Why Was Evolution so popular - Page 2

**Shadow** · 10-27-2006, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor

Wow Trips politicking is more powerful than I thought... You mean to tell me he can now manipulate the perception of the entire audience into believing that Orton is a shit face?

No no no...let me see if I can explain.

I think it was the sudden face change that just made people not like Orton. I mean, throughout the fued, he was the one chasing HHH, not the other way around. I think that's what made people turn on Orton the way he did.

That and the fact that he's a shit face.

**addy2hotty** · 10-27-2006, 10:31 AM

I don't think Orton has ever been that good, the way people blow their loads over him and his IC title run is pretty amusing. Think back, name one good feud he had FOR the IC title during that title run (without looking it up on the internet)? His run was as great as Sheltons first run.

I can think of one moment in his entire career that I went 'wow'. That was when he gave some DDT to RVD from the top.

It's kinda good that Edge and Orton are together, as a tag-team feud with DX is about as good as it will get for them.

**Loose Cannon** · 10-27-2006, 11:11 AM

Foley. Nuff said.

**Dave Youell** · 10-27-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Foley. Nuff said.

Foley 'Made' Orton IMO, gave him his first memorable match really.

Since then nothings come close, Maybe his match with Taker at Mania, but it wasn't great, plus he jobbed then.

Oh and LC, where the fuck have you been recently?

**Kane Knight** · 10-27-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeritron5000

Thats only because Edge has the crowd in the palm of his hands.

Okay.

**Splaya** · 10-27-2006, 02:33 PM

Evolution was great because of obvious reasons.

HHH- Leading another group
Orton- The young cocky heel that everyone was hating.
Batista- The alleged monster that everyone feared
Flair- Enough said.

Flair would always get the pops because of his status, HHH would get major heel heat due to obvious reasons. Tista was there to be molded and get "taught" the ropes. Orton was the man of Evolution. When I was watching Wrestlemania 20, and the promo he gave with Flair and Tista standing by him, and it reeked of him being the leader of Evolution.

**tucsonspeed6** · 10-27-2006, 05:49 PM

It comes down to this: They weren't the same crap that was being shoved down our throats with every heel at the time. WE didn't see the same crap over and over with them.

How many times do we see the same heel repackaged with a new, bland bag of muscles. Sure, they may be cocky like Chris Masters, mean like Finlay, or otherwise hated just for their gimmick by being foreign, an authority, etc, but they always act the same way. They always talk big until the face shows up, at which time they run scared. They always dominate the match with rest holds until the last minute when the face turns the match completely around with a single move at which time the face either wins, or the heel cheats for the win. And how often do we see a heel champion who actually earned the belt they wear?

People are sick and tired of seeing the same undeserving champions, the same chicken-shit act, the same non-finishes to matches. I'm not saying that Evolution didn't have their own share of fluke victories or retreats from the ring, but they were a hell of a lot better than the crap that's dished out to us week after week these days.

**M-A-G** · 10-27-2006, 05:53 PM

Whoever said they were popular?

**Crippla** · 10-27-2006, 08:09 PM

"They" did.

**Crippla** · 10-27-2006, 08:09 PM

They really were popular though. I actually miss the Evolution days.

**the wwe champion** · 10-29-2006, 10:52 AM

BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY STABLE ON THE RAW ROSTER.

10-30-2006, 07:46 PM

I'd be willing to wager that because Ric Flair was once again in a 4-man stable, it kind of reminded people of the Four Horsemen...just a guess...

**AdrianM** · 10-31-2006, 04:29 AM

I was never a huge fan of Evolution.

Trips completely dominated the roster, up to the point where in his final title run, there really was no viable contender to the title except HBK.
Ric Flair's role in evolution was a lap-dog like character...it made me sick honestly, saying Hunter is the greatest wrestler ever...c'mon!!!
Batista was boring most of the time. He was the one who was jobbed out the most and honestly didn't seem like a big deal until Randy left.
Randy Orton however was awesome. I think that was his best time as a wrestler so far. However, him losing the title aftera month was ridiculous. If they'd done it right, they could have carried that feud all the way up to Wrestlemania 22 IMO

**AdrianM** · 10-31-2006, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by addy2hotty

I don't think Orton has ever been that good, the way people blow their loads over him and his IC title run is pretty amusing. Think back, name one good feud he had FOR the IC title during that title run (without looking it up on the internet)? His run was as great as Sheltons first run.

I can think of one moment in his entire career that I went 'wow'. That was when he gave some DDT to RVD from the top.

