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Old 11-17-2006, 06:10 AM   #41
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LOOOOOL. The overbooking and under-writing continues.

God bless Dixie Carter, and God bless Vince Russo.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:14 AM   #42
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The show wasn't mindblowing.

In fact, it seemed a little muddled outside of maybe LAX, the Rhino/Christian feud and the Angle/Joe feud.

that VKM stuff looks like crap, though LOL @ the worked-shoot comments within it. I mean, to go so far just to make a "Vince"-related Angle? The James Gang is just a better name.

I don't think they should fire shots at WWE just yet. Even though Raw is so shitty nowadays.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:18 AM   #43
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That sounds like TERRIBLE booking. I'm glad I didnt watch that crap-fest.

Seriously, booking the #1 contender for an upcoming match against the debut star...what could you possibly be thinking?
And it sounds like the Xdivision championship is becoming the hardcore title in terms of credibility and reign-length.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:20 AM   #44
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as for TNA declaring war on WWE. Looks like they forgot to put ammo in their guns when they made their first attack.
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You are honestly never embarrassed while watching WWE?

C'mon now

also I don't care if you like TNA or not, but let nots make outlandish statements like that ever again.
This was worse.

I went out of my way to try and catch this, and it was as bad as ever, if not worse.
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THANK YOU RUSSO! *clap clap clap*

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I watched it. Now keep in mind I haven't watched a 2 hour or even hr wreslting show in a while.

I thought it was a fun show.

LAX is leagues beyond anything TNA is doing. I thought the 1st segment was rushed wayyy to much. Like it was a segment for Ritalin users. And that's one of my major problems with the production. It's so quick, that you don't have time to take it all in and get into it. But I enjoyed the whole story of them burning the flag and them Williams saving it. Good old wreslting angle.


Chris Sabin: LC's new favorite wreslter (behind the guy with Shelly, but more on him later). I hated Sabin as a generic TNA X-division babyface. He's got a personality now and it works. The new vest, the hair, and the attitude. I like. Good job. Too bad he lost last night though. That was his to win. I don't like how the Title is being thrown around also, but understand what they are doing. They keep making Sabin lose to where he keeps becoming more whiney and pissy. He'll get it next though.

Cage/Rhino: Good match. Nothing less then expected. Cage/AJ is going to be a cool feud.

Nash/Shelly/this awesome guy. Who is this other guy? He's very catchy. These three work very well together. I'm glad they tossed Devine because he was crap.

VKM: I dunno, I always like these shoots and I liked the segment. Be interested to see where they are going.

Angle/Joe/Sting/Abyss: It was ok. I thought they did a few things wrong here though. First, you don't put Angle against the guy challenging for the Title. They didn't need to have Abyss wrestling. He could of done a cool segment fucking up Sting without him wrestling. He's a sadistic guy. It's easy to film a backstage segment with him torturing Sting or something.

I didn't like that Sting came down to save Angle. Angle should not need any saving. Sting should be the one being saved. I did like Joe having Angle in his hold to end it though. The only thing is I hope they have Joe beat Angle at the PPV. With like a "Savage/Steamboat," "Bret/Piper" kind of endings.

Anyway, I think TNA has improved a lot from the past couple of months. It still needs work. Please SLOW DOWN. They are doing a much better job at giving X guys personalities. Young, Sabin, Shelly, new guy with Shelly, and more. I hope they make it to Monday Night soon.

BTW: Where was Robert Roode last night?
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VKM

Gee, what ELSE could that possibly stand for?

(Think Virgil being named after Virgil Runnels, then being named Vincent after you-know-who.)
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The guy with Shelley was "Austin Starr." AKA Austin Aries.
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Is that all VKM is gonna do is cut worked shoot promos on the WWE?!
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That was Austin Aries? Wow, another guy I hated when he was just some old generic X-Division guy doing the same thing as everybody.

I dunno, pure wrestling just turns me away. It's bland to me.
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:02 PM   #53
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I must agree.
Pure wrestling skill is amazing and I think I have a good taste for it. Bret, Benoit, Jericho, Shawn Michaels RVD HHH and Angle are my favorite performers ever, along with Austin and Rock for other reasons. However its the presence of great in ring ability along with great entertainment and characters in the world of the WWE that keeps me watching.
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I flipped back and forth to catch some of this. I couldn't remember anything other than the Cage match, Kurt Angle, and the retarded flag burning thing. I hate Connan. He just annoys me. From what I saw, I guess it could be alright, but there's too many little annoying things that I can't get over. The commentators for one. Abyss sucks. Bashing the WWE, like fuck, worry about your product. In my business we don't go around complaining about the other guys to my customers. And especially the 6 sided ring. The ring makes moves very awkward, you can see guy get whipped into the ropes but have to adjust their path; this occurs in every match.

