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Old 09-17-2006, 05:01 PM   #41
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I'm looking at the graphical view points this way, graphics really don't matter.

Everyone has a PC and a lot of people will play games on there PC, the life of a PC and it's hardware/software are alot shorter compared to consoles. So though the 360's and PS3's graphical ability are superior to Wii's, PC's will always be that step ahead but do the same amount of people who play consoles play PC games? No, more people play consoles. Just because high end PC's will better that of console's graphics doesn't mean people play PC games because of it.

It's all about enjoyment, experience and interactment not just about graphics and a DVD player.
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Old 09-17-2006, 05:21 PM   #42
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Launch lineup:

* Avatar: The Last Airbender
* Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
* Blitz: The League
* Call of Duty 3
* Cars
* Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
* Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
* Elebits
* Excite Truck
* Far Cry
* GT Pro Series
* Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
* Madden NFL 07
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Metal Slug Anthology
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
* Monster 4x4 World Circuit
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* Open Season
* Rayman Raving Rabbids
* Red Steel
* SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
* Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
* Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
* Trauma Center: Second Opinion
* Wii Sports

Unimpressive. The only game I want is Ultimate Alliance, and I can get that on my PS2.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:02 PM   #43
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Last I heard Metroid had been delayed so will no longer be a launch game.

And it's not that unimpressive. As long as people can get Zelda and a few other titles to keep them busy, they should be fairly happy.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:20 PM   #44
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* Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Metal Slug Anthology
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
* Wii Sports

That's about all I really care about, as far as line up. I know that there are some good games coming up down the line (Smash Bros Brawl), but some of those launch titles are probably going to be crap (Care, Spongebob, etc).

And it's not like I don't have a DVD player, I'm just pointing out that it's a pretty basic feature and they're not taking advantage of it. When my dad's dvd player was acting up, what did we do? Plug my PS2 into the tv and watch movies with it. If the gamecube had a DVD feature (like that Japan-only version of the cube), I wouldn't have needed to buy a DVD player (didn't have one at the time). All I'm saying is you never know when it'll come in handy. And it's not like it would drive up the price the way Blu Ray is doing to the PS3.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:27 PM   #45
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Yeh Metroid's been delayed, which isn't really a bad thing! Retro stated around E3 time I think that Corruption wouldn't be mulitplayer and wouldn't go online, but that was when it was a planned launch title, this gives me the impression (as a Nintendo exec was talking about getting online playing Wii and used Metroid as an example, but that same article had a note from the editor saying that a PR guy had said: 'Though metroid hasn't been confirmed as online') that Corruption might now have a multiplayer/online mode, which would be awesome.

Also, with it being delayed, means I can spend my time, firstly, gazing in awe at the sexyness of the Hardware, touching the controller, setting up Mii, looking around THEN playing Wii sports for a while, THEN playing Zelda and letting it totally take over every spare minute THEN playing Red Steel and Excite Truck, and going back to Zelda cos it will take ages to complete and playing Wii sports a hundred more times, Metroid being delayed isn't a bad thing, as it's going to be hard enough to split my time.
Then when it comes along, I can devote a lot of time to that, which it's bound to take.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:44 PM   #46
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* Call of Duty 3
* Excite Truck
* Far Cry
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
* Madden NFL 07
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
* Rayman Raving Rabbids
* Red Steel
* Wii Sports

I'm looking forward to all of these. I thought Mario was going to be out for launch?
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* Call of Duty 3
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
* Metal Slug Anthology
* Red Steel
* Trauma Center: Second Opinion
* Wii Sports

and I guess Metroid when it eventually comes out, but I've never really played a Metroid game.
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:06 PM   #48
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The inclusion of the Internet browser is for the purpose of making people sit around the TV as a family and using the Internet, it's also a lot faster to connect to the internet and will probably be mad easy like it was getting your DS online with the WiFi.
Wow.

