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Old 11-14-2006, 04:29 PM   #1
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Oh, well, glad we cleared that up.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:41 PM   #2
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I still like Raw/SD. Not a fan of Cena, but I've seen worse (*coughMysteriocough*).


I don't see what all the complaining is about either, to be honest.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:45 PM   #3
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Would it blunt your wrath to realize that people just might not like what other people like?
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:51 PM   #4
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I generally try to like every WWE show, and look for the positives and enjoy them. However, Raw has been boring me to tears lately, and I can't watch it. I want it to turn around, I want the WWE to turn around.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:12 PM   #5
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I haven't watched smackdown since Rey was champ.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:33 PM   #8
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SmackDown! has improved tremendously, it's better than Raw right now.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:35 PM   #9
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The problem with Cryme Tyme is that they are awful in the ring. JTG and Shad Gaspard should really still be in OVW. Actually, DSW has the better teams, so a move over there would have done them some good.

Triple H and Shawn Michaels just aren't funny. They are trying too hard, their jokes are something that 12 year olds would be heard rattling off. OK, we get it! A rooster can be called a "cock". A "cock" is also a nickname given to a penis. You didn't need to put it on a shirt. I'm sure the people that originally came up with using "cock" as a slang for penis didn't make that bigger deal about it.

Edge and Randy Orton winning the World Tag Team Championship is good, as people might care about the belts now they're on main eventers, again. The Intercontinental Championship changes are somewhat interesting, but a little redundant. They should bring in Joey Mercury to feud with Johnny Nitro over the Title.

John Cena is not the best thing going for the WWE right now. To paraphrase a line from Scrubs, John Cena's "like the guy who goes to a garage sale, buys a bronze medal without having served, and gets everyone to call him Sarge. And newbie, nobody likes that guy". He moves like a retard in the ring, he's just not charismatic enough to be in the position he currently is. He's feuding with Umaga, who is just a stupid character.

Thank God the WWE still has SmackDown!...
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:56 PM   #14
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The problem with Cryme Tyme is that they are awful in the ring. JTG and Shad Gaspard should really still be in OVW. Actually, DSW has the better teams, so a move over there would have done them some good.

Triple H and Shawn Michaels just aren't funny. They are trying too hard, their jokes are something that 12 year olds would be heard rattling off. OK, we get it! A rooster can be called a "cock". A "cock" is also a nickname given to a penis. You didn't need to put it on a shirt. I'm sure the people that originally came up with using "cock" as a slang for penis didn't make that bigger deal about it.

Edge and Randy Orton winning the World Tag Team Championship is good, as people might care about the belts now they're on main eventers, again. The Intercontinental Championship changes are somewhat interesting, but a little redundant. They should bring in Joey Mercury to feud with Johnny Nitro over the Title.

John Cena is not the best thing going for the WWE right now. To paraphrase a line from Scrubs, John Cena's "like the guy who goes to a garage sale, buys a bronze medal without having served, and gets everyone to call him Sarge. And newbie, nobody likes that guy". He moves like a retard in the ring, he's just not charismatic enough to be in the position he currently is. He's feuding with Umaga, who is just a stupid character.

Thank God the WWE still has SmackDown!...
I agree on DX. Man, that's fucking awful how they've beaten the "cock" jokes to death.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:04 PM   #15
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:06 AM   #16
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The problem with Cryme Tyme is that they are awful in the ring. JTG and Shad Gaspard should really still be in OVW. Actually, DSW has the better teams, so a move over there would have done them some good.

Triple H and Shawn Michaels just aren't funny. They are trying too hard, their jokes are something that 12 year olds would be heard rattling off. OK, we get it! A rooster can be called a "cock". A "cock" is also a nickname given to a penis. You didn't need to put it on a shirt. I'm sure the people that originally came up with using "cock" as a slang for penis didn't make that bigger deal about it.

Edge and Randy Orton winning the World Tag Team Championship is good, as people might care about the belts now they're on main eventers, again. The Intercontinental Championship changes are somewhat interesting, but a little redundant. They should bring in Joey Mercury to feud with Johnny Nitro over the Title.

John Cena is not the best thing going for the WWE right now. To paraphrase a line from Scrubs, John Cena's "like the guy who goes to a garage sale, buys a bronze medal without having served, and gets everyone to call him Sarge. And newbie, nobody likes that guy". He moves like a retard in the ring, he's just not charismatic enough to be in the position he currently is. He's feuding with Umaga, who is just a stupid character.

Thank God the WWE still has SmackDown!...
I gatta disagree with you Alieniod SD has been touted as the "B" show for so long now that it does not matter what improvments are made to it.ECW is being prepared to be the new "B" show, to me.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:10 PM   #17
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Honestly, the past 3-4 episodes of RAW weren't the best shows ever, but there are pretty god damn decent. For people to say that "this was the worst RAW show in a long time", just stop fucking watching it and tune in to TNA. Maybe you can help their ratings out so that they can compete with the WWE's brands. Damn, i understand that the WWE COULD do better and COULD push better people but for what they've got right now, they are doing pretty fucking well. There isn't a ROCK, SCSA, or whatnot right now sweeping the wrestling world, so don't expect the same shit you watched during 1997-2000.

