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Old 12-07-2006, 08:45 PM   #41
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I completely agree. Except, once Austin got into the 3:16 Rattlesnake gimmick, he was primarily a brawler. Really anyone who fits that description (with the right amount of charisma, of course) could have pulled the gimmick off.
Yeah true. But even though WWE toned him down wrestling-wise he still gave us more memorable matches than Cena and Batista have combined in their entire careers and they're wrestling to the best of their abilities.
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Old 12-07-2006, 09:29 PM   #42
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Just want to point out that people who say anyone could have been Hogan, Rock, Austin, and etc are wrong.

That is all
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:00 PM   #43
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I completely agree. Except, once Austin got into the 3:16 Rattlesnake gimmick, he was primarily a brawler. Really anyone who fits that description (with the right amount of charisma, of course) could have pulled the gimmick off.
But the Charisma thing is a rather huge element. Not anyone could pull it off; not even a tenth of the wrestlers who could ffit the description could come close to pulling it off.

Even Hogan, who I hate, has this sick level of charisma. He's got that rock star thing going. I'm not saying he's irreplacable, but the same could be said for Vince.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:11 PM   #44
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KK is right, you have to have the star quality, the charisma, the intangibles to make the difference between stardom and 'superstardom'. That falls back on the wrestler himself... Vince McMahon can create characters but he can't install them with the neccessary charisma.

And those who say Austin became a brawler in order to play the 'Stone Cold' character... he had no choice in the matter, he broke his neck. He adapted his style, and it just so happened that his new brawling style struck a chord with the masses at exactly the right time. There's no telling if Austin would have been quite as popular had he continued with the pure wrestling he was famous for from 1990-1997.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:25 PM   #45
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No, it didn't.

What got Stargate Cancelled was the Sci Fi network. There was no "This show for that show," no "You have to get rid of Stargate or we take our lackluster ratings elsewhere!" IT was a business decision to take off the air.
Yeah that was more of a joke on the coincedence of it, and how lots of SG-1 fans pin ECW as the reason for its cancellation over on another board I hover around.

There are DVD movies to come though LoDown.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:30 PM   #46
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And those who say Austin became a brawler in order to play the 'Stone Cold' character... he had no choice in the matter, he broke his neck. He adapted his style, and it just so happened that his new brawling style struck a chord with the masses at exactly the right time. There's no telling if Austin would have been quite as popular had he continued with the pure wrestling he was famous for from 1990-1997.
I'm completely aware of this, but even though he was forced into it, it was a huge part of the character. I could not see someone in the Stone Cold character putting on Benoit-Angle classics, no matter how great they truly were (and Austin was indeed a hell of a wrestler). In example, the Hart/Austin match from Mania 13. They could have put on a technical spectacle, I'm sure, but the match itself (one of the very big key moments in the Stone Cold character) wouldn't have had as much "oomph", if you will, had it been technical. It needed to be brutal.

As for KK's comment, okay, the men who played the characters did have the amount of charisma needed, but without Vince's ideas, the characters never would have came to light in the first place. He could have slapped the character on anyone, and sure, most people couldn't have pulled it off and may have failed, but I'm sure there are at least a handful who could have done it just as well.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:40 PM   #47
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Didn't Austin and Angle have a 'wrestling' match during their feud. The one where Austin took 10 German Suplexe's in a row?
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:42 PM   #48
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Yeah that was more of a joke on the coincedence of it, and how lots of SG-1 fans pin ECW as the reason for its cancellation over on another board I hover around.

There are DVD movies to come though LoDown.
Honestly, people who think that aren't paying enough attention. Or maybe they're fucking stupid. Stargate SG-1 has two upcoming movies, a spinoff planned (It just won't be the Stargate everyone knows), and one spinnoff still on the air.

In other words, there's still going to be like 2 hours of stargate tuff on TV every week, so I don't see how anyone could blame ECW. Sci Fi doesn't want to pay for new episodes, when the actors are asking so much. In other words, ECW didn't kill Stargate, cheap ass executives killed stargate
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:44 PM   #49
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Didn't Austin and Angle have a 'wrestling' match during their feud. The one where Austin took 10 German Suplexe's in a row?
That was at the point that the Stone Cold character was a shell of it's former self and I suppose they were either trying to reinvent it or just throwing whatever the fuck they had into the ring ideas-wise.

I'd say right before the alliance angle the character had started to crumble, and then it just imploded on itself. WHAT? And blew up and out. WHAT? 3 beers. WHAT? 4 beers. WHAT? 5 beers...
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You know, besides gay, cause wrestling's gay and all...
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Didn't Austin and Angle have a 'wrestling' match during their feud. The one where Austin took 10 German Suplexe's in a row?
Yes. And I was impressed by his ability. I'm not saying he was a great teechnical wrestler, but he was able to pull it off...

I just wouldn't expect him to do that often...You know, with a broken freakin' ne...Oh.
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Yes. And I was impressed by his ability. I'm not saying he was a great teechnical wrestler, but he was able to pull it off...

I just wouldn't expect him to do that often...You know, with a broken freakin' ne...Oh.
He did it... For the Smarks.
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