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Old 04-11-2007, 08:43 AM   #41
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:08 AM   #42
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:21 AM   #43
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It actually stands for his name Randy Keith Orton.

But yeah I'm huge HBk mark, but this Bret Hart bashing in the recent weeks is getting ridiclious. I don't even have a clue where it came from it's not like Bret Hart made any comment recently that would bring this on him.
It's because there was a thread dedicated to real life fueds.

And oddly, I agree with everything in this thread ... except for the Bret Hart comment.

Yeah, he was a good wrestler, but he was never money on the mic, and just frankly, I think he's overrated. (Not to say he didn't have some fantastic matches. Hart/Perfect was fucking brilliant. Stone Cold/Bret was great.)

Oh, and I think all of this Bret Hart sentiment might come from the fact that this took place TEN YEARS AGO, and I would dare to bet that there were alot of people posting here that were still marks back then and had not made the unfortunate transition to smark. (I came to that conclusion after reading a couple of different posts, not on the Hitman, but on other superstars whom people had only seen in WWE, and knew nothing about beforehand) Or, there are alot of people posting now that have no idea what possibly (Not saying they 'would' have) losing the WWF title to WCW would have done to the company at that point. Forget the fucking HBK/Bret feud. (But don't forget Bret's logic for not wanting to lose the title in Canada. That's bullshit.)

Vince was a fucking asshole about it yes, but I don't blame him.

Yes, I had a pair of Hitman shades too.

There, neg rep me.

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:30 PM   #44
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I had a lot of respect for Bret Hart, but since 97 he has been a dick.
The screw job could have been the best thing to happen to WCW. They had the champion that the WWF couldn't beat. The champion that the WWF had the screw. It was a great set up.
But no, he didn't want to lose the title in front of his "countrymen." He was in Montreal. That's like saying Bob Backlund shouldn't have dropped the title in New York because it's his home country.

Moving on, there's the death of Owen Hart. A huge loss for the wrestling world, but more so for the Hart family. It was a tragic accident that should have never happened.
And Bret Hart had the class to use that as a soap box to bash the WWF again. Fucking Classy.

Down the line a little more Bret Hart gets into the hall of fame. Looks like there is some water under the bridge, but not all of it. While it's true that Bret Hart never said he was going to be at WrestleMania the following day it's to be expected.
Now his feelings about HBK aside I feel he owed it to his fans to go out there with every one else that year. Please, don't tell me that he didn't owe it to the fans. If it wasn't for the fans no wrestler would be anywhere today.

Let’s go back to the subject of Owen Hart… Bret was bitching about Owen not going into the hall of fame. When Owen Hart passed away he was my favorite wrestler. As much as I liked Owen Hart he's not Hall of Fame worthy. He was a great wrestler, and a good person who was taken away too soon. However, just because someone passed away at a young age doesn't mean they belong in the Hall of Fame.
Just because his last name is Hart doesn’t mean he should go in. All Bret wants is for the Hart family name to live on and we all know you can’t put that burden Teddy. The Hart Family is a thing of the past.

There, I said it.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:42 PM   #46
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:29 PM   #48
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #49
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:51 PM   #50
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I had a lot of respect for Bret Hart, but since 97 he has been a dick.
The screw job could have been the best thing to happen to WCW. They had the champion that the WWF couldn't beat. The champion that the WWF had the screw. It was a great set up.
But no, he didn't want to lose the title in front of his "countrymen." He was in Montreal. That's like saying Bob Backlund shouldn't have dropped the title in New York because it's his home country.

Moving on, there's the death of Owen Hart. A huge loss for the wrestling world, but more so for the Hart family. It was a tragic accident that should have never happened.
And Bret Hart had the class to use that as a soap box to bash the WWF again. Fucking Classy.

Down the line a little more Bret Hart gets into the hall of fame. Looks like there is some water under the bridge, but not all of it. While it's true that Bret Hart never said he was going to be at WrestleMania the following day it's to be expected.
Now his feelings about HBK aside I feel he owed it to his fans to go out there with every one else that year. Please, don't tell me that he didn't owe it to the fans. If it wasn't for the fans no wrestler would be anywhere today.

