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Old 09-20-2006, 01:08 PM   #41
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Yeah but for 4 years EVERYONE has said That TNA is going uder Tomorrow.

Anyway whats the differecne of getting killed on Monday as opposed to a Thursday? Nothing

And that is the only thing in the world that could live up to Dixie Carter's statmentl.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:11 PM   #42
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They would be "killed" to a greater extent on Mondays then Thursdays. Thats barely debatable. They would be pulled so fast it doesn't even merit a joke.
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And the boards IQ will lower.

Win/win/win/lose
And Eric Angle and his "Brother" Christian will get a major push cashing in on his memory.

Win/win/win/lose/win.

The only people who lose are any Angle family members concerned with his health more than cash.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:20 PM   #44
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They would be "killed" to a greater extent on Mondays then Thursdays. Thats barely debatable. They would be pulled so fast it doesn't even merit a joke.
They would pull in their best ratings. Also who cares if youg et destoryed it would get your product notice which would be good in the long term.

Of course if they keep putting out the shows they have been doing for a month then there might maybe your right.

Also I'm calling that if TNA does get a Monday time slot(which probably won't happen) they would do a 1.7.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:22 PM   #45
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Almost double there current ratings......why? Because they are up against competition? Thats not what got WCW over. Contreversy, stealling star, etc. Things TNA really doesn't have the cash to pull off. Not the fact they were opposite of the WWF.
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Okay, here's how I see it. WCW, pre-Nitro, was barely on the map. Once they got Nitro, they didn't do much of anything until they broke out with the nWo stuff, etc. I see TNA now as WCW was back in 1993 or so. Not many big stars, but having the potential to become big. TNA was never huge, so they could very easily become huge. If they bothered trying.
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Almost double there current ratings......why? Because they are up against competition? Thats not what got WCW over. Contreversy, stealling star, etc. Things WCW really doesn't have the cash to pull off. Not the fact they were opposite of the WWF.
Because they are on a wrestling night in America. Why all of us are watching RAW we are going to switch to TNA. Probably 98% are going to deny it but we all will. All the smart fans are going to turn on TNA.

It would happen.
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It didn't work for WCW, I don't see why it would for TNA. These alleged "smart fans" (I would debate the opposite) only equal into a .9 rating. Thats TNA's current audience. The casuals (the VAST majority of the audience) are not going to tune in just because there are two wrestling shows on at the same time. That deduction makes no sense. Being on opposite of WWF didn't help WCW, and It's not going to help TNA either legend.
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What you mean didn't help WCW? WCW beat WWE for 84 consecutive weeks. WCW just didn't have a good long term plan. If WCW was never on Monday night they wouldn't have gotten has big

But see I think there's more then .9 smart fans out there who know about TNA, but see people don't turn into now, becasue they don't go out of there way to see it. Now if it's on Monday night and they are already watching wrestling then what is gonna stop from turning on Impact?

Also I completly Disargee with you about people not turning on wrestling just because there's another wrestling show. People will tune into another wrestling show, because they can. It's nature of a wrestling fan.
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Almost double there current ratings......why? Because they are up against competition? Thats not what got WCW over. Controversy, stealing star, etc. Things TNA really doesn't have the cash to pull off. Not the fact they were opposite of the WWF.
Though ratings were poor early on, WCW Nitro improved in mid-1996 and went on to draw better ratings than the WWF for 84 continuous weeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_Monday_Nitro

From 93-96 ratings were poor. Until when? The NWO. I.E. a good angle, not the fact they were opposite competition. Saying that being opposite of the WWE is helpful, is stupid. Creative and controversial ideas got them over, not their time slot.

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Maybe, or maybe they'd still be around, who's to say?

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But see I think there's more then .9 smart fans out there who know about TNA, but see people don't turn into now, because they don't go out of there way to see it. Now if it's on Monday night and they are already watching wrestling then what is gonna stop from turning on Impact?
Monday Night RAW. They wont go out of their way when there's nothing else on to watch, but they are going to when there IS something else on? Doesn't make much sense.

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Facts are against you here. 3 years of Nitro getting shit made them try something different, and it got over and put them on the map. NOT THEIR TIME SLOT.

TNA needs to get some moderate success with current time slot before they try and swim in the deep end. Their loyal "smart" fans works as decent floaties, but under the weight of the WWE giant they wont last. WWF has made a fortune of putting wrestling companies out of business over the past 50 years, lets at least give TNA a fighting chance before you feed them to the dogs.
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I was wrong with a bit there. Nitro only bombed for a year and a half until they stepped up there game.
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First off I suck at breaking quotes here and way too much work for me to do that.

Now those poor ratings had to be a high 1's low 2's. That's huge for TNA.

