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Old 04-12-2007, 12:09 AM   #41
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:12 AM   #42
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Donald Trump oversold the Stunner at WrestleMania. You know, he must have been out for over ten seconds. Way to make wrestling look bad, Trump
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:14 AM   #43
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:30 AM   #44
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:01 AM   #45
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:10 AM   #46
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LMAO HBK is such a dick. Hillarious though.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:36 AM   #47
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:37 AM   #48
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scott hall's sell is my favourite of all time.

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Old 04-12-2007, 03:33 AM   #49
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AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!!! HBK can definitely be a dick, but whe it's do a bigger dick, all I can do is laugh like hell. That's some hysterical overselling there.
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:40 AM   #50
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:49 AM   #51
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Funny but it also shows just how much of a childish little cunt Michaels really is. Anyone else probably would have got some form of punishment for doing that.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:45 AM   #52
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:00 AM   #53
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Funny but it also shows just how much of a childish little cunt Michaels really is. Anyone else probably would have got some form of punishment for doing that.
He was made to job to a talentless old man at the second biggest show of the year. Hogan has made an absolute joke out of himself; all Michaels did was provide a punchline we can actually LAUGH at.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:14 AM   #54
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Funny but it also shows just how much of a childish little cunt Michaels really is. Anyone else probably would have got some form of punishment for doing that.
Michaels said more with that performance than he ever could have with a mic.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:45 AM   #55
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:14 AM   #56
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LMFAO at 1:00 in Oversellous. That's the most ridiculous selling I've ever seen. The rest of the cartoon cartwheels were great, too.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:16 AM   #57
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Anyone got that full match? I want to see how bad it really was...
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:19 AM   #58
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He was made to job to a talentless old man at the second biggest show of the year.


And? Last i checked "doing the job" is part of the business. He could have declined to go into the angle with hogan, with the amount of times michaels has been clamped to vince's balls over the last lot of years i sure he coulda got out of it if he had wanted. But nope, instead of putting on a match he puts on a farce, who suffers? The people who paid to watch it, while Michaels ego gets another stroke.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:22 AM   #59
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That's exactly what a Hogan match always is anyway, a bunch of over-selling because Hogan can't do shit.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:26 AM   #60
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That's exactly what a Hogan match always is anyway, a bunch of over-selling because Hogan can't do shit.


Funny ive been watching wrestling for 20+ years and seen an assload of hogan matches and ive yet to see any with that amount of overselling.

Michaels = unprofessional little crybaby. He needs to stop throwing his fucking rattle out of his pram and grow a pair of balls instead of crying like a whore getting it up the ass from a donkey.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:27 AM   #61
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So what, you think it would have been BETTER if Michaels just laid there for ten minutes after every move?
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:34 AM   #62
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So what, you think it would have been BETTER if Michaels just laid there for ten minutes after every move?

Obviously not, but it would have been beter if he'd at least sold the moves realistically without the added dramatics of flipping for somthing as simple as a head being hit into a padded turnbuckle. Ive never seen anyone sell a boot by falling down getting back up twirling around again and falling down. And like i said anyone else would have received some form of punishment for it, so michaels can toss his rattle out of his pram and get away with it.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:35 AM   #63
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How do you know he wasn't told to sell like that?

Not saying he was, but that doesn't mean it's not possible that he was told to do it.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:38 AM   #64
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How do you know he wasn't told to sell like that?

Not saying he was, but that doesn't mean it's not possible that he was told to do it.

Its possible but to me it just smacked of his old attitude reaffirming itself (at least for that match).
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:47 AM   #65
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How anyone can not just laugh at that video of HBK/Hogan is beyond me. Why get so serious about it?
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How anyone can not just laugh at that video of HBK/Hogan is beyond me. Why get so serious about it?

I thought it was funny but at the same time when summerslam 05 was on i expected a match and not some bible bashing arsehole to just flop about a few times
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:00 PM   #69
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And? Last i checked "doing the job" is part of the business. He could have declined to go into the angle with hoganwith the amount of times michaels has been clamped to vince's balls over the last lot of years i sure he coulda got out of it if he had wanted.
Shawn put up a number of ideas that would all have had Hogan going over at SummerSlam. One including him beating Hogan in a completely dirty finish, with Hogan getting the revenge win at SS. What irritates me, and what irritated Michaels, was that the entire thing HAD to be done Hogan's way from the get-go, which oh just happened to be the way that made him look the best.