Honestly, i think the majority of posters post what they do because others are doing it and feel that they should jump on the bandwagon. There cannot be THAT many Cena haters on TPWW. Face it:

-Orton dropped the ball when he had the title. Maybe he will get another chance, but he dropped it.

-Cena is the best thing the WWE has got right now as a marketable character so if you don't want to watch him, THEN DON'T. He is not THAT bad as some of you rant about. Remember, most of his character now is NOT creative control.

-I don't know about any of you, but DX has been doing some funny shit lately and their promo with Cryme Tyme Monday was CLASSIC. Sure, some stuff is a little immature, but for the most part they have been A-. Speaking of Cryme Tyme, fucking genius.

I'm not ranting, but at the same time i'm just tired of people not even giving these shows a chance at ALL.
When they are promoting a piece of shit no-name "celebrity" sponging off his soon to be ex-wife and has absolutely no experience in the wrestling business and is only there to promote his concerts and his new album against the WWE CHAMPION, then its time to stop giving it a chance.
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:39 PM   #18
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JV - are you crazy? Raw has been fucking piss poor recently. I don't even want to imagine what it would be like this whole year without Cena and Edge.
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^ Didn't even think about how bad it would've been without them two, i mean, their feud wasn't exactly entertaining, but Raw would've looked worse overall without them.
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I watched RAW for the first time in a while and I saw HHH & HBK beating up 1 third of the roster. I mean, most of the people they beat up and buried are jokes but come on.

You have Chris Masters punk out Jerry Lawler to help get him over or whatever, and then the next segment HHH knocks him out cold in less than 5 seconds. Like, what the fuck is the point in having Masters go over a 'legend', only to have him lying unconscious on some toilet seat 5 minutes later??? What a friggin waste of air time.
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I watched RAW for the first time in a while and I saw HHH & HBK beating up 1 third of the roster. I mean, most of the people they beat up and buried are jokes but come on.
Well, Raw's roster is a joke.
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^ That confused me aswell(in reply to Mr. JL). The segment with King just didn't seem to serve any prupose at all other than to waste time.

End the roster split already WWE, you fucking idiots. I'm just going to stop watching wrestling until they do, well actually, i'll watch Smackdown while its good, but i'm going avoid every raw show(aswell as highlight shows) until they start improving in the ratings or end the roster split.
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The last month of Raw has been the worst month that I can remember. I seriously feel like I'm watching WCW Thunder.
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The last month of Raw has been the worst month that I can remember. I seriously feel like I'm watching WCW Thunder.


That's funny... I thought it WAS WCW Thunder.
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I don't know. I think WCW came up with some original stuff. Sure, it sucked, but at least "Viagra on a pole" hadn't run its course ten years ago...
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Vegas, I've been awrestling fan for 20 years. So for me to be losing interest, it hads to be bad. I've beren giving both TNA and WWE a chance every week for years now.

They've run out of chances.
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All the talk about RAW and SmackDown, and no one has even mentioned ECW.

Tells you a LOT about how they are fucking up ECW, now does it?
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All the talk about RAW and SmackDown, and no one has even mentioned ECW.

Tells you a LOT about how they are fucking up ECW, now does it?
Yeah, nobody wants to talk about that trash because it SUCKS.
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Why the hell would anyone want to talk about ECW Velocity?

If it wasn't for Van Dam, I wouldn't even read the TV reports!
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Another thing, i've seen it in the thread, but the roster split between RAW and SD! needs to end. We know why they've done it, but they need to think about the future. It is a good business move if they are REALLY competing, but everyone knows that Vince owns it all so no one will take it seriously. Plus, the WWE currently feels like it doesn't need a reason to bring the highest quality shows. With no real competition, they feel they can do this. This is one reason why i believe the buying of WCW was the worst thing for wrestling.
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Another thing, i've seen it in the thread, but the roster split between RAW and SD! needs to end. We know why they've done it, but they need to think about the future. It is a good business move if they are REALLY competing, but everyone knows that Vince owns it all so no one will take it seriously. Plus, the WWE currently feels like it doesn't need a reason to bring the highest quality shows. With no real competition, they feel they can do this. This is one reason why i believe the buying of WCW was the worst thing for wrestling.
Ending the Roster split doesn't change anything.
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Ending the Roster split doesn't change anything.

In your opinion, that is.
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In your opinion, that is.
If you really feel the need to point this out, you're too retarded to waste a serious response on. In lieu of that...