Now see people aren't tuning into see them on Thursday because there is other stuff on besides wrestling that they watch, and they are not breaking their schdules. Monday is wrestling night and almost every wrestling fan is watching wrestling then.

Now you say they should establish themselves on another night guess what I argee, but if you want ratings right away then Monday is the only place to go.

Like I said a Monday Time slot would be the only thing that could live up to this annnocument. Maybe Goldberg signing could live up to it.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:27 PM   #54
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1)Huge for TNA is a good Sunday Night Heat for the WWE, are they really ready for them head-to-head?

2)While every wrestling fan is watching Monday, they are watching RAW, are the going to break their schedule for a lackluster show?

3)Do you want ratings right away (although I don't think they will get them,) or do you want a long term goal that doesn't end in Vince buying off all of your assets?

4)TNA over hypes, I believe it's probably a two hour time slot (which would be huge, imo,) but not on Mondays. That would be suicide.

5)Dunno, I'm bored with this argument, so as far as I'm concerned we'll just have to wait and see it all play out.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:42 PM   #55
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LOL, I don't think Vince would even bother to save TNA or buy their video tape library. In four years TNA has maybe 5 (MAYBE) hours of good wrestling and moments; the rest is junk.
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Speaking personally, I have absolutely nothing to do or watch on Thursdays and I still forget to watch TNA. It was totally fucking awesome at first, but now it's just sorta dragging. It feels repetitious and dry. In all honesty, if I had a choice between watching a recent RAW or a recent Impact, I'd go with the RAW...until a women's match or something, maybe. Going to Monday wouldn't make me any more likely to watch it at all, except as an alternative to specific matches.
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It's probably the two-hour time slot or Goldberg. Kurt Angle is a slight possibility, though not likely.

I think they might possibly try and get a slot opposite of a WWE show. If they try Monday, they will probably lose miserably. However, if they aired it during ECW or Smackdown, it could work. Any timeslot better than Thursdays @ 11PM/10PM would probably bring better ratings;

Think of the possibilities if it were Angle though.
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Ah, forgot about the bottomless pit of cash behind WCW thanks to Ted Turner. Yeah, TNA doesn't have a chance.
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Ah, forgot about the bottomless pit of cash behind WCW thanks to Ted Turner. Yeah, TNA doesn't have a chance.
I didn't think that needed mentioning.
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Ah, forgot about the bottomless pit of cash behind WCW thanks to Ted Turner. Yeah, TNA doesn't have a chance.
Why do people forget that so often? That was what made WCW stay afloat for so long.
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Yea, without Turner, WCW would have died before the NWO. Impact is so bad now because the film 3 episodes in 1 day. So they have to have certain characters in brawls and interviews for 2 shows, then they wrestle in 1 show. It is so stupid, and if they cannot afford to film each week and allow the stars to wrestle and keep feuds fresh, they just need to get the fuck of of TV.
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before tuner they were part of nwa and the nwa will never go away, it is the wwe that won't last past vince once vince dies so does the wwe.
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considering the NWA was only recently brought back together I don't think your argument has much grounds.
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Actually, NWA was around...I mean not in a way that actually mattered...but there has been at least five promotions across the globe at any one time that carried the banner of "NWA". I know this is a technicality argument, but I am just pointing it out...
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TNA is teasing that the big announcement on tonight's show will be delivered by a wrestler who is not on the show. I guess the tease is to make you think a new star coming in. The only thing I'm told is there is a debate whether people will give it a thumbs up or thumbs down and if it will live up to the hype. I'm also told the appearance of whomever this person is will be the final thing on the show.
Please don't let it be Luger making the announcment.
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Old 09-24-2006, 04:42 PM   #70
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How about Buff?
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Old 09-24-2006, 04:43 PM   #71
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That is seconded...and Not Buff Bagwell, or even Judy Bagwell for that matter.
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Buff, Judy and Lex Luger delivering the news as a singing telegram. Ratings?
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How about Buff?
Buff would suck but he would be better then Luger.
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Old 09-24-2006, 04:58 PM   #74
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I bet it'll be Russo.

Then he'll call out Jarrett and have him job to him.
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Seriously though I think Sting is the one who will be doing the announcing of the announcment.
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It's either Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Chris Jericho, Steve Austin, American Dragon or a big fat dissapointment.
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It'd be mad if The Rock did the announcement. Or if Kurt Angle or Chris Jericho did it. LOL if it's Kanyon. I love that guy.

The announcement should be a multiple things. New timeslot, longer show, Luger, Bagwell, Angle, Russo and Goldberg. That would be huge. Throw Lesnar in there and you have yourself something that WILL change the wrestling industry.

