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Old 12-21-2006, 02:17 AM   #41
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This is why I love Edge so much. You stand up for your profession, man!
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:19 AM   #42
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*neither.

Also, I am firmly in support of the "Edge is the man" theory.
Damn I havent been spelling neither right for like 3 years then
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:47 AM   #43
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Edge is da man.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:47 AM   #44
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So anyone got a video of it or summit?
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:36 AM   #45
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Edge isn't an idiot. It's not like he pulled an Andrew dice clay, shes an ingorant ditzy newcaster and he made her look like an idiot sort of.

And to a certain extent, some of the media has accepted wrestling as "realER" since all of Mick Foley and WWE's exploits.

How would a guy like Edge not take offense? Like the industry of wrestling is any more fake than the media and CNN's...
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:45 AM   #46
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the media still looks at wrestling as a sideshow circus not worthy of merit but of mockery and scrutiny.
I can't help but wonder why anyone might have that opinion.

*cough*http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...assionoftheass*cough*

Yessir, no idea at all.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:35 PM   #47
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LOL @ people still mad at the chick. Seriously, is wrestling fake? Yes or no?
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:43 PM   #48
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No. It's scripted. I'd say that there's a huge difference.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:46 PM   #49
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Not in eyes of the media which is why she made that comment. Edge could've showed her clips of his surgery, Benoit's scar, HHH's quad X-rays, Mick Foley's body, and even Eddie Guerrero's autopsy reports and corpse. It doesn't matter because no one takes it seriously. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A RIGGED SPORT!!!
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And how exactly DID Edge get that broken neck? Did one of his opponents seriously go after it with malicious intent? Did someone twist it on purpose? Did he get smacked with a hammer for real? Or was it an 'over time' thing that happened while working in an industry that dictates you be sure not to hurt each other because of the script?
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:03 PM   #51
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Not in eyes of the media which is why she made that comment. Edge could've showed her clips of his surgery, Benoit's scar, HHH's quad X-rays, Mick Foley's body, and even Eddie Guerrero's autopsy reports and corpse. It doesn't matter because no one takes it seriously. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A RIGGED SPORT!!!

So is Boxing, what's your point?
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:07 PM   #52
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That doesn't even make sense. What does that have to do with anything?
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:23 PM   #53
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This:





Seriously, Boxing is just as rigged as Wrestling. People get hurt in Boxing all the time, the only difference being: Boxing is seen as (Somewhat) respectable, despite being dishonest about it's rigged nature.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:24 PM   #54
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It's more acceptable because it's not a circus.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:25 PM   #55
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Well, maybe without Tyson, but....
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:26 PM   #56
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if Kurt Angle or Benoit said the same thing, there would be no arguement about who is in the right or wrong.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:27 PM   #57
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Actually, yeah, because the point still stands that wrestling is fake.
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I'm guessing the reporter didn't want to do the interview so that was her subtle way at getting back at whoever made her do it.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:30 PM   #59
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Actually, yeah, because the point still stands that wrestling is fake.
Yeah that's why when someone gets injured on the set of movie no one cares...becuase it's fake...
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:32 PM   #60
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It is fake. The accident is real enough but hurting themselves isn't what they're setting out to accomplish.
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The media is faker than wrestling. Seriously, watch the news sometime. They're phonier than wrestlers. And they don't take chairshots.

Its not about him defending whether its real compettition or not. He's not trying to say it's not scripted. It's about what she implied. The way she said "we all know that wrestling is fake.." and it came off as very snobby and ignorant.
He took it the way I did when I read it, she doesnt know what shes talking about and it comes as an insult to a guy like him or anyone who knows the business to say it like that. Nobodys saying its "real", its just the connotation she was using when she called it "fake. And please don't say thats not what she was implying because you know as well as I do what her sentiments were towards it.

After all, they were on Showbiz Tonight. They weren't going on Sportscenter talking about it. So with that enough is said about the industry. She made an ignorant comment and Edge took offense.
He didn't fly off the collar, he just defended what him and his colleigues do for a living, and people who actually know the facts. He did so with a subtle, sarcastic comment and it was low key and not out-of line. Seriously Mick Foley and others have done it and I feel its just. How does he look like an idiot?
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:55 PM   #63
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I'm not saying he looked stupid. It just wasn't necessary because what's the point? If the chick hadn't realized the rigors of the business up until that point, why would a sly remark from Edge change that?
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Well what was the point of her bringing it up in the first palce?

I mean if someone offended you in some way, would you just sit back and not even comment to the person about it?
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I'm not saying he looked stupid. It just wasn't necessary because what's the point? If the chick hadn't realized the rigors of the business up until that point, why would a sly remark from Edge change that?
Doesn't mean he still shouldn't say anything. I know its not the same thing, but if an old ignorant biggot makes a racist comment do you not say anything? Because no remarks gonna change that either. He took a stand and said something on principle and because he took offense, rightfully so. I also think he reacted in a good manner. What he said was subtle, witty but effective. I'm sure she picked up on it, she probably even felt embarassed.
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Doesn't mean he still shouldn't say anything. I know its not the same thing, but if an old ignorant biggot makes a racist comment do you not say anything? Because no remarks gonna change that either. He took a stand and said something on principle and because he took offense, rightfully so. I also think he reacted in a good manner. What he said was subtle, witty but effective. I'm sure she picked up on it, she probably even felt embarassed.
There's a world of difference between a racist comment and making an uneducated comment on someones profession, which was essentially correct.
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Fixed.