It's kinda good that Edge and Orton are together, as a tag-team feud with DX is about as good as it will get for them.

ummm, Orton VS Mick Foley...and yes, it was for the IC title at Backlash. He also had a good little feud with RVD and a good longer feud with Edge.
But that whole Orton run wasn't just about the IC title, it was also about killing legends. Great time for Orton

**M-A-G** · 10-31-2006, 06:11 PM

Sure, great for Orton. A pain for everyone else.

**M-A-G** · 10-31-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianCrippla

They really were popular though. I actually miss the Evolution days.

D-X was popular. The Four Horsemen were popular. The NWO was popular. Evolution was just all over the shows and given the best angles (well what would count as the best in WWE world) to give the illusion that they were worth a damn.

**AdrianM** · 10-31-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by M-A-G

D-X was popular. The Four Horsemen were popular. The NWO was popular. Evolution was just all over the shows and given the best angles (well what would count as the best in WWE world) to give the illusion that they were worth a damn.

10-27-2006, 10:31 AM	#42
addy2hotty yes. yes. yes. Posts: 2,753	I don't think Orton has ever been that good, the way people blow their loads over him and his IC title run is pretty amusing. Think back, name one good feud he had FOR the IC title during that title run (without looking it up on the internet)? His run was as great as Sheltons first run. I can think of one moment in his entire career that I went 'wow'. That was when he gave some DDT to RVD from the top. It's kinda good that Edge and Orton are together, as a tag-team feud with DX is about as good as it will get for them.

10-27-2006, 11:11 AM	#43
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Foley. Nuff said.

10-27-2006, 02:33 PM	#46
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Evolution was great because of obvious reasons. HHH- Leading another group Orton- The young cocky heel that everyone was hating. Batista- The alleged monster that everyone feared Flair- Enough said. Flair would always get the pops because of his status, HHH would get major heel heat due to obvious reasons. Tista was there to be molded and get "taught" the ropes. Orton was the man of Evolution. When I was watching Wrestlemania 20, and the promo he gave with Flair and Tista standing by him, and it reeked of him being the leader of Evolution.

10-27-2006, 05:49 PM	#47
tucsonspeed6 Banned WWE on 1/1/07 Posts: 2,141	It comes down to this: They weren't the same crap that was being shoved down our throats with every heel at the time. WE didn't see the same crap over and over with them. How many times do we see the same heel repackaged with a new, bland bag of muscles. Sure, they may be cocky like Chris Masters, mean like Finlay, or otherwise hated just for their gimmick by being foreign, an authority, etc, but they always act the same way. They always talk big until the face shows up, at which time they run scared. They always dominate the match with rest holds until the last minute when the face turns the match completely around with a single move at which time the face either wins, or the heel cheats for the win. And how often do we see a heel champion who actually earned the belt they wear? People are sick and tired of seeing the same undeserving champions, the same chicken-shit act, the same non-finishes to matches. I'm not saying that Evolution didn't have their own share of fluke victories or retreats from the ring, but they were a hell of a lot better than the crap that's dished out to us week after week these days.

10-27-2006, 05:53 PM	#48
M-A-G Higher. Further. Faster. Posts: 21,179	Whoever said they were popular?

10-27-2006, 08:09 PM	#49
Crippla Anger Posts: 10,624	"They" did.

10-29-2006, 10:52 AM	#51
the wwe champion The Pain ! Posts: 238	BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY STABLE ON THE RAW ROSTER.

10-30-2006, 07:46 PM	#52
DominateR Guest Posts: n/a	I'd be willing to wager that because Ric Flair was once again in a 4-man stable, it kind of reminded people of the Four Horsemen...just a guess...

10-31-2006, 04:29 AM	#53
AdrianM aka Aussie_Skier Posts: 526	I was never a huge fan of Evolution. Trips completely dominated the roster, up to the point where in his final title run, there really was no viable contender to the title except HBK. Ric Flair's role in evolution was a lap-dog like character...it made me sick honestly, saying Hunter is the greatest wrestler ever...c'mon!!! Batista was boring most of the time. He was the one who was jobbed out the most and honestly didn't seem like a big deal until Randy left. Randy Orton however was awesome. I think that was his best time as a wrestler so far. However, him losing the title aftera month was ridiculous. If they'd done it right, they could have carried that feud all the way up to Wrestlemania 22 IMO

10-31-2006, 06:11 PM	#55
M-A-G Higher. Further. Faster. Posts: 21,179	Sure, great for Orton. A pain for everyone else.