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Old 03-25-2007, 06:01 PM   #41
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I'm not sure which one I liked better. The first was more consistent, but what I liked about the second was significantly better than the first. Though the second dragged at points, and the ending pissed me off to no end (We're not in the thirties, I didn't pay a nickel, and this isn't a serial).
I'm a real sucker for character development. That's why for me originals almost always win over sequels. Sequels tend to be about action, leaving little in new character development. 'We're supposed to know all about them already....' mantra seems to prevail.
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:02 PM   #42
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The whole second movie pissed me off, it wasn't hardly entertaining at all, the classic my girl is in trouble I must save here at all costs, died in the fifties, then it was on to Jones' heart, what the fuck does it do? and why is Jones' a fucking mindflayer, and why is the Flying Dutchmen crewed by fucking merfolk, and I know im on a rant, but just wait, just wait.


WHY THE FUCK IS BARBOSSA STILL ALIVE?
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:05 PM   #43
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Did you hear that there's a third movie coming out?

I would expect some explanations there.
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:06 PM   #44
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:58 PM   #45
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I'm a real sucker for character development. That's why for me originals almost always win over sequels. Sequels tend to be about action, leaving little in new character development. 'We're supposed to know all about them already....' mantra seems to prevail.
They spent a lot of time on character development in the second though, and establishing the world. Both of which are very similar, and both of which left the movie to drag in many places.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:00 PM   #46
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The whole second movie pissed me off, it wasn't hardly entertaining at all, the classic my girl is in trouble I must save here at all costs, died in the fifties, then it was on to Jones' heart, what the fuck does it do? and why is Jones' a fucking mindflayer, and why is the Flying Dutchmen crewed by fucking merfolk, and I know im on a rant, but just wait, just wait.


WHY THE FUCK IS BARBOSSA STILL ALIVE?
Dude, put the D&D book down before criticising a movie for a clichéd plot and oddities that don't fit.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:23 PM   #47
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The whole second movie pissed me off, it wasn't hardly entertaining at all, the classic my girl is in trouble I must save here at all costs, died in the fifties, then it was on to Jones' heart, what the fuck does it do? and why is Jones' a fucking mindflayer, and why is the Flying Dutchmen crewed by fucking merfolk, and I know im on a rant, but just wait, just wait.


WHY THE FUCK IS BARBOSSA STILL ALIVE?

did you watch the movie? or did you watch it with earmuffs on and a blindfold?

Jones' heart was explained....the flying dutchman being crewed by merfolk was explained...what the f is a mindflayer?

and you make it sound like Elizabeth was a damsein in distress...she got out of prison, made her own way to Tortuga to find Jack...stole the letters of marque by gunpoint by herself...handled herself quite well in a swordfight, and f'd over Jack.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:33 PM   #48
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A mindflayer is a creater from Dungeons and Dragons.

They have like 8 tentacles around a mouth. They eat brains.

Something like that....
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:36 PM   #49
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A mindflayer is a creater from Dungeons and Dragons.

They have like 8 tentacles around a mouth. They eat brains.

Something like that....

ah, thanks.

well the rest of my comment still stands
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:06 PM   #50
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Well, you're wrong. He obviously meant Will Turner was the Damsel in distress.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:07 PM   #51
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Naw, not really. I just like to have fun with the people who seem to have nothing better to do than say "what? I don't understand plot elements that were explained in the movie! Plot hooks? Cloffhangers? What now?"
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:46 PM   #52
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Yeah, going to watch this right now.

I'll let you all know.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:33 PM   #53
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Its not that Elizabeth was in distress, Its that Turner's character made it seem like she was and had to save her at all costs.

I did watch and Jones' heart and what it did still didn't make much sense, so could someone explain.

Mindflayers more or less look exactly like Jones'
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:39 PM   #54
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The whole second movie pissed me off, it wasn't hardly entertaining at all, the classic my girl is in trouble I must save here at all costs, died in the fifties, then it was on to Jones' heart, what the fuck does it do? and why is Jones' a fucking mindflayer, and why is the Flying Dutchmen crewed by fucking merfolk, and I know im on a rant, but just wait, just wait.


WHY THE FUCK IS BARBOSSA STILL ALIVE?
You realize this is a fantasy movie, right?
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:41 PM   #55
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Yes I Do Mike, I just disliked the movie and its plot.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:17 AM   #56
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You realize this is a fantasy movie, right?
I suppose, they just took a direction with it for the second movie that was much more outlandish than the first. I thought that was fine, but it did piss me off a bit that they're trying to make something epic out of what was a good stand alone movie.
Pirates is good, but I'm just not excited for a third installment already. I'm sick of the whole thing since the second came out a year ago and has been all over the place ever since. Overkill.
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Pirates 2 was a tad on the ehh side. It dragged at times. It had it's strong points and it's weak points, like most movies I suppose. I wouldn't say I hate it or that it's bad. I just didn't like it nearly as much as the first, but it was okay. I saw it twice in theaters (with friends and with my neice and nephew), and actually own it on dvd but have never gotten around to watching it another time since the theater. Maybe I'll check it out before I go see World's End...maybe.
I must say, the third does look much better

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That scene at the end of part two where Keira Knightley locked Jack to the boat and kissed him and shit, made my cock move.

But yah i love the whole Jack Sparrow/ Knightleys charachter storyline.



Loved the first two movies and this one looks absolutely amazing i cant wait.
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Better than the second movie, worse than the first.

Its extremely overbloated and 20 or 30 minutes could've easily been trimmed from it.

But it does have some enjoyable moments.

*SPOILERS*

I called Will Turner ending up as the new Captain of the Flying Dutchman about an hour and a half in.

