Tim Sylvia.

As long as they feed him the right guys early, it's gonna be a matter of time before it's Brock vs. Fedor.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:59 AM   #42
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They're going to have to protect him for awhile. They can only feed him the right guys for so long though.

It could happen, but I really don't think it will Even with Gracie training him, it's going to take time. Inexperience will hurt him.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:17 AM   #43
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No more than it's hurt any other guy.
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Brock could really lead this little verbal war (and I use this term loosely) between UFC and WWE into a whole new direction. Makes for an interesting story, gonna love to see this play out a year or two down the road.
Brock is in K-1
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:18 PM   #45
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For now.
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:54 PM   #46
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What the hell does the Undertaker have to do with this thread? Does he have an MMA background or something?
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What the hell does the Undertaker have to do with this thread? Does he have an MMA background or something?
No, but they've been pretending he does for years.
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:54 PM   #48
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No more than it's hurt any other guy.

It could.

They are assuming Lesnar will be a draw. Meaning he may be put into big fight situations with people better than him quicker than other guys of his experience.

I mean, let's say misc fighter A who know one knows has the same experience, or lack their of as Brock. Who is going to get picked to be in a big fight? The guy no one knows, or the guy who has name recognition.

They won't feed him to thewolves, but I have a feeling Brock will be put in a match he's not ready for down the road, and it will show, and show bad.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:25 PM   #49
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We'll soon see about his opponents. I have a strong feeling you are wrong though. Everything I have heard so far makes me believe Brock Lesnar is about reading to fuck up some people and make a name for himself in the MMA world.

Do you forget his level of real wrestling ability? I think Mark Coleman is the only heavyweight out there with something resembling it.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:31 PM   #50
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All signs point to him being a complete monster in MMA. He should do well.

Although you never know. MMA is sometimes unpredictable.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:59 PM   #51
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I'm not worried about his wrestling ability, I'm worried about his striking ability.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:01 PM   #52
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:16 PM   #53
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Yes, Brock should be a legimate monster in MMA. But I would hate to see him get destroyed, or worse, be a big ass pussy like Bob Sapp's sorry ass.
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The Undertaker in MMA is a joke. lol im glad everyone saw that fact.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:25 PM   #55
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I'm not worried about his wrestling ability, I'm worried about his striking ability.
Not that I doubt the striking power of lesnar, but not everyone top tier fighter has had the total package. I believe lesner will but its not necessary.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:30 PM   #56
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Lesnar could potentially beat people with wrestling, a la Rashad Evans def. Stephan Bonnar. It would not be entertaining, but it would work for a while, unless a striker like Cro Cop or the Iceman gets lucky and lands clean once or twice.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:44 PM   #57
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As a guy who broke into MMA as a am. wrestler, I really really want to see Brock do well. He has all the physical tools in the worlds and with the right intensity (which I think he has), and a couple of matches under his belt, Brock will rock the MMA world.
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:40 PM   #58
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Yes, Brock should be a legimate monster in MMA. But I would hate to see him get destroyed, or worse, be a big ass pussy like Bob Sapp's sorry ass.
Bob Sapp a pussy? You on drugs dude?

This man was taking fights against people he had no business fighting and was winning. And then he took fights against even more people he had no business fighting and did it with ZERO training. They ruined in him Japan by over working him with every fucking piece of media work known to mankind. If he had time to train, he would have been a killer.

Brock is getting time to train.
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I have a feeling Brokc will be like Koshcheck
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:35 PM   #60
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I'm not worried about his wrestling ability, I'm worried about his striking ability.

Exactly what I was thinking. Even if he is learning GJJ from Royce, he needs to work on striking as well. What would he do against someone with an awesome take down defense?

With that aside, I do think he will do pretty well for himself. Like it has already been said, he just needs to get the proper training and not rush in to anything.
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Gracie's a vet. I somehow doubt he's stupid enough to neglect striking.
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Old 09-09-2006, 12:54 PM   #62
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You guys act like you're pro MMA scouts. You say Brock has no striking skills, you say people with good take down defense will stop him. I'm no pro MMA scout, but lets look at this for a minute.

Striking.
You think he doesn't know who to throw a punch?- Why?
You think he can't learn or be taught it- Why?

Take Down Defense

Brock's size is all he needs to push through someone's takedown defense. Disagree? - Why?

Think a much bigger Matt Hughes simply picking someone up.

I predict, like Rob and others, that Brock could become the biggest thing in the MMA sport.
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You guys act like you're pro MMA scouts. You say Brock has no striking skills, you say people with good take down defense will stop him. I'm no pro MMA scout, but lets look at this for a minute.

Striking.
You think he doesn't know who to throw a punch?- Why?
You think he can't learn or be taught it- Why?

Take Down Defense

Brock's size is all he needs to push through someone's takedown defense. Disagree? - Why?

Think a much bigger Matt Hughes simply picking someone up.

I predict, like Rob and others, that Brock could become the biggest thing in the MMA sport.
Anyone can learn to throw a punch. Knowing how to punch is different than being a good striker. Likewise, knowing how to throw a punch doesn't mean you're good at defending against them... Same thing with kicks, knees, etc.

Likewise, with take down ability/defense. Yeah, he can take people down, but if it's all he does, people will watch for that shit. If he goes to take someone down and gets a hard knee to the face, or gets caught in a good facelock, he could be in trouble.

Lesnar has the size, he has the wrestling ability, and he has the attitude... I just dont' know if he has the patience. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to do well, i'm just saying I think they are going to blow their load on him too early, give him a big fight too quick, he might fuck up due to experience, and then suddenly, he may not be the hot shit that he was when he was killing lower guys.
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You guys act like you're pro MMA scouts. You say Brock has no striking skills, you say people with good take down defense will stop him. I'm no pro MMA scout, but lets look at this for a minute.

Striking.
You think he doesn't know who to throw a punch?- Why?
You think he can't learn or be taught it- Why?

Take Down Defense

Brock's size is all he needs to push through someone's takedown defense. Disagree? - Why?

Think a much bigger Matt Hughes simply picking someone up.

I predict, like Rob and others, that Brock could become the biggest thing in the MMA sport.
I know for a fact he is doing intensive stand up training and has been for weeks. The word is he knows his wrestling is the nuts so he needs to learn everything else first.
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No need to train in take downs anyway. He should already have that down pat.
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