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Old 05-10-2007, 06:09 PM   #41
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Not defending Tito Ortiz, but I would guess that the reason he wouldn't be on the card is because they wouldn't make him the Main Event, which he thinks he has a right to. Which if it was going to be Ortiz/Evans that would definitly have to head a card with no titles on the line. That and this pretty much any event that doesn't have a title match in it is really a B show, and considering Tito Ortiz is one of the most marketable UFC guys he doesn't belong on the "b show."

But if people don't go because they're afarid, like I said before, they're insane.
But thats not the reason though. My post before was rash and blunt, and after reading it again it was stupid for me to come off that way.

However, I am saying in different words now, that I refuse to believe that multiple fighters did not want to go to Belfast because of the war. I down right refuse to believe that. Tito Ortiz, fine. I will believe that, because that dude has snubbed out anything he wants to for years now. He left UFC ages ago because of "contract Issue's" (aka, I am bitch and want more money) and constantly causes drama (the snub to Dana and the boxing match). Thats how that guy is. It would take some hard proof to change my mind about any other fighter.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:13 PM   #42
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No I am not trying to be the Brock Lesnar of MMA . I guess I just over-react to some post's I see because this is actually what I am trying to get into now. I have been training for 9 months at a gym in my town under Woody Fox. Its fucking really hard stuff. Especially when I first started, I was good and out of shape. I sat on my ass out of highschool, put on like 40 pounds, and got real lazy. I always watched UFC though, and had a bro that wrestled in high school, so I watched him do that and got into everything early. Just woke up one day and decided to give it a go. I didnt have really anything when I went into it, but I think I have actually started to come along well. My trainer is a Thai boxing coach, and a black belt in Bjj. Their is also an olympic qualified taekwondo instructor at the same place that teaches, so he comes and helps work kicks and standup with us. Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday for 3 hours a day. When/If I start competing that goes to 5 times a week. I havent had a fight yet, but 3 other guys in my class have had fights, so I have watched my fair share.

Moral of all this I guess is, as another competitor (cant say fighter...yet), its hard for me to believe that someone would let that get in the way of what they do. I have enough brains to know that everything would be well in order and safe.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:19 PM   #43
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Last comment. Card is starting to shape up well. I liked it before, but Okami and Franklin seem to be a better fight then Kampmann. I figure Franklin has his hands full with his switch of gameplans. I hope Forrest gets his win, another loss would not be good for him right now. Undercard seems solid enough.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:26 PM   #44
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However, I am saying in different words now, that I refuse to believe that multiple fighters did not want to go to Belfast because of the war. I down right refuse to believe that. Tito Ortiz, fine. I will believe that, because that dude has snubbed out anything he wants to for years now. He left UFC ages ago because of "contract Issue's" (aka, I am bitch and want more money) and constantly causes drama (the snub to Dana and the boxing match). Thats how that guy is. It would take some hard proof to change my mind about any other fighter.
He left because he wanted more money? Well he was the biggest draw in the company and they didn't wanna pay him his worth. He wasn't in the top 5 highest paid before he left. UFC was getting big, PPV's were growing, they were doing million dollar gates and they wouldn't pay the draws accordingly. He would have been insane not to leave. Oh and his contract had expired and this is all the point of negociations.

And he came back, and got more money and more exposure and is an even bigger draw now.

Anyone who wouldn't do this is an idiot.
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:09 AM   #45
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He left because he wanted more money? Well he was the biggest draw in the company and they didn't wanna pay him his worth. He wasn't in the top 5 highest paid before he left. UFC was getting big, PPV's were growing, they were doing million dollar gates and they wouldn't pay the draws accordingly. He would have been insane not to leave. Oh and his contract had expired and this is all the point of negociations.

And he came back, and got more money and more exposure and is an even bigger draw now.

Anyone who wouldn't do this is an idiot.
I didnt say he was an idiot. I said the guy is a giant vagina sandwich. My post was to explain that I could believe he did it, because he is a drama/media whore. Most of what you posted is true. He was top draw, probably deserved more money because of it. However, it doesnt change the fact that the guy is a pussy, and that he makes excuses for most of the shit that doesnt go his way to try and save face with people. He hasnt fought to "fight" in years. Always about money and fame with this guy. I see him doing the rest of his contract and then going into show business, because thats what he is all about, Drama.
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:07 PM   #46
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I can't imagine the idea of going to Belfast to fight would scare any of them off...They would probably fight in Detroit, Baltimore, or Washington DC, all of which I am sure are FAR more dangerous than Belfast.
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:34 PM   #47
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I can't imagine the idea of going to Belfast to fight would scare any of them off...They would probably fight in Detroit, Baltimore, or Washington DC, all of which I am sure are FAR more dangerous than Belfast.
Difference is they only know of Belfast from what they heard in news stories over a decade ago.
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Strong rumour now is that UFC signed Shogun Rua and he is debuting on this show.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:39 PM   #49
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Strong rumour now is that UFC signed Shogun Rua and he is debuting on this show.
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:48 PM   #50
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Someone who went to the show, tell up about it...

I saw Griffin and Franklin won..

Anything eles happen??
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:50 PM   #51
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The results make me want to download this. Seemed like a pretty good show minus the main event.
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Couldn't get tix
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That sucks. I really feel for you.
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Just watched it, was a decent card.
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This show was great and worth buying just for the Tyson vs. Clay fight alone.
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Couldn't get tix
Why? They were still available on Friday morning when I checked.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:29 PM   #57
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Was there and had a great time. Overall it wasn't the best UFC event i've seen, nowhere near some of them in truth, but the Griffin / Guida fight alone made the money i shelled out worth it. Those two fellas tore into eachother for the entire 15 minutes and if they, the UFC, are coming back our way they should bring them two back with them for the rematch!

Rob, read an interview with Shogun today and he pretty much confirmed he was supposed to fight on the card but things just didn't work out. Shame. Would have been great to see him in the flesh.
 
 
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