The anti-Sting thread

[Dave Youell]

Sting was booked very well during the NWO days and was basically made out to be the only guy who could possibly beat them.

All that was done without Sting doing anything! It was the potential that he could do it that made him.

Someone of the coolest moments in WCW evolved around Sting, christ he single handled beat up every member of the NWO in the ring, at the same time.

Or that bit with all the Sting's in the ring, then the real one popped out the bat and went nuts

I was never a huge fan of his workrate to be honest, but the aura they created for him was immense, I can see why people linked him to Taker on a performer level as they both did the mind games thing, plus they were both long time performers for the companies they represented.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by FourFifty For some reason after reading that you strike me as the kind of person that kicks little kittens and eats aborted fetus soup.

I love kittens, I would never kick them. I would pet their furry little heads and feed them fish.

As for the aborted fetur soup...it is kinda hard to eat non-aborted fetus soup...I mean ewwwwwwwwww.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by loosecollector A body-builder with a great look went to wrestle with the right gimmick, at the right place and started at the right era. Kinda like the Warrior. Refusing to work for WWE can be good sometimes. See DDP, Raven,Tommy Dreamer etc.

Yeah, because they really had a ton of choice in the matter.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool I love kittens, I would never kick them. I would pet their furry little heads and feed them fish. As for the aborted fetur soup...it is kinda hard to eat non-aborted fetus soup...I mean ewwwwwwwwww.

I prefer to eat kittens and kick aborted-fetus soup.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by loosecollector A body-builder with a great look went to wrestle with the right gimmick, at the right place and started at the right era. Kinda like the Warrior. Refusing to work for WWE can be good sometimes. See DDP, Raven,Tommy Dreamer etc.

1) Sting and Warrior started together, so it is exactly like Warrior, no kinda about it.

2) Raven wasn't that misused in WWE.

3) I'm fairly sure Tommy Dreamer likes knowing his paychecks don't bounce and are actaully given to him on a regular basis.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool 2) Raven wasn't that misused in WWE.

Oh COME ON MAN, he wasn't given the exact same gimmick he had in ECW and WCW, he was CLEARLY misused.

(The preceding announcement has been paid for by the alliance of IWC smarks and does not reflect the opinions of Darth Tedious or Tedious Industries International, both of whom feel that Raven is a solid and reliable midcarder with no real value to a major main event scene.)

3) I'm fairly sure Tommy Dreamer likes knowing his paychecks don't bounce and are actaully given to him on a regular basis.

Nah, I think he was happier being a big man in a joke company and that things like being paid and eating food don't matter much to him.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by DarthTedious Oh COME ON MAN, he wasn't given the exact same gimmick he had in ECW and WCW, he was CLEARLY misused. (The preceding announcement has been paid for by the alliance of IWC smarks and does not reflect the opinions of Darth Tedious or Tedious Industries International, both of whom feel that Raven is a solid and reliable midcarder with no real value to a major main event scene.) KLYQ 4 LYFE

Honestly, that is one thing that really chaps my left testical. Why does everyone fault WWE for trying to expand characters? Also, Raven wasn't that different.

[Jeritron]

Originally Posted by Stickman I never EVER understood why people say Sting is the WCW Undertaker. They're nothing alike at all.

It's kinda the whole mysterious supernatural thing. Sting over the years has clearly been given that dark side supernatural stuff, from his original run as the silent crow figure, to his fueds with Vampiro and Abyss that dealt with graveyards and supernatural theatrics and shit.
There's clearly a link there.
I agree they're nothing alike in terms of specifics, or their look or wrestling. But the similarities are there, at least enough so to view Sting as WCW's version of an enigmatic force.

That's why, if Sting came or was still to come to WWE, Undertaker would likely be his first fued or his big payoff dream match/fued. People would eat it up, and to be quite honest they would compliment eachother quite well story-wise and in ring, not to mention the angle having the appeal to draw in massive money and have the legs to go a while.

As for Sting, as pertains to the discussion of him sucking or being overrated...I'm not gonna lie, I once hated Sting. Not even long ago. I thought he was a ripoff of the Crow and a tad on the stale side because of it, as well as being slightly above average in the ring.
I still maintain that this is true, he is certainly overrated but that's only because people rate him so high.
He's okay, I can get past the blatant ripoffs and enjoy his schtick for the most part. He's also okay on the mic and solid in ring work is better than most in ring work these days.

So, I suppose I like Sting, but he's certainly not nearly the deal he's made out to be. He has however had a long and good career.
I think a lot of his appeal still stems from the fact that he's never wrestled in WWE and it seems to be what everyone still wants and keeps hoping for. I'm sure it's the question he gets asked most often.
In fact, even when the guy was interviewed in my local paper for his participation in a local christian film festival, even the newspaper asked him if he'd ever work in WWE.

Pound for pound. Good wrestler, good enough gimmick, has certainly gotten past the test of time and gotten away with being an imitation. Credit for that. Overrated, but he's certainly had a good career.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool Honestly, that is one thing that really chaps my left testical. Why does everyone fault WWE for trying to expand characters? Also, Raven wasn't that different.

The whole Nest/Flock thing was one of the biggest smark-cocksucks on the planet. It was over with them, and they expected it to be over with everybody, and they wanted it to continue immediately. And when WWE decided not to rehash it for WWE after it had run its course in ECW and WCW, the people who would later get angry when they rehashed the nWo, DX, and the Horsemen got angry when they did NOT rehash the whole Raven = cult leader thing.

[Theo Dious]

Personally I'd have preferred it if they'd sat him down behind a mic and made him be Johnny Polo again.

Originally Posted by Dave Youell Someone of the coolest moments in WCW evolved around Sting, christ he single handled beat up every member of the NWO in the ring, at the same time.

His friend Warrior topped that by coming in the ring after a holy big anti-NWO-sleeping-smoke-effect and Hogan is the only guy who's unaffected because he's the one he's feuding with! AND..... That was his very own idea... Genious I tell ya!

[Jordan]

I used to stick up for Sting, but my brother asked me if he was any good today, and I told him the truth. I can't remember the last time he has had a good match. His persona is cool, his presence is that of a superstar main eventer, his in ring skills are mediocore and he can be carried to a great match as stated above, but he is certainly overrated. The reason he won't go to WWE? Because he isn't good enough to cut it with WWE's main eventers, or at least their idea of what a main eventer is.

Sting was a southern hero to kids, WCW's accedental answere to WWF's Hulk Hogan and not too much more.

[BigDaddyCool]

He looks all fat and flabby now.

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool He looks all fat and flabby now.

True.... and brittle too.