Let’s go back to the subject of Owen Hart… Bret was bitching about Owen not going into the hall of fame. When Owen Hart passed away he was my favorite wrestler. As much as I liked Owen Hart he's not Hall of Fame worthy. He was a great wrestler, and a good person who was taken away too soon. However, just because someone passed away at a young age doesn't mean they belong in the Hall of Fame.
Just because his last name is Hart doesn’t mean he should go in. All Bret wants is for the Hart family name to live on and we all know you can’t put that burden Teddy. The Hart Family is a thing of the past.

There, I said it.
When has Bret ever bitched about Owen not being in a HOF?

Also, what does class have to do with Bret wanting real legit answers to his bros death? Not to mention they shovelled Owen off and then continued on with the show for the cash. Had Shane taken that fall, you think Vince allows the show to go on? Fuck no. That lacked class, if anything, and I can see why that would anger anyone, certainly Bret.

BTW, The Hart family name is hardly fading. Just look at how revered Bret still is. Not to mention the fact his neohews and niece, among other members linked to the family are gaining rise and signing on with the big time company.

WWE will be much more interesting once The next gen of Harts are owning all those other bitches.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:00 PM   #51
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That will be interesting, if it ever happens.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:02 PM   #52
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How many next-gen Harts are there? That shitface Teddy and Natalie, that's all I know about.

Let's face it, Teddy will probably be stuck in the cruiserweight division, and we all know that's pretty much death, and we all know what WWE cares about when it comes to the women.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:05 PM   #53
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Harry, TJ and some others.

Harry has the size Vince likes, but he's skiled, which is something Vince doesnt normally get with his bigger guys.
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So, even by your own admittance, they won't be "owning" anyone in WWE besides maybe Harry? And that's a HUGE if, as he'll probably be put in the exact same gimmick as his father and be shit on by the old school fans saying how he doesn't deserve the Bulldog gimmick.
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Plus there is the fact that they are Harts. We all know they only pushes they get in WWE is from the ceiling...o, too soon?
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Are you with us or against us? This is war man! This shit is real niggaish gangster shit. We bout to break out into internation warfare over The Kliq against...uh....whatever half ass, not really collective, kind of half built stables there are. But it doesn't matter cause we're Kliq For LIFE!

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With that said though, there is no belt in the industry that HBK could win that would add to his career. HBK's career is built around him being HBK, not winning a bunch of titles.
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Where is Avenger in the TPWW Kliq?!?!?!

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You know you're always welcome with me. We really ran out of Kliq people (hell we resorted to using Justin Credible and Earl Hebner are members) so it won't be offical or anything, but I'll make sure you don't have to e-job to some Hart Marktard or anything.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:14 PM   #65
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My markdom for HBK is so great that I'm not even going to join your group.

You are all a disgrace to HBK, and if I was gay I'd start my own stable, but alas I am not.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:20 PM   #66
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Oh whatever legend. This entire Kliq thing, I started it. I was bored, I was noticing that in the recent Clique/Harts posting that these guys had been siding with my side. Plus, for whatever it's worth, the guys in the Kliq are my closest TPWW "friends" so it was all a joke. Others took it too seriously, and now we have 23 little stables running around. Let me just state this, The TPWW Kliq is just that. It's a click of TPWW posters. There is no war. There is no E-Showdowns happening. Get over it, and a quick side note: no one asked you to be a part. Go feel left out elsewhere.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:28 PM   #67
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Sure you guys are close to the top right now, but thats as far as you can go with your current group. You guys are solid, but see if you had me you would be contenders. You would be in the upper echlon with me in the group.

but yes Tovo I have noticed you carry way too much power in the wrestling forum. In fact I bet if you suddenly turned on the Klique and started being a Bret fan then probably like most people would then follow you.

In fact you are TPWW's own David Koresh.
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but yes Tovo I have noticed you carry way too much power in the wrestling forum. In fact I bet if you suddenly turned on the Klique and started being a Bret fan then probably like most people would then follow you.
If that were true, everyone wouldn't hate Billy Gunn now would they. Is it so impossible that a lot of people just on their own decided they didn't like Hart?
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Are you with us or against us? This is war man! This shit is real niggaish gangster shit. We bout to break out into internation warfare over The Kliq against...uh....whatever half ass, not really collective, kind of half built stables there are. But it doesn't matter cause we're Kliq For LIFE!

Yeah, we got spazzy about two days ago. It's what happens when Cena is Champ for too long, we start talking about feuds that are ten years old.