I was really wondering how it pulled off an PG-13 Rating, too.

Anyways, it's pretty much more of the same as the other two.
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I suppose, they just took a direction with it for the second movie that was much more outlandish than the first.
Really...How?
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Anyways, it's pretty much more of the same as the other two.
Well that's all I'm really asking for. Sounds good to me.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:24 AM   #62
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about catching the new Harry Potter movie, but I'm worried it might be much more outlandish than the first few. Any advice?
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WHY THE FUCK IS BARBOSSA STILL ALIVE?
Must I remind you that Jack died in the 2nd one...and obviously he is around in this one...Might someone else of done the same thing to bring Barbossa back that they are doing to get Jack back?
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I have a weird feeling Jack didn't actually die...
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I have a weird feeling Jack didn't actually die...
I dont think he actually died...He gets stuck in Davy Jones' Locker
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about catching the new Harry Potter movie, but I'm worried it might be much more outlandish than the first few. Any advice?
Dead Man's chest without a doubt took the series an entirely new direction. The first was big with fantasy elements, but nothing like DMC. And just looking at the new one, I mean they're sailing on sand and to the end of some flat earth waterfall. I haven't seen it yet so I can't really judge it fully, but it's a new direction with these sequels.

The first movie was a fantasy storyline about a pirate curse and a ghost ship, set with real humans in the real world during the British Emprie. It was a pirate movie. The second is of course a pirate movie, and deals with a lot of the same characters but it takes a new direction. Non-humans are introduced, sea monsters, witch doctors, and huge fantasy elements like sailing to the ends of the earth to rescue someone who was swallowed whole and killed, yet preserved through some supernatural trickery or portal into a netherworld.
That's fine, I'm not faulting it. But the first was a fantasy story about Pirates set in the real world. The second and third seem to be set in an elaborate fantasy world altogether, like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. Whereas the first was a tall tale set in a real world, kinda like..Indiana Jones, or Terminator.
I just think it's obvious that they had no intentions for it to be as big as it was and when it was, they took the Star Wars approach and enhanced their direction and world.
Harry Potter was out there from the get go, and stays within that.

I'm not calling this a real flaw really, it's just an observation and I didn't really like it personally. I found Pirates 2 to be mediocre. I thought it often dragged, was more ambitious than it was able to pull off. I also thought at times it was a self parody or imitation with some of the things they did, especially with Sparrow. It was like they were trying to emulate what was cool about the first so hard, that it actually became forced.

Now I know you're all gung ho about POTC and Sparrow and you're amped for this movie, and that's fine. I understand that and don't expect you to change your mind. I want to see it too. This is just my opinion on the series taking a turn for the mediocre after a pretty decent first intallment, and I know I'm not alone out there. It certainly changed, for better or for worse.
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Great. We have sea monsters instead of zombies. Completely different direction.
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It did.

Bit of a sad ending kinda though.

The end fight was fucking immense.
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I have a weird feeling Jack didn't actually die...
See I had that same feeling also...

but in the trailer he makes that line about the four of them trying to kill him...and one of them succeding....

That makes me believe that he did die....but hell I have no clue...Im checking it out tonight at the 8pm showing...and already got tickets to take family tomorrow to it.
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Saw it last night. It's alright... drags a bit here and there - no where near as draggy as Spiderman 3 and theres a huge send off fight scene, but it's not anywhere near spectacular.
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See I had that same feeling also...

but in the trailer he makes that line about the four of them trying to kill him...and one of them succeding....

That makes me believe that he did die....but hell I have no clue...Im checking it out tonight at the 8pm showing...and already got tickets to take family tomorrow to it.
I haven't seen it yet, but you don't have to take the phrase "succeeded" literally.
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I haven't seen it yet, but you don't have to take the phrase "succeeded" literally.
Oh I know...I was just saying...

anyways...Saw it a few minutes ago....It was an alright movie. I was more impressed with the first two than I was with this one. The fights were pretty good and the music was great just like the first two movies. I was a little angry at a few things they did....but sadly the one big thing in the movie that would of been shocking for me wasnt because it was given away basically in the 2nd movie.

I wish they would of stuck this with the 2nd movie because that would of been great.

I like how they leave a little tidbit in there about possibly a 4th one...

And YES...for those wondering...There is a scene after the credits just like the other two films...
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Depp has repeatedly said he'd like to do at least two more.
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Yea...I heard Depp say he would love to do more...

also heard that both Bloom and Knightly wouldnt like to do one again...

Spoilers (highlight of course)
and with the way the movie ends...and after the credits showing that Knightly and Bloom have a child 10 years later, I guess its safe to say that they wont be here for the 4th one and that their story is complete. Perhaps the next one will be about the "Fountain of Youth" like they hinted...and it will be both Sparrow and Barbossa in the movie...
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saw it last night and loved it. more than the second one easily.

alot more of a fantasy film, but that didnt matter to me.

the 3rd act feels so epic in its battle and glad to have Barbossa back. Dont really want to spoil anything, Ill just say that the 3 hours flew by and I loved it.
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Yea...I heard Depp say he would love to do more...

also heard that both Bloom and Knightly wouldnt like to do one again...

Spoilers (highlight of course)
and with the way the movie ends...and after the credits showing that Knightly and Bloom have a child 10 years later, I guess its safe to say that they wont be here for the 4th one and that their story is complete. Perhaps the next one will be about the "Fountain of Youth" like they hinted...and it will be both Sparrow and Barbossa in the movie...
I agree with your spoilers and def would not mind seeing that
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Barbossa was the shit in that movie...him and Jones are two of the best things in the movie...
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