Seriously, Monday would be awesome for TNA. Instead of bitching about The McMahons being on TV, again, you can switch over and watch Jay Lethal and Senshi have a great match. They really need two hours, so hopefully that is it as well. Two hours is more critical then a better timeslot, if you ask me. Destor, you know I love you, but of course people are more likely to tune in if they are already watching a wrestling show. A switch during ads, a boring segment. Instead of switching to NFL (or whatever is on over there at alternate times), they can turn to iMpact!. The WWE will then probably turn out the big guns, but with TNA putting out great TV, and if they get another show to compete with the WWE (I'm thinking one show Monday, and another Thursday), TNA could do some real damage. I also like the idea of TNA putting on Specials (as rumoured).

And for those that think the product is stale and mundane, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN RUSSO FOR!!!! A lot of people may not like the guy, but at least he's not boring. He's better than any Nickelodeon writer, that's for sure. Russo's crap > the WWE's crap.

I think the best thing they can do for their product at No Surrender, is have Jeff Jarrett no show the event. Make it seem like he is scared of the crowd (and that could be good heat), and then have Jim Cornette get pissed, which leads to him stripping Jeff Jarrett of the NWA World Heavyweight Championship on the spot, and announcing Samoa Joe the new Champion. It would be fresh, exciting, and it prevents a crappy Fan Lumberjack Match. If they want a match in its place, have Scott Steiner come out and challenge Joe to his first title match. Joe, of course, retains.
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It's either Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Chris Jericho, Steve Austin, American Dragon or a big fat dissapointment.
Seriously, how awesome would it be if the WWE just marched out a whole bunch of talent?

Jim Cornette comes out, and introduces us to the surprise. Lex Luger and Buff Bagwell come out to some generic music. They say they are two of the greatest icons in the history of the business. Bryan Danielson then comes out, and they ask who he is. He says he if the true future of this business. Brock Lesnar then comes out, and says he is the youngest WWE Champion of all-time (which he still technically is), but that means nothing, he wants the real World Championship, the NWA World Heavyweight Title.

Chris Jericho then comes out and says that Lesnar will win the NWA Title before he does over his crippled body. That brings out Steve Austin, who says he may be crippled, but he cannot escape the allure of potentially kicking Jeff Jarrett's ass. Then Kurt Angle comes out, and says that you want to talk about cripples who kick ass, Angle won a Gold Medal with a broken freakin' neck! He then proceeded to win the WWE Championship, WCW Championship and World Heavyweight Championship with a broken freakin' neck! In fact, he just drove here from Pennsylvania with a broken freakin' neck!

Goldberg then runs through the crowd, Spears Bagwell, and then Jackhammers him, as everyone just watches on from ringside. Goldberg asks "Who's Next!?!" and then "If ya smell-ell-ell-ell-ell-ell! What The Rock...is cooking?", and out comes the star of the Gridiron Gang, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson! The Rock then asks "Who in the blue Hell, are all of you? It doesn't matter who you are! The Rock has a huge announcement to make on behalf of TNA, specifically that man, Jimmy Cornette. And who better to deliver it than The Rock?

"Who better than Kanyon?!?!?!?!" plays over the PA, as a theme similar to his WWE theme plays, and Chris Kanyon comes out of the entrance way, with a shirt that says "TNA MVP". Kanyon gets on the mic and shouts "Guess what everybody? I agreed to the terms and conditions, I'm whoring my name out! In return for giving them the right to market my name, Christopher Morgan Kanyon (CM Kanyon for short) is going to bring his no limits, innovative style to TNA. Hoobah! The Rock then tells Kanyon he has been doing something whacky, in Rock-style. Kanyon and The Rock then brawl, with Kanyon actually getting the better of The Rock. Angle and Austin are going at it at ringside, which leads to Cornette getting knocked down, and Jericho and Lesnar begin taking shots at each other. Goldberg and Luger are brawling in the ring. That leaves Bryan Danielson to just leave unscathed, calmly walking through the war that is raging.

The Rock can come out later and finally make the announcement that TNA will be getting a two-hour timeslot on Mondays.
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The word going around backstage at the No Surrender PPV in Orlando, Florida is that in an effort to prevent the surprise from being leaked out, whoever it is will be hidden at a hotel until around 9:30 PM before being brought over to the PPV.

The surprise appearance/announcement is set to close the show. There are only a handful within TNA who know what the announcement is and all have signed non disclosure agreements. There is a lot of anticipation and excitement backstage over whatever is planned, although some of the wrestlers are disgruntled about having to wait to find out what it is at the same time as the fans watching the show.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=20489&p=1

It seems like it's going to be a HUGE deal.
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