I have no idea where to start with that. Please name me one thing that you would do with your family on the internet. This isn't like the radio back in the 1930s. And how, in any way, other than already being at the TV, would it be faster to use your Wii.

That lineup is incredibly unimpressive and the only game I would want to play would be Zelda. After E3 I was kind of excited but now I think that was only because of the occasion.
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:17 PM   #49
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Nintendo suggested the example of booking a holiday on the internet, I'll hardly ever use it, but a feature is a feature to me.
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:57 PM   #50
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That's like saying "Microsoft said I can play solitare on this computer. I really don't like solitare, and will hardly ever play it, but that's pretty sweet."

Seriously, that's how insignificant that is. Booking a vacation on your Wii? That's going to happen what, once.. maybe twice in the entire time you own the thing. Odds are, it won't even happen at all. You peope are just digging for anything now, and these reasons are getting ridiculous.
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:21 PM   #51
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That's like saying "Microsoft said I can play solitare on this computer. I really don't like solitare, and will hardly ever play it, but that's pretty sweet."

Seriously, that's how insignificant that is. Booking a vacation on your Wii? That's going to happen what, once.. maybe twice in the entire time you own the thing. Odds are, it won't even happen at all. You peope are just digging for anything now, and these reasons are getting ridiculous.
Nintendo's suggestion. Not mine. The browser will cost points anyway, so its completely optional.

But it IS an option, the option is there if you want it, and maybe someone will have a good use for it, and I'd rather have it available at the click of a button should I need it for whatever reason than not at all, is that hard to comprehend?
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:59 PM   #53
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Can you use points to upgrade the system into a PS3?

If so, I'm sold.
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Nah, since the store probably won't have items they'd have to GIVE you points in order to make you want to buy it.
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The games I could be gettign at launch, although I'll end up buying only two or three because of money issues:

* Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
* Excite Truck
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
* Rayman Raving Rabbids
* Red Steel
* Trauma Center: Second Opinion

Zelda is a given, and I didn't include Wii Sports because it's packed in. That's seven potential launch titles, which is pretty impressive in my opinion.
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Old 09-17-2006, 11:46 PM   #56
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A more up to date launch list.

Games

Nintendo announced that at launch their titles will include:
  • Wii Sports
  • The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
  • Excite Truck
Third party titles announced or expected to make launch so far:
  • Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision)
  • Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Atari)
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus)
  • Madden NFL 07 (EA)
  • Need for Speed Carbon (EA)
  • Elebits (Konami)
  • Blitz: The League (Midway)
  • Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (Sega)
  • Metal Slug Anthology (SNK)
  • Cars (THQ)
  • SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab (THQ)
  • Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII (Ubisoft)
  • Far Cry (Ubisoft)
  • GT Pro Series (Ubisoft)
  • Open Season (Ubisoft)
  • Monster 4X4 World Circuit (Ubisoft)
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
  • Red Steel (Ubisoft)
Third Party Wii Titles Through March 27, 2007:
  • Call of Duty 3 (Activision)
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (Activision)
  • Rapala Tournament Fishing (Activision)
  • Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision)
  • World Series of Poker (Activision)
  • Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2 (Atari)
  • Trauma Center : Second Opinion (Atlus)
  • Chicken Little: Ace in Action (Buena Vista Games)
  • Disney's Meet the Robinsons (Buena Vista Games)
  • Dance Factory (Codemasters)
  • Sidewinder (Codemasters)
  • The Godfather (EA)
  • Madden NFL 07 (EA)
  • Need for Speed: Carbon (EA)
  • SSX (EA)
  • Tiger Woods PGA Tour (EA)
  • Elebits (Konami)
  • Bust A Move Revolution (Majesco)
  • The Ant Bully (Midway)
  • The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (Midway)
  • Happy Feet (Midway)
  • Mortal Kombat: Armageddon (Midway)
  • Rampage: Total Destruction (Midway)
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings (Sega)
  • Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz (Sega)
  • Metal Slug Anthology (SNK)
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender (THQ)
  • Barnyard (THQ)
  • Cars (THQ)
  • SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab (THQ)
  • Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII (Ubisoft)
  • Far Cry: Vengeance (Ubisoft)
  • GT Pro Series (Ubisoft)
  • Monster 4x4: World Circuit (Ubisoft)
  • Open Season (Ubisoft)
  • Prince of Persia (Ubisoft)
  • Rayman: Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
  • RED STEEL (Ubisoft)
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Ubisoft)
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Ubisoft)
  • Ice Age 2 (Vivendi)
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:14 AM   #57
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The Wii is about 3 DVD cases in size. The newer announcements are the Wii Channels and Wii Browser. The Wii Channels are some 48 Channels for wii related stuff, like the 'Mii' channel for caricatures, a News Channel, and a Weather Channel where you can see weather forecasts all ove the world.