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Well Yes Tovo it may not be impossible, but it's kinda interesting especially since it was always more to Bret's side, but still there were a good amount of HBk supporters, but the gap to me seemed like it was closing since HBK still fresh in our minds and putting out great performances. It seemed the liked closed even more after you said your thoughts.

In fact I would say it was 60/40 in favor of Bret, but right now it kinda looks like its 65/35 in favor of HBK.

Some people have always sided against Bret.. BDC and Avenger, who would be a two of your members who always went against Bret

Now Steele has been against Bret for sometime now, but he did use to have a bow down to Bret Hart picture in his sig. So I find his situation intersting, and I would like to hear more about why he changed his mind on Bret. From going to worshipping him to where he's at it now. I guess it's becasuse he thinks Bret Hart is bitter and what not as he stated above.

Still the whole Bret Hart Whiny Penis or cunt as he is referred to in this thread still boggles my mind. Since you know Bret's boss did break their contract and Bret completly trusted Vince almost like a Father in fact, and Bret busted his ass for the company for years and years so that had to be a terrible feeling for the Hitman.

Then a few years later his brother died when he was doing a stupid gimmick that he should not have been doing in the first place.

Now see if any of that stuff happend to me I would be bitter about it for a pretty long time. So really if there is anyone who deserves to be bitter, and I don't even think he's that bitter anyway anymore it's Bret Hart.

Also I respect that Bret still doesn't really want to work with the WWE that much. I find it refreshing in this day and age when people usually only do things for money that someone would actually stick to what they think is right.

So I end with saying Bret Hart is a great role model and I wish I could be more like him.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:07 PM   #73
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I have stated IN THIS THREAD that Bret Hart is a great wrestler, but HBK is superior. Also, in that old sig there were a lot more people to bow down to other than just bret hart.
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If I have done anything to swey people's minds, it's present the truth without the Dave Meltzer filter. Honestly, most people's opinion of Hart is directly related to Meltzer's opinion of him. For whatever reason internet marks have always fallowed Davey in anything. I never did. Always thought he was an annoying cunt with a big ego and a sense of accomplishment, which he deserves none of. Now let's be fair, in the past week or so, I have done VERY little discussing Shawn's numerous short comings, because let's face it, he was a very reputable jackass in the mid 90's, but Bret was a very reputable whinny bitch in the mid 90's. I guess once people were presented something other than the words of Meltzer they decided they prefered an asshole to a pussy (no Tovo is gay jokes, just using metaphore). I happen to agree with that. I don't think I weild any kind of power over people's opinions, I think that I've been around TPWW long enough that people take the time and give me the e-respect to actually read what I say, but it's not like I give the word and people bow down to it. If anything, I think a lot of people might also have similar opinions, but due to the IWC's history of lashing out against people with different opinions they chose not to speak out until someone else came along and shouted it for everyone to hear.
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I have stated IN THIS THREAD that Bret Hart is a great wrestler, but HBK is superior. Also, in that old sig there were a lot more people to bow down to other than just bret hart.
Yes I know there were other people in the sig, but those did not pertain to this topic.

But I want to know why you have stopped bowing to him. It's ok to bow down to both of them. You wouldn't be doing anything wrong.
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Yes I know there were other people in the sig, but those did not pertain to this topic.

But I want to know why you have stopped bowing to him. It's ok to bow down to both of them. You wouldn't be doing anything wrong.
When it comes to this subject, Bret is and always was a whiny self-righteous cunt. I hate people who always have to be the victim, and despite what shit Kane Knight wants you to believe...BRET HART HAS DONE NOTHING BUT BITCH ABOUT MONTREAL.
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He might have tovo he might have...

But no seriously I am really interested in why the sudden turn on Bret. I mean I'm sure some people did follow you tovo, but still probably a good number made their own minds up and Steele would be one of them.

I'm sure you are right Tovo I guess it's becasue people precieve Bret as a whiny pussy even though I don't think he is, but whatever.
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When it comes to this subject, Bret is and always was a whiny self-righteous cunt. I hate people who always have to be the victim, and despite what shit Kane Knight wants you to believe...BRET HART HAS DONE NOTHING BUT BITCH ABOUT MONTREAL.
See but I think Bret is allowed to Bitch about Montreal and bitch about the WWE. However it's not Bret who keeps bringing it up in interviews and in storylines.

He doesn't really bitch about it anymore.

I think people hate in Bret Hart is misplaced. That's the way it is though.
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