This is not the way to "get back at" or "stand up to" the media. This is the equivalent of Funky trying to dissolve the black stereotype of a thug by screaming on camera waving a gun and slapping his "ho."
That comparison is crap. What did you want him to say to her?

"No ma'am, it isn't fake."
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I said I know its the not the same thing, but I was drawing the analogy of her 'not changing regardless of whats said to her' to a type of person who doesnt change regardless of whats said to them. You got the analogy. It was about the idea of principle involving both. An analogy, not a pound for pound comparison so please. I wasn't comparing her comments to a racists comments directly...obviously.
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I'm not saying he looked stupid. It just wasn't necessary because what's the point? If the chick hadn't realized the rigors of the business up until that point, why would a sly remark from Edge change that?
It's not about changing that particular chick's mind. It's about defending yourself against an untruth. Just because wrestling is scripted doesn't mean that it's fake. They still have to bust their asses in the ring every week of the year, and their injuries aren't fake. Just because they aren't inflicted purposefully doesn't mean a man's neck is any less broken.
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Yeah, I started watching when I was about four, and it took me about three years to figure out that it was fake. Not sure what the exact moment was.
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Weren't you the person who assumed Triple H was taking shots at John Cena, when he said Kurt Angle wasn't getting the heel responses he was meant to?
I don't recall this. Can you back it up?
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And ask yourself "Did the woman really need to include the 'we all know wrestling is fake comment'?" She could've easily said "So Edge, what was it like being in Iraq?"

She didn't, she just had to make the snide mark of "We all know wrestling is fake and what's going on in Iraq is real." If this was already commonly know, then why even mention it?

Edge could've reacted in three ways.

1. Spazzed out and make him and the company look even worse than they already are.

2. Said nothing and make himself look like a joke by letting her say that kind of remark.

3. Replied to her comment in a calm, rationale tone.

He did #3, which is what any normal person would do in his position. If you are being interviewed on live television and the person interviewing you makes an offensive statement, you're not going to just sit there and not say anything back.

And anyone who has ever been in the wrestling industry takes offense to the word "fake." I think The One, Dave, or anyone else who has ever did any kind of wrestling training would back me up on.

It's not about denying the inner workings of the industry (although some people still do), it's about the hard work, pain, dedication, sacrifice, etc. that the wrestlers go through to get where they are.

Fake implys that everything that happens in that ring is painless and everyone goes home perfectly fine. Which obviously is not the case for the most part, that's why wrestlers take offense to people calling wrestling fake.
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People think there is absolutely no risk involved in professional wrestling. "Smoke and mirrors", if you will. It's this kind of mentality Edge was obviously trying to deflect, and I doubt he would have done it if she hadn't come off like an uneducated bitch.
LOL. Once again. Yeah, you come off as overly defensive about wrestling. I wonder why. So much so that there's this phantom world of people who think nobody ever gets hurt in wrestling.

Next thing you'll tell me is that people still think wrestling is real...


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You make assumptions all the time. Don't call someone out because they do. Remember when you thought The Miz was a babyface?
Wow. If your previous assertion about me is as out of context as this one, you're just lying to defend Edge.

You don't need to see the segment to read the title of the article "Edge gets offended". Hmm, sounds like he took offence to something the woman said. If she offended him, we are probably right to make the inference she came off either condescending or ignorant.

Of course, the legitimacy of the article is disputable. No DQ? Hmm.[/quote]
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Edge isn't an idiot. It's not like he pulled an Andrew dice clay, shes an ingorant ditzy newcaster and he made her look like an idiot sort of.
I'm still missing hwow she's ignorant, and how he made her look like an idiot. Do you think anyone outside the wrestling fanbase is actually going AW SNAP?

If so, take your meds, the schizophrenia is acting up again.
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Weapon X said 'fake' and then 'scripted', it's clear that he meant scripted. Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that an ignorant newsreader did the same?

How would have JBL handled that, probably chuckled at her and said something constructive to make her understand. Edge isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, and unfortunately missed a good oppotunity.
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Not in eyes of the media which is why she made that comment. Edge could've showed her clips of his surgery, Benoit's scar, HHH's quad X-rays, Mick Foley's body, and even Eddie Guerrero's autopsy reports and corpse. It doesn't matter because no one takes it seriously. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A RIGGED SPORT!!!
And that's the end result. Who looks bad? The guy defending a fake sport, or the "ignorant" woman who calls it fake, a convention every non-smark agrees to?
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Nobody outside of the fanbase is going AW Snap. Nobody's doing anything. Thats half of the reason why you're wrong when you say Edge made himself look stupid. He didn't look stupid in the situation, he reacted well...and nobody think he looked stupid, not even anyone else on here.
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