I dunno, I wouldn't say TNA is any better than before, but it seems like the wrestlers enjoy themselves and boosting the talent with WWE guys is a good thing.
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If WCW was the smart-ass kid that made fun of the popular but stupid kid (WWF) in class, TNA is the weak little puny kid following in the smart-ass kid's footsteps and failing miserably.
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Even if someone totally hates TNA, there's no way IMO they can hate the Eye Spy segments...I don't know who comes up with the material for that, but it's so hilarious.
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I'd love to see DX shoot back on VKM next week. But they'll probably pretend like nothing happened
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Despite all the bitching in this thread (mostly from WWE marks ups, anyhow), tonight's prime time debut was much much better than anything I've seen out of RAW or Smackdown in years.

Great matches, entertaining angles, kept me watching the entire two hours. I didn't have to switch the channel for stupid shit like a Eugene match, a fat ass white guy in a thong, or a ridiculous DX squash extravaganza. I got a GREAT 3-way match between Daniels, Styles and Sabin, an impressive cage match between Christian and Rhino, and I got to see Kurt Angle step into a TNA ring for the first time.

Even if the show itself wasn't perfect, it's setting up so many great angles:

Sabin as a bitchy, cocky heel, having great matches against Daniels and Styles.

LAX being themselves, which is always entertaining.

Raven's new flock coming into their own.

The continuation of Sting's World Title run.

The push of Angle vs. Joe (which I know will go beyond Genesis)

Styles vs. Christian Cage

Petey Williams as a breakout singles face (the Canadian Destroyer is going to get him over with TNA's new, larger audience)



The only thing I really didn't like is the VKM shit, mostly because I feel that the New Age Outlaws are DEAD in the water of history. They only come off as pathetic, not funny, not interesting, not controversial. Pathetic.



Overall, great show and a great start for TNA. I just hope they can secure 2 hours sometime soon.
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I can see them doing something back at the Outlaws, but it would go over half of the audience's head.
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Yeah, those extra two people will really take notice!
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I'd love to see DX shoot back on VKM next week. But they'll probably pretend like nothing happened
They shouldn't have to, but it'd be funny.
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Despite all the bitching in this thread (mostly from WWE marks ups, anyhow), tonight's prime time debut was much much better than anything I've seen out of RAW or Smackdown in years.
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They shouldn't have to, but it'd be funny.
Much as I hate to fellate WWE, the company that's made me personally LOATHE WRESTLING, they don't have to. And they won't, and that's smarter.

Most people are going to see all these shots at WWE for what they're worth: Very little. I mean, a few TNA marks will worship them for doing the only shtick they know how to do--Whine and attack WWE--but most people aren't going to care enough about some half-assed promotion taking shots at WWE, because it looks like sour grapes from bitter would-bes and has-beens.

WWE's in the driver's seat.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:52 AM   #65
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Well, I'm not gonna read this whole thread so someone tell me should I watch the 2 hour TNA Impact! repeat tonight?
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:31 PM   #66
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Is there a repeat tonight?

Because I'll tape it so I can actually see Angle wrestle.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:33 PM   #67
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Yeah, there is and I think I'm gonna watch it.
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If there is a replay you def should tape even if it is just for the Angle match.

It's def worth going out of your way to see.
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Chris Sabin: LC's new favorite wreslter (behind the guy with Shelly, but more on him later). I hated Sabin as a generic TNA X-division babyface. He's got a personality now and it works. The new vest, the hair, and the attitude. I like. Good job. Too bad he lost last night though. That was his to win. I don't like how the Title is being thrown around also, but understand what they are doing. They keep making Sabin lose to where he keeps becoming more whiney and pissy. He'll get it next though.
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I'd love to see DX shoot back on VKM next week. But they'll probably pretend like nothing happened
Naw, if DX shoots on VKM then it's basically giving TNA free advertising on WWE televison. It would set TNA as an actual competitor in the fans eyes. It's exactly what TNA wants. The best course of action for WWE is to act like TNA doesn't even exist like they've been doing.
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If there is a replay you def should tape even if it is just for the Angle match.

It's def worth going out of your way to see.
or the end of the cage match that was the dammdest thing i have seen since big show broke the ring aginst brock.
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