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with the amount of times michaels has been clamped to vince's balls over the last lot of years i sure he coulda got out of it if he had wanted.
Yeah, and if he'd have done that you'd just have more ammo to call him a crybaby.

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But nope, instead of putting on a match he puts on a farce, who suffers? The people who paid to watch it, while Michaels ego gets another stroke.
A) All of Hogan's matches since his loss to Lesnar back in '02 have been farces.
B) It seems to me that a lot of people enjoyed the match BECAUSE of Shawn's performance. His overselling isn't going to hurt marks, who are more likely to think "OMGLOOK HOW GR8 HOGAN STILL IZ!" and the overselling amuses a large part of the IWC.
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I thought it was funny but at the same time when summerslam 05 was on i expected a match and not some bible bashing arsehole to just flop about a few times
Well, when you're told to job to someone who doesn't work full time you would take the piss to.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:14 PM   #71
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Well, when you're told to job to someone who doesn't work full time you would take the piss to.

Considering:

a) the "sport" is a work. Wins and loses really mean dick in the grand scheme of things.

b) If my boss is telling me to do something i'll do it.

c) Win or lose either way im still being paid.


i doubt very much id be pissed.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:16 PM   #72
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Shawn put up a number of ideas that would all have had Hogan going over at SummerSlam. One including him beating Hogan in a completely dirty finish, with Hogan getting the revenge win at SS. What irritates me, and what irritated Michaels, was that the entire thing HAD to be done Hogan's way from the get-go, which oh just happened to be the way that made him look the best.


And because that info was apparently floating about online it MUST be correct like everything else on the internet? All we'll ever know is how the match that took place panned out, unless michaels talks about it in a shoot interview. And even then michaels is not exactly immune to talking complete bollocks even with his new found faith.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:21 PM   #74
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And because that info was apparently floating about online it MUST be correct like everything else on the internet? All we'll ever know is how the match that took place panned out, unless michaels talks about it in a shoot interview. And even then michaels is not exactly immune to talking complete bollocks even with his new found faith.
So all backstage information we recieve is a non-issue in these arguments unless we have personal confirmation from the people involved? That would eliminate most if not all of the discussions on the internet.
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So all backstage information we recieve is a non-issue in these arguments unless we have personal confirmation from the people involved? That would eliminate most if not all of the discussions on the internet.


Backstage info isn't always accurate. I just doubt the info would go into detail like how the matches would pan out and in what way they'd be won. If they did brock would not be pleased.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:31 PM   #76
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Considering:

a) the "sport" is a work. Wins and loses really mean dick in the grand scheme of things.

b) If my boss is telling me to do something i'll do it.

c) Win or lose either way im still being paid.


i doubt very much id be pissed.

Wins or losses don't mean dick in terms of a conventional sense like baseball or football, but they do mean something. If you lose every night you're Brooklyn Brawler. If you win every match you're Bill Goldberg. It has to do with kayfabe and fan perception, and your level of push. Which reflects how well you are able to get over and thus how you're paid. It's also a level of respect and value from the company.
If they didn't matter, nobody would care if Taker's win streak is snapped or no, nor would they be bitching their heads off when someone gets "jobbed out" on television, or the opposite when Triple H wins.
It matters in a way, not comparable to legitimate sporting events, but in a business and entertainment sense.

With that being said, HBK should have won the match. Hogan didn't need it and wasn't still on the roster and working future programs. HBK was a company guy for years and years despite what you say about his backstage antics, he was a company guy. Hogan gets his way despite being a cancer, a sneak and a lunatic and being gone all those years while Shawn was busting his ass to be the only draw and credible star on the goddamn roster. Not to mention it does nothing for Hogan's career or legacy, and Shawn has to go forward with his role as a top guy and instrument for putting young guys over effective the next night on Raw.

Wins matter.
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wasnt what i expected... I was hoping that shawn made the entire match like that... he wasnt too bad in overselling
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