For games, at launch, the big games I see are Red Steel, Rayman Raving Rabbids, and Legend of Zelda Twiglight Princess. Unfortunatley, Metroid Prime slipped to 2007, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy are two other major 2007 players.

While you can still order games from the Virtual Console and use the Wii Browser( you will be able to code Wii games, last I heard), third party titles will not use Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for multiplayer, although the jury's still out on whether or not WiiConnect24 will be useable by third parties prior to 2007.

The Wii graphically is and always will be inferior to the other two consoles. Will first party Wii titles look better than a lot of 360 titles? sure, but don't try to compare Metroid Prime 3 and Halo 3 graphically. Both titles look great, but the 360 can just do more.

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BTW, EGM reported a while back that an early playable version of Red Steel looks sexy, but plays like jittery shit. Pretty disappointed right there.

I see myself getting a Wii somewhere down the line, but definitely not at t launch.
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Wow.

I have no idea where to start with that. Please name me one thing that you would do with your family on the internet. This isn't like the radio back in the 1930s. And how, in any way, other than already being at the TV, would it be faster to use your Wii.

That lineup is incredibly unimpressive and the only game I would want to play would be Zelda. After E3 I was kind of excited but now I think that was only because of the occasion.
I shall be using the internet to it's full extent on a TV. (e.g. set my homepage as youtube :P)

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BTW, EGM reported a while back that an early playable version of Red Steel looks sexy, but plays like jittery shit. Pretty disappointed right there.

I see myself getting a Wii somewhere down the line, but definitely not at t launch.
The newer versions are fixed up. Apparantly, the sword follows your controllers movement now as well, which I didn't before.

Anyways, I'm goignt ot dip into my savingds for this ebcause as well as the console and 2 controllers, I shall be getting:
  • The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
  • Excite Truck
  • Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • Madden NFL 07
  • Blitz: The League
  • Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
  • Metal Slug Anthology
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Red Steel
Thats gonna set me back a bit, and also pre-order the following:
Sonic
Morio Galaxy
Super Smash Bros.
Metroid Prime 3
Dragon Quest
and SSX

Damn, I cannot wait for December!
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2007, thats all we know.

And it appears Amazon have sold out of pre-orders

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Old 09-19-2006, 05:33 AM   #62
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When is Mario coming out?

I've been wondering the same thing. We all know it he should just admit to it.
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Luigi is not his "brother" in the literal sense...
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Wow.

I have no idea where to start with that. Please name me one thing that you would do with your family on the internet. This isn't like the radio back in the 1930s. And how, in any way, other than already being at the TV, would it be faster to use your Wii.
Pleanty, the amount of times my Dad asks me to do things, find things, tells me to look at things for him on the internet is countless. Only yesterday infact did he ask me to do two things, which both times required me to boot up my PC, log in, wait a couple minutes, then 1: Find an address and a telephone number of a local Football ground and 2: Check out some videos on youtube of some group he liked when he was a kid and couldn't rememeber something. It will be faster to turn on my 'never off' Wii and connect to the internet then doing it through my PC.