OMG UR SO DUM IM TEH HED OF WWE TALANT N I NOE WOT IM TALKING ABOT SO STFU ITS FACT!
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Ending the Roster split doesn't change anything.
It can change the quality of the matches and shows. Think about it, RAW hasn't been the same ever since the roster split. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but in the longevity, it reminds me of when the nWo made team A and B. One of them has to remain dominant, while the other may not have as good a chance. I think that if you end the roster split, that itself would bring viewers back to freshen things up and allow the right wrestlers to shine. I mean for god's sake, Cena v. Umaga? Wake me up when the fued is done. There is always a negative factor of "what if" in the WWE today. If Cena gets injured next week, who is going to pick up the slack for RAW as far as a title contending babyface? Whereas if you ended the roster split, there will be more to choose from.

I understand that many people will not get a chance to shine, but that forces those people to 'step their game up'. As far as the traveling, hell, Flair did it, Rock did it, SCSA did it, HOGAN did it. It is a part of the business and people who enter it know this.
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It can change the quality of the matches and shows. Think about it, RAW hasn't been the same ever since the roster split. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but in the longevity, it reminds me of when the nWo made team A and B. One of them has to remain dominant, while the other may not have as good a chance. I think that if you end the roster split, that itself would bring viewers back to freshen things up and allow the right wrestlers to shine. I mean for god's sake, Cena v. Umaga? Wake me up when the fued is done. There is always a negative factor of "what if" in the WWE today. If Cena gets injured next week, who is going to pick up the slack for RAW as far as a title contending babyface? Whereas if you ended the roster split, there will be more to choose from.

I understand that many people will not get a chance to shine, but that forces those people to 'step their game up'. As far as the traveling, hell, Flair did it, Rock did it, SCSA did it, HOGAN did it. It is a part of the business and people who enter it know this.

Wow, someone actually understands where i'm coming from.
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It can change the quality of the matches and shows. Think about it, RAW hasn't been the same ever since the roster split. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but in the longevity, it reminds me of when the nWo made team A and B. One of them has to remain dominant, while the other may not have as good a chance. I think that if you end the roster split, that itself would bring viewers back to freshen things up and allow the right wrestlers to shine. I mean for god's sake, Cena v. Umaga? Wake me up when the fued is done. There is always a negative factor of "what if" in the WWE today. If Cena gets injured next week, who is going to pick up the slack for RAW as far as a title contending babyface? Whereas if you ended the roster split, there will be more to choose from.

I understand that many people will not get a chance to shine, but that forces those people to 'step their game up'. As far as the traveling, hell, Flair did it, Rock did it, SCSA did it, HOGAN did it. It is a part of the business and people who enter it know this.
Except every argument you can make about the roster split is true of the roster unified. I love how you sneak in that , "well, not everyone will give it a chance..." but that's just bullshit. You're basically backing up an unfounded, dishonest (perhaps unintentionally) point of view by trying to pin the blame on the other guy.

Trust me. The same was true for the people who said the roster split was a good idea. They, amazingly, managed to make similar statements to you that SUPPORTED the roster split. Cena/Umaga is not because of a roster issue, it's because WWE is pushing Umaga. We've had talentless fucks and old hasbeens suck up the shows when they were together AND when they were split, so that's a pointless argument. The right wrestlers who will shine? You'll see Cena/Umaga on two shows, because to the WWE, they are the right wrestlers.

Really, all your points are silly and myopic. Like they'd do anything different. We've seen that's not really the case.
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Except every argument you can make about the roster split is true of the roster unified. I love how you sneak in that , "well, not everyone will give it a chance..." but that's just bullshit. You're basically backing up an unfounded, dishonest (perhaps unintentionally) point of view by trying to pin the blame on the other guy.

Trust me. The same was true for the people who said the roster split was a good idea. They, amazingly, managed to make similar statements to you that SUPPORTED the roster split. Cena/Umaga is not because of a roster issue, it's because WWE is pushing Umaga. We've had talentless fucks and old hasbeens suck up the shows when they were together AND when they were split, so that's a pointless argument. The right wrestlers who will shine? You'll see Cena/Umaga on two shows, because to the WWE, they are the right wrestlers.

Really, all your points are silly and myopic. Like they'd do anything different. We've seen that's not really the case.
lol like someone stated before, everyone argument or fact stated against yours is silly, immature, stupid, etc. Instead of bashing people, why not have a civilized debate/discussion. I forgot, this is KK we're talking about lol.

Anyway, other than shove Hulk Hogan, The Rock, or another big name down our throats, i propose that is the right solution for this time. Umaga is being pushed because he is the right wrestler...Yea, for a dull roster. The roster split was thought to be a smart move during that time, but as we can see, that is one reason for the loss of viewers. lol i mean seriously, i think ending the roster split is a legit reason, as i stated above. I am not repeating myself. Seeing as everyone gets mad when you do this, i can't, because all i have to do it look at Chavo Classic's sig
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