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Old 11-04-2006, 10:52 PM   #41
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It's called A.I. adaptation. It makes it so the game's not pathetically easy. And that No Mercy thing makes it more realistic too, if you're throwing all grapple blocks to a grappler, of course the grappler is going to try striking, even in a real match. Look, if you knew a perfect counter to an Armbar, in say, MMA, of course the guy is not going to try for an armbar. He is going to try for something else, because he doesn't want to be countered and chained into a predicament he doesnt want to be in.

It's not cheating, it's realism.
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:16 PM   #42
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So it's realistic for one guy to have to hit button combinations but the other not to?

Or for cars to be immune to damage?

Also, let me ask you this: Why the fuck would you choose the examples that weren't given as cheating, but were actually given as an example of an adaptive AI? Did you even read the thread?
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:34 PM   #43
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So it's realistic for one guy to have to hit button combinations but the other not to?
Even I can become a 10 time world champion by just having to press L1.
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:52 PM   #44
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Shao Khan on UMK3 cheats
he lets you win the first or second round, then after you've won one he will go knee attack crazy on you...
still beat him tho ...twice
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:50 AM   #45
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But the most glaring example of CPU cheating I can think of is Shin Akuma in Capcom vs SNK 2. Not only is he (at least) 3 times faster than you, has priority coming out his ass and doesn't always finish his animations when branching into other moves, but he can also do ground moves while still in the air (but at least only on occasion). Ultimate Rugal is pretty bad too.
That's not cheating, it's just unfair. It's SNK Boss Syndrome!

It's fairly common in fighting games, see also Bison in Street Fighter Alpha 3, Gill in Street Fighter 2, Dizzy in Guilty Gear X, I-No in Guilty Gear XX, most other SNK bosses, True Ogre in Tekken 3. I'll stop now.
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:10 PM   #46
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In Fifa 2006 in an important match against a better oppenent, all of a sudden my players can't pass and always send the ball in comletely the wrong direction
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:37 PM   #47
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That's not cheating, it's just unfair. It's SNK Boss Syndrome!

It's fairly common in fighting games, see also Bison in Street Fighter Alpha 3, Gill in Street Fighter 2, Dizzy in Guilty Gear X, I-No in Guilty Gear XX, most other SNK bosses, True Ogre in Tekken 3. I'll stop now.
I-No not so much. She has a super mover that is basically an "unavoidable" one hit kill (during which time she is also invincible), but there are 2 ways around it.

1. Recognize the pattern and stand in an appropriate spot (there's like 4 variations to the move, all with a spot where the move will miss).

2. Hit your one hit kill first.

Anyway, SNK boss syndrome refers to characters that are mad broken, intentionally like Gill and most of the SNK bosses. A lot of bosses (especially playable ones) just get ramped up speed and power. Then when you play them, they are suddenly infected wih regularcharacteritis and are just like everyone else. That's what I was kinda getting at with Shin Akuma and I-No. Also True Ogre = mad pussy.
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:38 PM   #48
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In Fifa 2006 in an important match against a better oppenent, all of a sudden my players can't pass and always send the ball in comletely the wrong direction
That is a glitch I think. That tends to happen to me at random times.
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:37 AM   #49
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I-No not so much. She has a super mover that is basically an "unavoidable" one hit kill (during which time she is also invincible), but there are 2 ways around it.

Also True Ogre = mad pussy.
Yeah I know, but it's still the point she's invincible that makes it.

I know True Ogre is a bit shit, I was trying to think of one from a 3D beat em up, although how could I forget whatshername from DOA4 - who still pales in comparrison to most of the 2D ones.
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:11 AM   #50
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In fighting games that's called "cheapness".

In Final Fantasy XI, if you're aggroed by a mob, the mob has the authority to pass right through a solid closed door to come after you, it seems. Not only that, but a few nights ago I learned it may quite possibly climb up cliffs and walls that quite possibly even God couldn't climb up to get to where you are to own your ass. And it's usually a "Incrediably Tough" mob or a NM that'll chase you to the fucking end of the zone to kill you.
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