My sister and here boyfriend, who both really don't get on with PC's looking for a hoilday on the Internet (point and click) probably easier for the computer illiterate.
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Yes, he is.
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Also, it's like you're saying people aren't going to use the Wii Internet browser, when you're using the Internet now, what makes it different from sitting on my sofa and using a Wii controller instead of a mouse.

There will also be ideas that families might not have thought about doing with the Internet before now, sat in your front room or whatever. Looking at porn together, who knows, shopping, also gives you another option to use the internet if someone else is on the PC.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:28 AM   #68
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The Wii is more portable than other systems too, so say you go away for a couple of weeks, you bring your Wii along to kill some time when you can't be bothered to be out exploring your surroundings. The hotel you're staying in has Wi-Fi access. Win.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:31 AM   #69
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I'll be getting (along with another Wii-mote and Nunchuk and Classic Controller as well as possibly another Gamecube memory card just to be on the safe side and Wii sports cos it's bundled)

*Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
*Red Steel
*Excite Truck

Probably leave it at that and ask for some games for Christmas, being Call of Duty 3 namely.

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And the Wii Browser has Flash, so if there's any porn equivalent of YouTube around, you have two birds with one stone.
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LOL.

With people having grievances with the name, Wii and porn isn't probably the best combination.

I know that porn ins't really a thing Nintendo wanted Wii to be associated with and not many families would gather round and watch porn (unless you live in the deep south of America haha) but Boyfriend/Girlfriend/Wife/husbands could gather round maybe.
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I can think of several times the family has been huddled around the Computer looking at pics or whatever. And on many occasions I have wished to have bigger screen for my PC so we wouldn't have to be jumbled next to one another. It will be nice to be able to show whatever it is we're looking at on the big screen. It's a neat feature with several applications. I'm interested in seeing how well it functions.
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Also, it's like you're saying people aren't going to use the Wii Internet browser, when you're using the Internet now, what makes it different from sitting on my sofa and using a Wii controller instead of a mouse.
I find it much more convenient to press a button to start up a PC rather then use my Wii controller to type in an address, search, or anything with text. Even if you used a keyboard, I wouldn't want to have to go unplug my keyboard just to use it for Wii.

I can't imagine a single moment I would ever use thee Wii Internet. Ever.
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So I have to pay even more money? Yeah, $250 looks good for a console, but I'll have to spend almost another $120 on Wiimotes, another $170 for the nunchucks and classic controller, just to have a set of each controller for 4 people, another $30+ for a (cheap) wireless keyboard just to use the inconvenient internet add-on that I have to purchase so I don't have to constantly have to unplug my keyboard from my computer and then replug after I looked up YouTube videos for the family.

~$250+320=$570 Doesn't sound like a big deal to me anymore.

And before you ask, yes, I like to have enough controllers for when my friends come over that we can all take advantage of multiplayer games. So in order for me to get any use of the console when I have more than 2 friends with me, I'll have to have enough controllers for everyone to play. Kind of a big deal.
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So I have to pay even more money? Yeah, $250 looks good for a console, but I'll have to spend almost another $120 on Wiimotes, another $170 for the nunchucks and classic controller, just to have a set of each controller for 4 people, another $30+ for a (cheap) wireless keyboard just to use the inconvenient internet add-on that I have to purchase so I don't have to constantly have to unplug my keyboard from my computer and then replug after I looked up YouTube videos for the family.

~$250+320=$570 Doesn't sound like a big deal to me anymore.

And before you ask, yes, I like to have enough controllers for when my friends come over that we can all take advantage of multiplayer games. So in order for me to get any use of the console when I have more than 2 friends with me, I'll have to have enough controllers for everyone to play. Kind of a big deal.
Luckily, all my friends seem to be getting one, so they can just cart theirs over
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